silver 2039
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Ze Otters are a cowardly and vile subspecies that should be exterminated by the Ducks.
HA!
NES2 V - The Great Game.
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Ze Otters are a cowardly and vile subspecies that should be exterminated by the Ducks.
HA!
Harleqin
Hippo Power
Are you feeling completely well today silver? 
silver 2039
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No. I can't decide who to be in this NES now that those bastards killed Turkmenistan. So I've decided to harass everyone.
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
silver 2039 said:
Anyways story coming soon.
das
Regeneration In Process
Will edit accordingly.
Grandmaster
Deity
Basically. It should extend a little bit farther west along the Danube (so that the western border, which runs north-south with a slight northwesterly slant, touches the southern end of the Oder). I've made a map myself, but the upload function seems to not be working at the moment, and I have to go take an English exam, so if my somewhat confused description isn't making it clear for you, I'll try to post the map when I get home
KrimzonStriker
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Too many NES's currently, so I'll just pretend I never said I was going to join...
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
To: FK
From: Persia
By the terms of the Perso-Federate Naval Treaty signed in 1861, the FK will send one squadron of ships to the Persian Gulf, with the aim of training the Persian Navy. This is to be for the duration of 5 years.
As Persia will have an operating navy by Spring 1864, we would like to politely remind you of your obligations, and would, barring disaster, like to set up a rendezvous to begin training at this time. As such, training will continue until Spring 1869, barring war or other disaster.
Regards,
Abdul Qaddalik, Chief Minister of Naval Affairs
Signed by Shah Ardashir IV
From: Persia
By the terms of the Perso-Federate Naval Treaty signed in 1861, the FK will send one squadron of ships to the Persian Gulf, with the aim of training the Persian Navy. This is to be for the duration of 5 years.
As Persia will have an operating navy by Spring 1864, we would like to politely remind you of your obligations, and would, barring disaster, like to set up a rendezvous to begin training at this time. As such, training will continue until Spring 1869, barring war or other disaster.
Regards,
Abdul Qaddalik, Chief Minister of Naval Affairs
Signed by Shah Ardashir IV
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
please point me to this treaty so that I can review it
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Thlayli said:
Post 191, agreed to by NK shortly lower down the page. The port concerned, Bandar-e' Abbas, is that one near Shiraz. If you squint you can see that the color is part Persian and part Federate.
Your rent is due in 1868, as well.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
By all accounts, the war was over. Celebrations broke out, and people danced in the streets with sheer joy, overwhelmed with the fact that the Old Empire (as many Persians called the Safavid Dynasty) had been restored, and was victorious. Turkmenistan, that ancient and barbaric enemy, was forever humbled. And many of Persia’s former conquests whittled away in past centuries were finally hers again. As the column of troops returning from Samarkand reentered the capital, Persians everywhere laughed, filled with triumph from their hard won battles.
Slowly but steadily, the rejoicing spread throughout battered, scarred Shiraz. Tears of happiness were seen in the face of almost every man and woman. Old veterans cried. Merchants and midwives cried. Soldiers and bureaucrats alike cried. Even babies cried. It’s not like that didn’t happen anyway, though.
People knelt in the streets giving thanks to Allah, praising Him for granting glory and honor, and sending as great a man as Ardashir, Falcon of Persia, to lead them. The Gray Turbans unanimously declared the Shah’s Citadel to be a Shiite holy site, the ancient castle clearly having been strengthened by Mohammed himself to resist the Turkmeni army. As Persians slowly realized the magnitude of their success, the eyes of every citizen were wet with victory.
But where was Ardashir?
Certainly not in Council, the government was closed after the proclamation of the national holiday. And he wasn’t in the Royal Safavid Palace, either. The Shah had moved into his new residence as soon as the royal wing was finished. But the beautiful gold minarets atop the palace (which was nearing completion) lay dark, the windows unlit.
Where could Ardashir be? No one knew. There was speculation he had gone to France, to meet with the Emperor himself. But no, not a vessel had left Bandar-e’ Abbas, for the Islamic Council kept a strict watch on all exiting ships, hoping to catch Karamurad on the run. People wondered where their beloved Shah was, but the wisest among them looked to the northern roads, and smiled.
For Ardashir was riding to Teheran.
The Caspian Region was an unstable place, now. The beautiful, historic cities of Teheran and Isfahan had been sacked, and although many great landmarks were intact, the industry and buildings of the cities had been gutted, many ransacked by the Turkmenis in order to build a last-minute line of fortifications. Some released criminals and Karamurad loyalists were still at large, and General Malik was only now organizing the taskforce to sweep in and restore order.
But nonetheless, Ardashir was riding to Teheran. Three guards accompanied him, as well as Major Jeshua, promoted to a field command in light of his extreme courage and bravery serving Persia during the occupation. His cunning and usefulness in the occupied territories were of inestimable service to the Islamic Army of Persia.
At any rate, Ardashir and his four companions traveled along the “road,” ready to survey what lay before them. They all knew that Teheran was in bad shape, near destroyed, but…
They weren’t expecting to find a completely ruined city. Much, far too much of the once proud university town had been pounded into rubble by Turkmeni cannons. Certainly Karamurad had been defeated, but at what cost? Ardashir’s spirits sunk as he rode through the ruined gateway. The few people he saw were clad in rags, and over half of the town’s buildings had been burnt to the ground. The city once called “The Paris of the Middle East” was beautiful no longer. All five men steeled themselves for what they might encounter as they rode up Mohammed’s Way to Teheran University. What horrible sight would they behold as they approached the gates to the proud center of academia?
What they found was even more shocking than total devastation. The University was…totally intact! The Shah gasped, running his hands along the beautiful wrought-iron gate that was the main entrance to the compound. “How could this be…the city was destroyed! I thought that the Turkmenis would have burned this place to the ground. This is wonderful, what a gift from Allah is this!” Jeshua turned to Ardashir, smiling slightly.
“I had heard some unbelievable reports my lord, but thought them to be rumor. I decided not to inform you or Mustafa, lest it all be untrue, and the place a smoking ruin. It is certainly amazing…but it would seem that these rumors are true!” Ardashir fixed his aide with that intense gaze particular to him alone. “What did you hear, Jeshua?”
“You all knew that the Turkmenis had occupied the University as a regional headquarters, correct? Well…Karamurad gave a directive to all his senior commanders in the closing months of the war. As he withdrew from Persia, to fight the final battle at Samarkand, our spies intercepted this communication. It ordered a full withdrawal from Persia, and absolute destruction of all remaining cities and property.”
“Yes, the High Command was briefed on all that. But it still doesn’t explain how the University is still standing.”
“Right. The Turkmenis hurried to destroy as much of Teheran as they could in November, before they left. But at that moment, the Dalnorossians landed in support of the rebels in the Caspian area. Apparently a large contingent of students in hiding, along with some Dalnorossian Cossacks and irregulars, managed to storm the University in the last days before the final retreat.”
“But how could they? The Turkmenis are fanatical fighters, and well trained at that.”
“True, but they were in a great hurry to get back to their own lands, rapidly being overrun by the Chinese and Federates. And there were stranger reports yet. It would seem that the students assembled some strange device to repel the Turkmeni assault once they drove off the garrison. I was told that it was some kind of gun with a crank, and it spat out many bullets at a time. “Devilry,” I thought. But apparently it was true! How else could they have held this place?”
“This is truly a miracle, Jeshua. Let us give thanks for this victory. Our greatest center of learning has been saved, and all thanks to Persian patriotism and ingenuity.”
“Definitely, my liege.”
The proud soldiers and the astonished Shah then watched, as a column of young, gun-bearing students marched proudly toward the gate, the tattered, blue-gold flag of Persia fluttering before them.
Slowly but steadily, the rejoicing spread throughout battered, scarred Shiraz. Tears of happiness were seen in the face of almost every man and woman. Old veterans cried. Merchants and midwives cried. Soldiers and bureaucrats alike cried. Even babies cried. It’s not like that didn’t happen anyway, though.
People knelt in the streets giving thanks to Allah, praising Him for granting glory and honor, and sending as great a man as Ardashir, Falcon of Persia, to lead them. The Gray Turbans unanimously declared the Shah’s Citadel to be a Shiite holy site, the ancient castle clearly having been strengthened by Mohammed himself to resist the Turkmeni army. As Persians slowly realized the magnitude of their success, the eyes of every citizen were wet with victory.
But where was Ardashir?
Certainly not in Council, the government was closed after the proclamation of the national holiday. And he wasn’t in the Royal Safavid Palace, either. The Shah had moved into his new residence as soon as the royal wing was finished. But the beautiful gold minarets atop the palace (which was nearing completion) lay dark, the windows unlit.
Where could Ardashir be? No one knew. There was speculation he had gone to France, to meet with the Emperor himself. But no, not a vessel had left Bandar-e’ Abbas, for the Islamic Council kept a strict watch on all exiting ships, hoping to catch Karamurad on the run. People wondered where their beloved Shah was, but the wisest among them looked to the northern roads, and smiled.
For Ardashir was riding to Teheran.
The Caspian Region was an unstable place, now. The beautiful, historic cities of Teheran and Isfahan had been sacked, and although many great landmarks were intact, the industry and buildings of the cities had been gutted, many ransacked by the Turkmenis in order to build a last-minute line of fortifications. Some released criminals and Karamurad loyalists were still at large, and General Malik was only now organizing the taskforce to sweep in and restore order.
But nonetheless, Ardashir was riding to Teheran. Three guards accompanied him, as well as Major Jeshua, promoted to a field command in light of his extreme courage and bravery serving Persia during the occupation. His cunning and usefulness in the occupied territories were of inestimable service to the Islamic Army of Persia.
At any rate, Ardashir and his four companions traveled along the “road,” ready to survey what lay before them. They all knew that Teheran was in bad shape, near destroyed, but…
They weren’t expecting to find a completely ruined city. Much, far too much of the once proud university town had been pounded into rubble by Turkmeni cannons. Certainly Karamurad had been defeated, but at what cost? Ardashir’s spirits sunk as he rode through the ruined gateway. The few people he saw were clad in rags, and over half of the town’s buildings had been burnt to the ground. The city once called “The Paris of the Middle East” was beautiful no longer. All five men steeled themselves for what they might encounter as they rode up Mohammed’s Way to Teheran University. What horrible sight would they behold as they approached the gates to the proud center of academia?
What they found was even more shocking than total devastation. The University was…totally intact! The Shah gasped, running his hands along the beautiful wrought-iron gate that was the main entrance to the compound. “How could this be…the city was destroyed! I thought that the Turkmenis would have burned this place to the ground. This is wonderful, what a gift from Allah is this!” Jeshua turned to Ardashir, smiling slightly.
“I had heard some unbelievable reports my lord, but thought them to be rumor. I decided not to inform you or Mustafa, lest it all be untrue, and the place a smoking ruin. It is certainly amazing…but it would seem that these rumors are true!” Ardashir fixed his aide with that intense gaze particular to him alone. “What did you hear, Jeshua?”
“You all knew that the Turkmenis had occupied the University as a regional headquarters, correct? Well…Karamurad gave a directive to all his senior commanders in the closing months of the war. As he withdrew from Persia, to fight the final battle at Samarkand, our spies intercepted this communication. It ordered a full withdrawal from Persia, and absolute destruction of all remaining cities and property.”
“Yes, the High Command was briefed on all that. But it still doesn’t explain how the University is still standing.”
“Right. The Turkmenis hurried to destroy as much of Teheran as they could in November, before they left. But at that moment, the Dalnorossians landed in support of the rebels in the Caspian area. Apparently a large contingent of students in hiding, along with some Dalnorossian Cossacks and irregulars, managed to storm the University in the last days before the final retreat.”
“But how could they? The Turkmenis are fanatical fighters, and well trained at that.”
“True, but they were in a great hurry to get back to their own lands, rapidly being overrun by the Chinese and Federates. And there were stranger reports yet. It would seem that the students assembled some strange device to repel the Turkmeni assault once they drove off the garrison. I was told that it was some kind of gun with a crank, and it spat out many bullets at a time. “Devilry,” I thought. But apparently it was true! How else could they have held this place?”
“This is truly a miracle, Jeshua. Let us give thanks for this victory. Our greatest center of learning has been saved, and all thanks to Persian patriotism and ingenuity.”
“Definitely, my liege.”
The proud soldiers and the astonished Shah then watched, as a column of young, gun-bearing students marched proudly toward the gate, the tattered, blue-gold flag of Persia fluttering before them.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
Treaty Of Bandar-e' Abbas
1. The former nation of Turkmenistan will cease to exist.
2. The territory of the former nation of Turkmenistan will be divided as follows:
A. The new borders will be drawn and solidified along the lines of final occupation. The map is attached.
B. An autonomous region of Uzbekistan will be created within Dalnorossia's borders. The map is attached.
i) Any Uzbeks in Afghanistan or Persia shall be allowed to freely emigrate to the UDO's.
ii) Uzbeks shall have free access across the FK border to their important city of Bukhara which will remain under FK adminstration. Though their movements in other FK adminstered territories to the south shall of course be subject to normal FK laws.
C. Persia will transfer parts of the Kalat region to FK control.
3. Persia and the FK will sign an NAP for 5 years.
4. FK will invest 3 eco points into Persia's reconstruction.
5. All previous treaties, not in conflict with the current one, will remain in power.
Attachments
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Gatling guns Thlayli? Not with Early industrial age methinks its not the idea of multiple barrles that was original, it also required middle industrial age (OTL 1855+) materials technology and better cartridges...
Well i've read NESs with worse tech inflation
and at least your stories are nice.
IC
Regarding Turkmenistan
Dalnorossia relucatantly agrees to the FK border proposal with a number of caveats
1) the internal structuring of the Uzbek Dalnorossian Oblasts is not the business of the FK whose proposed map doesn't seem to corrispond to any past Uzbek, or indeed any boundaries.
2) Any Uzbeks in Afghanistan or Persia shall be allowed to freely emigrate to the UDO's.
3) Uzbeks shall have free access across the FK border to their important city of Bukhara (the one in what you refer to rather oddly as 'Greater Afghanistan') which will remain under FK adminstration. Though their movements in other FK adminstered territories to the south shall of course be subject to normal FK laws.
To Perisa
Now that we share a border, perhaps closer trade relations can be persued?
OCC:
So whats the verdict on those project length reductions/allowing to rush? (am working on my orders at the moment).
its not the idea of multiple barrles that was original, it also required middle industrial age (OTL 1855+) materials technology and better cartridges...Well i've read NESs with worse tech inflation
and at least your stories are nice.IC
Regarding Turkmenistan
Dalnorossia relucatantly agrees to the FK border proposal with a number of caveats
1) the internal structuring of the Uzbek Dalnorossian Oblasts is not the business of the FK whose proposed map doesn't seem to corrispond to any past Uzbek, or indeed any boundaries.
2) Any Uzbeks in Afghanistan or Persia shall be allowed to freely emigrate to the UDO's.
3) Uzbeks shall have free access across the FK border to their important city of Bukhara (the one in what you refer to rather oddly as 'Greater Afghanistan') which will remain under FK adminstration. Though their movements in other FK adminstered territories to the south shall of course be subject to normal FK laws.
To Perisa
Now that we share a border, perhaps closer trade relations can be persued?
OCC:
So whats the verdict on those project length reductions/allowing to rush? (am working on my orders at the moment).
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
The FK accepts points 2 and 3. The structure of the Uzbek autonomy, however, is very much a business of the FK, as the Uzbeks were instrumental in bringing down Turkmenistan and the FK will not betray valuable allies from the past by allowing Dalnorossia to do whatever it wishes with them.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
To: FK
From: Persia
We agree wholeheartedly. (While we would like that third city under our control, it's not worth any more squabbling. We would very much like that city under our control however. Perhaps the FK would be willing to concede it to Persia?) We sign the treaty of Bandar-e' Abbas in solidarity with our allies.
Regards,
Shah Ardashir IV
To: Dalnorossia
From: Persia
Certainly. Persia and Dalnorossia can both benefit from increased trade between our respective nations. (OOC: How would we go about making a trade route? Would it have any benefits?)
From: Persia
We agree wholeheartedly. (While we would like that third city under our control, it's not worth any more squabbling. We would very much like that city under our control however. Perhaps the FK would be willing to concede it to Persia?) We sign the treaty of Bandar-e' Abbas in solidarity with our allies.
Regards,
Shah Ardashir IV
To: Dalnorossia
From: Persia
Certainly. Persia and Dalnorossia can both benefit from increased trade between our respective nations. (OOC: How would we go about making a trade route? Would it have any benefits?)
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Well I don't think their would be any trade route per say, we would both probably just be able to use the reason of 'Increasing trade with X' for one 'grow economy' order.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
To the Mistrustful FK
If you must know, since the removal of a Bukhara centered region option by the FK, these are the planned borders of the three Oblasts of Khiva, West Bukharan and East Bukharan. Which in a deal agreed apon by the Uzbeks when we began supplying them for their rebellion two years ago, will be formed after 3 years of Dalnorossian military governership (to secure borders and subdue the Turkmeni, as well as training local defense militias). Then having the full rights of any Dalnorossian Oblast, selecting minsters to the Grand Rada and considerable internal autonomy.
If you must know, since the removal of a Bukhara centered region option by the FK, these are the planned borders of the three Oblasts of Khiva, West Bukharan and East Bukharan. Which in a deal agreed apon by the Uzbeks when we began supplying them for their rebellion two years ago, will be formed after 3 years of Dalnorossian military governership (to secure borders and subdue the Turkmeni, as well as training local defense militias). Then having the full rights of any Dalnorossian Oblast, selecting minsters to the Grand Rada and considerable internal autonomy.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
In that case the FK withdraws its objection
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Dalnorossia agrees to the Treaty Of Bandar-e' Abbas then, and hopes that peace will find its way to this land that has seen so little of it.
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