NES2 V - The Great Game.

[alex994]

We have received a petition from our Mongol and Korean protectorates that they should be named individually in the ridiculous threats of whoever this tiny terrorist group is, not merely lumped in 'other opponents'

And Dalnorossians in rightful Chinese lands will be all deported. Or face the ultimate penalty. While we're at it, the Koreans won't be that harmed while the Mongols will face the price of betraying China. The Annamese will also be spared because our group enjoys their cooking. This betrayal of China by the New Han Emperor shall be remembered!

 

[Thlayli]

Persia protests at the unilateral defining of Persia's borders without it's consent. Persia was not invited to be a signitory to this treaty, as you may recall. Also, Persia would remind Dalnorossia that Persia no longer views the FK as the legal possessor of Afghanistan, and cannot therefore comply with your request.

We fear that turning the area over to Dalnorossian peacekeepers would compromise our logistical and strategic position in the Indian theatre. We also firmly believe in the capability of the Afghans to maintain their own affairs. This is why we would campaign for the establishment of Afghanistan as an independent nation.

We do, however, invite your peacekeepers into what is a very peaceful land, on the condition that Persian troops be allowed to stay.

Also, we hope that this complication doesn't strain a productive relationship.

Sincerely,

The Islamic Council

 

[BananaLee]

The Glorious Chinese Revanche decrees that one day Siam, Dalnorossia and the Federated Kingdoms will weaken. When that day comes, the Chinese People will regain all their rightful lands and the enemies of China will pay dearly.

...
Annam was always Siam's.

 

[ThomAnder]

Well, the Balkan Pact members don't really make separate peaces. Look at Dalnorossia, they're being quite peaceful. We even have a NAP. Technically I'm only at war with the FK.

So, though in all honesty Persia may not attack Poland directly this year, it would be a shame if our Turkish, Croatian, and Romanian allies were to...cause more damage to your country.

But, we'll accept your original offer of 3 economy points, if you can give us 2 years to deliver it.

EDIT: Gah...MjM, Afghanistan doesn't even have any Sikhs in it!

a) Your allies will have a hard time directly attacking me too if Romania drops out
b) The more damage you cause me, the more i can demand for in reparation
c) I'm waiting for Warman's response anyway. If he says no to my treaty... then i'll have to see how it goes .

 

[Thlayli]

Warman's not going to betray the BP. Didn't he already say that? Forget it, I'll let him tell you himself. If he does want to make peace, he'll make it with the rest of the Pact. I hope.

 

[Disenfrancised]

Persia protests at the unilateral defining of Persia's borders without it's consent. Persia was not invited to be a signitory to this treaty, as you may recall.

beyond the borders of Persia as set out in the Treaty of Bandar-e' Abbas

This is the treaty signed at the end of the Turkmeni war - surely you remember that and have no squable with it? Unless you wish to claim lands in Federate India...

Also, Persia would remind Dalnorossia that Persia no longer views the FK as the legal possessor of Afghanistan, and cannot therefore comply with your request.

Ah, we see. We unfortunately disagree and will consider to consider the land Federate until the Federates notify us otherwise, or a popular rebellion occurs (in which case we would declare neutrality). Currently China and Persia are just more occuping powers in Afghanistan.

We fear that turning the area over to Dalnorossian peacekeepers would compromise our logistical and strategic position in the Indian theatre. We also firmly believe in the capability of the Afghans to maintain their own affairs. This is why we would campaign for the establishment of Afghanistan as an independent nation.

We understand how that would be unfortuate for you, but our position has been made clear. A free Afgahnistan would be recognised by us within the day, but as already stated that decision is up the legal occupiers when there is a popular rebellion.

We do, however, invite your peacekeepers into what is a very peaceful land, on the condition that Persian troops be allowed to stay.

Indeed it was peaceful before the war, perhaps the afghani's were content, if not exactly happy.

Also, we hope that this complication doesn't strain a productive relationship.

Of course, as do we, not the slightest foot of Persian lands will be touched by our actions in afghanistan.

 

[Thlayli]

First of all, Persia's borders have expanded since the end of the Great Central Asian War. In the Treaty of Athens, the former Ottoman Empire legally ceded Arabia and Iraq to Persia.

Second of all, we didn't say that we wanted to annex Afghanistan, just to maintain our presence there until an independent state can be formed at the end of the war. Your troops and observers are welcome, though.

Edit: Our intention is for all of the former territory of Federate India to be part of the new, independent nation of India. We will withdraw from India as well at the end of the war, and have no claims on it.

OOC: Everything west of the Indus (AKA former Kalat) was mine before the war, though.

 

[MjM]

Thylali, you should just log onto MSN whenever your on your comp...

Get on MsN!

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Turks

What did we ever do to you?

Turkish, Croatian, and Romanian allies were to...cause more damage to your country.

Dude! I'm like your fricken puppet! For last turn, you sent my orders! How can I get more blame here?

Although I'm fine with peace with Poland.

 

[alex994]

What did we ever do to you?

The Turks of Turkmenistan, we refuse to waste ink to add the extra men of Turkmen.

 

[Thlayli]

Oh, I wasn't blaming you. It was more of a threat/warning to Poland than a bad comment about my allies. Hey, I attacked Poland too, with the Turkish forces.

@Dalnorossia: Fine, fine. Rather than inciting a popular rebellion, we will establish a popular government. We will inquire as to the form of government the Afghans desire, and have the Afghans set it up themselves. It will be under a joint Persian and Dalnorossian protectorate, until the end of Persia's war with the FK.

As you said, you would recognize a free Afghani government. And in keeping with our tradition with Turkey and Georgia, we'll give them one.

 

[Disenfrancised]

Edit: Our intention is for all of the former territory of Federate India to be part of the new, independent nation of India. We will withdraw from India as well at the end of the war, and have no claims on it.

Your insistence for interfering these new 'states' suggests you are acting for your own gain, and your attacks on federate india, and the death of civilians is most troubling.

Let us just go over the course of events in the coming year; Persia shall leave Afghanistan. Dalnorossian Peackeepers shall enter. The precise charater of how these event occur is entirely within your power to influence.

Come on MSN if you want more clarification or we will just spam the thread more

 

[Lord_Iggy]

"The Chinese don't even care about the difference between Turks and Turkmen! Damn, I wish Edirne was still Turkish! Stupid Balkan Pact, I knew it would never stay intact! Damn Persians, why'd they betray us in the first place!?! Damn FK, they didn't send any help!!! The Ottomans could have saved the HRE if it hadn't been for the double betrayal! AAARRGH!!! And wasn't Edirne supposed to be part of Turkey?"

"Would you like another beer sir?"

"Sorry, religion forbids."

"Er, you've already had 5. Why do you think you just had that drunken rant."

"Really? I shouldn't have! I must have been drunk at the time!"

"Wouldn't that suggest more alcoholism sir? This doesn't sound very good."

"AAAAARRGH!!!"

Tasan Kemal jumped out of his bed.

"Damn."

He wandered off to fetch some water, then went back to sleep.

*****

Yes, I can only get away with that because it's a dream sequence.

 

[Thlayli]

Please read my post above. We'll allow the Afghanis to form whatever government they want...Republic, Monarchy, Shahdom, etc, and Persia and Dalnorossia will retain a nominal military presence in the nation.

We hope this is agreeable to you, because you said yourselves that you'd recognize a free Afghani government. Also, Afghanistan doesn't have to take any side in the current wars, unless it wishes. There's no benefit to Persia here, except our goodwill for fellow Muslims.

EDIT: Hmm, Edirne was supposed to be Turkish...that's weird. Das, can we edit the map next turn, and pretend that it always was?

 

[Disenfrancised]

From the Grand Rada of Dalnorossia
To The Tsar of Muscovy and the World

We were shocked to hear of the sudden and unprecidented violation of Dalnorossian Soverinty last year, thousands of Dalnorossian soldiers lost their lives. But what is far more important is the betrayel of trust this action entails; if this general was rogue indeed, which we have reason to be uncertain of, how can we trust any future Muscovite action or word. Thus effective imediately;

-The Borders between Dalnorossia and Muscovy are now closed.
-If We do not recieve a total of 5 million pounds worth of reparations within 4 months of this date our nations will be offically at war.

Incidently, Poland violated our lands the year before last (we forgot to call them out on it ) and in the interests of fairness we ask them also to pay 3 Million pounds worth of damage.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Wow, no comments on my painkiller-inspired story?

No, it wasn't actually painkiller-inspired. But it could pass as it.

 

[Thlayli]

I like Tasan. He's invited to a state dinner, as soon as we...actually have a palace to throw one in.

 

[Disenfrancised]

Wow, no comments on my painkiller-inspired story?

No, it wasn't actually painkiller-inspired. But it could pass as it.

I Laughed.

@Persia: The free and neutral afghanistan would not be displeasing to us...provided it had no Persian military presence. However in this matter we will refer to, and abide by the descisions of the FK. (Like I said MSN if you want to discuss stuff)

 

[Lord_Iggy]

You can come over to my place, although it's really just a nice house, not a palace. He meets with important representatives in the living room.

My palaces were, uh, DESTROYED WHEN YOU CONQUERED CONSTANTINOPLE!!!

Sorry, I like bringing that up occasionally.

 

[Thlayli]

Fine, it will have no Persian military presence, if it has no Dalnorossian military presence. My MSN is, again, broken for a while. *sigh*

Well you know...the Sublime Porte made a great whoooshing sound as we blew it up. Probably the sound of hundreds of years of priceless artifacts, all being destroyed in one fiery moment...

EDIT: Dis, how is silver even supposed to pay that much in one turn? We really don't want war between Muscovy (who's nominally our ally, despite our semi-peace with Poland) and you, but 5 million pounds is a little much for a border incursion. Maybe their fine could be lowered to Poland's amount?