NES2 VI - Last Semblance of Order.

OOC: Cliche stories FTW!

Shadows from the flickering candlelight threw the whole pub into a dark, gloomy air. Murmured conversations were flittering through the air from people practiced in the art of talking so only the people who they intended to hear could hear; the clink of glasses covered the rest of it, along with the slosh of ale, the chugging of throats. It was a quiet place, all in all. That is, when there wasn’t a gunfight going on.

The Basque leaned in closer. “And so your suggestion is... To create a new nation, then? A new nation under governmental rule, in the American continent?”

Belízan eyed the Basque closely. “Yes. That is my plan. A vassal kingdom of Spain, or France, or Portugal–whoever would support our plan. We would rule in their name, on the northwest coast of the American continent. It is a rich land, I am told, fertile, green, and rugged.”

“Much like the lands of my home.” Juan Erostarbe closed his eyes, thinking. Diego sensed it would be better to wait for him to reply. A silence, an eternity. A commotion broke out in the other end of the bar, where two men were pummeling each other. The bartender moved to break up the fight, when a Moor stood, apparently angry that one of his servants had been attacked. A heated discussion flew, of which Belízan could only catch snatches of.

“I will follow you to this land, this Columbia. With luck, I can even convince my friends to come as well; us Basques have a certain talent for such things as shipbuilding and metalworking. And my friends work in the shipyards of Vizcaya. If they will follow us there, why, then your attempt will have a much greater chance of success. Perhaps the Spanish government will even be happier to give us the money and run, a few less Basques is a prospect they should welcome.” When Erostarbe smiled, God killed a kitten. But at least it was sincere. “Yes. I will follow you to this land. And perhaps we Basques can even build something of a new home for ourselves.”

“Indeed...” Belízan was happy that the Basque had agreed to come, of course. He was an experienced soldier, and had many a friend he could call on for his part; he would greatly aid Belízan’s expedition. And he was a fearsome warrior, never forget that... But his mind was focused on something else. The Moor was arguing with the bartender more and more furiously. Belízan noticed a sword at the belt of the Moor. Perhaps this man was a soldier, much like him.

“Erostarbe, look at that Moor. Does he have the look of a mercenary to you as well?”

The Basque turned, and took in the Moor. “I have heard tales of that one... An exiled prince from Morocco he is. Ten times more fierce than any other man I’ve heard of... and just as penniless. He’d be a good one for your expedition, I suppose, better than some others I can think of. But not a man you’d want to confront when he’s drunk, which I think he is...”

“Indeed. Have you any other suggestions for men to approach?”

“Me? No, I’m just a Basque, you know. We have few friends around.” He winked at Diego, who smiled a little.

“Then I shall take my leave for the nonce. I will contact you again when it is pertinent.”

“Farewell.”
 
From Ottoman Empire
To France
Osman IV expands his greetings to you and hopes you are well. The Ottoman Empire has long been feared by europe but now this must stop, as an opening of the new era of peace, the Osman IV proposes a Defensive Pact as well as open trade between our two nations.

ooc pwetty pwease? i got cookies :)
 
From Russia
To the Ottoman Empire

"Sir,

For centuries the Ottoman Empire has brutaly supressed local populations and has subjugated the Slavs and other Orthodox peoples in its Empire. This barbaric practice has always distanced the Ottoman Empire from the rest of Europe, and caused it to not be accepted as anything more than a meanace by the European powers. This also resulted in more than one war between Russia, and others, and the Ottoman Empire.

In the recent years the Ottoman Empire has rapdily modernized, and now claims to be an equal to other European powers, however it continues the same barbaric practices from centuries ago. If the Ottoman Empire turely wishes to be accepted as an equal by the Europeans it must, immediately, relinquish its control over the Orthodox lands and end its subjugation of whole populations.

Unless the Ottoman Empire realizes that it cannot be a modern nation and continue to occupy europeans, it will face, in the coming years, much difficulty. One way or the other, it will have to relinquish its rule over the Orthodox peoples, however, one way leads to acceptance and modernity, and the other path leads to disintegration and backwardness. It is up to the Ottomans to chose which they wish to follow."
 
From the Ottoman Empire
To Russia

Why must the Ottoman Empire be considered equal with European powers? are the Europeans not equal to us? And do the Europeans not commit genocide against the natives of the far away America's. One must first learn to judge one's self, before passing judgement upon another.

ooc im no historian ok, im only 16 and i haven't taken any history classes other than bloody american history (which is almost world history but not really) im stupid, ******** or w/e so explain to me this barbaric practice please, really, if it will help me better operate my nation then i want to know it (in other words no sarcasm involved)
 
OOC: First of all, Europeans did not committ genocide in America. Secondly, the Ottoman empire very actively persecuted Orthodox populations in the Balkhans and supressed, very violently, many revoluts. That is, for the most part, what I am referring to.
 
OOC: The Russian tsars generally felt that the Ottomans were oppressing the Orthodox Christian peoples of the Balkans, and the Christians in Armenia. Occasionally, massacres did occur against Christians, due to the relatively explosive nature of most Muslim-Christian relationships, though one could point out that the Russians were not the most humanitarian of peoples when they were attacking and destroying the Central Asian Khanates.
 
From Ottoman Empire
To France
Osman IV expands his greetings to you and hopes you are well. The Ottoman Empire has long been feared by europe but now this must stop, as an opening of the new era of peace, the Osman IV proposes a Defensive Pact as well as open trade between our two nations.

TO: His Imperial Majesty, Sultan Osman IV of the Turks
FROM: His Royal Highness, King Julien-François I of the French


The French Kingdom cannot at this time sign a defensive pact with the Ottoman Empire, due to the number of alliances we are currently in aswell as our own concerns abroad.
 
The Ottomans are somewhat opressive, for instance giving prefference to Muslims before Christians in law and stuff, but they only got really "atrocious" in the 19th century.
 
From Ottoman Empire
To His Royal Highness, King Julien-François I of the French

Very well, but perhaps further trade relations can be worked out, no restrictions on Ottoman trade and vice-versa. What say you
 
OOC: Don't you love it when the pot calls the kettle black? :)

IC:

To: Spain, France, Portugal, Russia, Papal States, Union of Krakow, Venice, Sweden, Denmark
From: Japan

Would it be possible for your nation to accomodate japanese students who wishes to study abroad? We have heard much about the lands known as Europe, but have never seen its splendor up close.
 
ThomAnder said:
IC:

To: Spain, France, Portugal, Russia
From: Japan

Would it be possible for your nation to accomodate japanese students who wishes to study abroad? We have heard much about the lands known as Europe, but have never seen its splendor up close.

To Spain, France, Portugal, Russia, Papal States, Union of Krakow, Denmark, Venice and Sweden
From China

*same as Japanese message above but for China*
 
France will accomodate both the Japanese and Chinese.

From Ottoman Empire
To His Royal Highness, King Julien-François I of the French

Very well, but perhaps further trade relations can be worked out, no restrictions on Ottoman trade and vice-versa. What say you

We agree with this and look forward to good relations with your Nation.
 
Kentharu said:
what about the Ottoman Empire :( half of it is in Europe :)

Considering that China's muslim subjects are the worst to handle, the Empire has no wish for the best and brightest of Chinese Students to be corrupted by Islamic Influence.
 
alex994 said:
Considering that China's muslim subjects are the worst to handle, the Empire has no wish for the best and brightest of Chinese Students to be corrupted by Islamic Influence.

Remember that what japan knows of the west is what the european nations have been telling us. I doubt they (europeans) consider you an equal. So basically like the european nations, Japan view Ottoman Empire as an evil, barbaric and oppresive empire and thus have no wish to send its students there.
 
Russia will accomodate Japanese students
 
ThomAnder said:
Remember that what japan knows of the west is what the european nations have been telling us. I doubt they (europeans) consider you an equal. So basically like the european nations, Japan view Ottoman Empire as an evil, barbaric and oppresive empire and thus have no wish to send its students there

Damn it, doesn't everyone just hate the Ottoman Empire? what luck :(
 
Stormbringer said:
Russia will accomodate Japanese students

OOC: So i suppose u won't accomodate Chinese students then? :p I understand :(
 
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