NES2 VIb - Return of the Chaos.

[Insane_Panda]

Oh, and the casualty rates. Economy dropped every now and then, but with the numbers of young men getting killed and/or maimed it looks like some of the warring nations should have had a very large war weariness (can be countered) and suffer a lot after the war due to lack of workers. But maybe that's just me

Did not half of my empire explode in rebellion? Furthermore, the regions of Europe under my control, combined, have a lot of manpower, and if you took time to notice in the orders thread, you will see that I did much to make things as they were.

I am noticing a disturbing trend - that of the defeated decrying the accomplishments of the victor to improve their own confidence. Do you simply think everyone folded over just because?

Signing peace with my enemies, with OUR enemies, without even informing me, is not "peaceful" development. It is an affront. Scandanavia had ambitions too large for itself and for that, it was destroyed. It is unfortunate, that throughout this NES, I had to destroy the hopes of many, and step over quite a few bodies to get the Empire where it was, but that is the nature of the game.

 

[Harleqin]

Yes, you had many rebellions and honestly more than I thought you should have. What is more surprising to me is that they were so weak. Either that or you committed a lot more forces to crush them than I expected. As I said, no slight on you.

The peace we signed came for two reasons. I got a good IC reason due to the anti-war demonstrations that were mounting, but as an OOC reason I simply failed to see any purpose in fighting Russia. I used the opportunity to hold elections and get a new leader to call for peace.

Also, the manpower as you say was huge due to the annexed areas. Of course, it makes it esaier to raise new forces, and it also presents an interesting dilemma. More conscription should raise unhappiness, but with more and more youngsters gone it would also decrease their chances for a successfully rebellion. I expect you didn't pit Spanish forces against the Spaniards?

I don't know really if the ambitions were so great. Basically I was happy with what I had. The only ambitious move was going into India at a time when it was collapsing. Opposite this I did try to set up new states in Africa rather than just annexing it

So, no slight intended on your victory. I'm just trying to explain the reasons this nes never took off for me and thus made my motivation drop for every update. Several ordersets were written in 10 minutes or so.

 

[Insane_Panda]

The peace we signed came for two reasons. I got a good IC reason due to the anti-war demonstrations that were mounting, but as an OOC reason I simply failed to see any purpose in fighting Russia. I used the opportunity to hold elections and get a new leader to call for peace.

And all the while you never sought to kindly inform your allies? What was shocking wasn't the Russian peace - I knew that was coming, but the English and Seguese ones. You explicitly told me that you would continue to participate in the war against Segu.

Yes, you had many rebellions and honestly more than I thought you should have. What is more surprising to me is that they were so weak. Either that or you committed a lot more forces to crush them than I expected. As I said, no slight on you.

If you will read the updates, practically all of my armed forces were used in destroying the WoTP rebels throughout my Empire, which resulted, among other things, in a Byzantine occupation of large parts of Europe before they were beaten back the next turn.

Also, the manpower as you say was huge due to the annexed areas. Of course, it makes it esaier to raise new forces, and it also presents an interesting dilemma. More conscription should raise unhappiness, but with more and more youngsters gone it would also decrease their chances for a successfully rebellion. I expect you didn't pit Spanish forces against the Spaniards?

Well, the thing is, I did not really conscript from Spain as much as say Germany and France, which are the industrial and population cores of my Empire. The Germans, due to never really being unified (except for that stint under the GGR) were rather apathetic towards my rule, and through propaganda and general unification measures, generally came to accept it and embrace it. Spain was rebellious, yes, but you also forget that in this modern age, it is not as difficult as it was for Napoleon to strike at these rebels - I did not have to contend with British armies, AND i had naval and aerial superiority.

Anyways, I can see how this IT wasn't fun for everyone as power accumulated in the hands of a few, but I am sick of some constantly complaining about it (not you, particularly, but other players which have lashed out at me)

 

[Harleqin]

True with Germany. The division there would make things much easier recruiting wise.

Actually, I never did sign any treaty with Segu. We consulted a bit on peace, but nothing was ever signed. I made an agreement with them about them pulling out to save their people from destruction, but didn't know if they would do it. After that I would have been able to put much more pressure on them and force them out. But no peace or ceasefire was ever signed or made official. I did not intend to just let them keep on fighting against you down there, but of course I can't prove it

A lot of forces were also committed against Egypt to stop them.

One last thing That move with Japan pulling out of the alliance simply to trick Russia.... very clever tactically, but not very ethical if you ask me

Modern age... yes, I keep forgetting the railroads and such. Bah, who needs such things Give me some knights, longbows and trebs and I'll have fun. Keep those new gadgets to yourself.

Anyway, very well played. I'd say that the two things that were most in your favor was tactics and ruthlessness in taking down your opponents, particularly in IT1

 

[Luckymoose]

I did not have to contend with British armies, AND i had naval and aerial superiority.

If i would have had the chance to make a land invasion. It wouldn't have been pretty for either side. But I never risked it due to your Air and Naval superiorty. If I had even a chance of an amphibious invasion I would have tried. But not Calais or Normandy.

I just didn't have the economy to raise a navy to fight you. Thanks to your bombings. Brilliant war though. Even though i lost I think it was fun.

 

[das]

Ireland was the nationalistic imperialist one

before it got all of that knocked out of its head by its utter and inglorious collapse. The Scotts felt that it was their turn now.

Glad to see that you enjoyed this NES so much; so did I. I often regretted being unable to play in it.