NESLife attempt #3

[Daftpanzer]

@Mauritania, im downloading your game as I type this!

Is there any reason to go to watertight eggs when shelled eggs are available? Or do I need to evolve one before I can evolve the other?

Ahh, I didn’t think this through. I guess shells are pretty much watertight by definition. I will change what it says on the first page and combine these two abilities into one.

I wonder what that may be?

That would be general problems that affect more than one player, like average prey being too fast to catch, or changes to the world climate etc.

I don't really think you should have a gene list to follow. Making a gene list was an idea, good for more information, but I don't think evolution ever had a book or anything. Everything could exist... From cells that makes light to moving plants (Urchins to be exact ) Thats of course just my humble opinion.

Well cant please everyone The idea is to stop arguments about what effects genes actually have in the game (complex stomach etc), so people aren’t unfairly treated in future, if they have different ideas to the way im treating things.

And the list is just to explain what’s already added. Theres nothing to stop people adding new things all the time like you said, and I’ll eventually write them up also. Im sure ive already said that. Ill edit the front page to make it more obvious.

Dafpt.. why are you on dialup anyway?

I live with my family right now and they dont want the hassle of installing cable/broadband. We already have digital TV via satelite. Im the only one who likes using computers for non-work stuff .

BTW, why'd you ask? Is this from another thread? I dont recall moaning about my connection in this thread yet .

Decloak: Psh, your creature isn't cool unless it produces a sonoluminescence effect as hot as the surface of the Sun.

Since there is also a biological rocket (it can send its seed pods 20 feet), how long till life takes to the stars!?! .

Thanks for the links, interesting stuff!

Liver- a large, oily, specialized organ that cleans toxins from the blood, allowing the Hunter to digest any poisonous creatures it may eat. The oily nature also makes it less dense than water adding to the Hunter's buoyancy, reducing it's overall energy expenditure on swimming.

I would generalise the 'liver' into 'poison resistance'. Which doesn’t mean you cant have a liver in your animal. It just that there are several ways of doing the same thing, and i dont want to be dealing with all the specific methods if the end results are the same.

 

[cvlowe]

I would generalise the 'liver' into 'poison resistance'. Which doesn’t mean you cant have a liver in your animal. It just that there are several ways of doing the same thing, and i dont want to be dealing with all the specific methods if the end results are the same.

OK I can deal with that, just saying that real life sharks livers serve two purposes.

 

[Daftpanzer]

@Mauritania, slight problem with your game!

I had a look at the graphics folder tho, i like the background pics for the various eras, where did you get them from?

 

[Splime]

@Mauritania, slight problem with your game!

I had a look at the graphics folder tho, i like the background pics for the various eras, where did you get them from?

I downloaded the game also, and got the same problem.

Looks cool though, from the graphics folder images I can see.

 

[cvlowe]

If you read "The inevitable readme.doc"

It says:

Download and install the RPG maker...

Waiting to see my hunter before I play

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Decloak: Psh, your creature isn't cool unless it produces a sonoluminescence effect as hot as the surface of the Sun.

As bright as the sun? Loud yes, but bright? I'm unfamiliar with the term 'sonoluminescence', though I can guess at its meaning (and it seems illogical).

Amusing!

There are several better ways to produce an explosive effect, plus what the hell point is a gun if your burrowing deep (as whats going to threaten the species in such a way that a gun will be helpful), and if you venture into the open ocean away from your 'mineral supplies' you'll be eaten by a predator that's fast/tough/big enough that your organism won't have the reflexs or speed to shoot).


Plus you don't need to go into the lithosphere to get those elements (where do you think saltpeter came from)

@Symphony: Since there is also a biological rocket (it can send its seed pods 20 feet), how long till life takes to the stars!?! .

Wait 'til someone develops a vacuum carapace. Won't happen, as it's not a competitive advantage. Space spores might develop as a fluke, however.

 

[Daftpanzer]

Wait 'til someone develops a vacuum carapace. Won't happen, as it's not a competitive advantage. Space spores might develop as a fluke, however.

I could add a Space zone to this game With a few more billion years of evolution who knows what might be possible?

If you read "The inevitable readme.doc"

It says:

Download and install the RPG maker...

Waiting to see my hunter before I play

Oh, thanks!

Now im a hypocrite for not reading instructions

File Size 29.60 MB

Time to moan about my connection

@Mauritania, it would probably take me at least 4 hours to download the RPG maker itself, im sorry but i dont usually have that kind of time window for getting online (especially if i want to get some sleep!).

Is there a way of 'compiling' it or something as a stand-alone program?

 

[Splime]

Mauritania: Is there any way the game could run without using the creating program? I downloaded it, but it's only a "free trial" for 30 days...

Game's pretty neat, though the plankton don't seem to give enough experience.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Extraterrestrial Life: Episode 104- Out of the Water on Delta Panzerus

On today's episode of Extraterrestrial Life, we will introduce you to a young, primitive world known to our astronomers as Delta Panzerus.

Over the last hundred million years or so, multicellular life has exploded into existence. From space, the world appears barren. Brown and grey continents devoid of life are separated by vast swathes of blue water. A sharp-eyed viewer can detect the faintest tinges of green plant life around the shores.

It is not this that shows that life exists, but the atmosphere of the planet. Analyses show it to have a high oxygen content, a must-have for most forms of carbon-based life. At the time of the planet's first discovery millions of years in the past, the atmosphere was a nitrogen/carbon dioxide/argon mix with only trace amounts of oxygen gas. Such a change in a world can be attributed to only one thing- life.

Sweeping down to the planet, there are vast lengths of coastline. And on them are the first steps of life onto land. On the rocky beaches are a variety of photosynthetic plants, ranging from primitive colonial algal slime to land-based lichens, from passive spiked Urchins to fully mobile Arthropodic creatures called Esturytes. Reclusive Tidalworms burrow through the sand and rock, emerging to the surface only at rare times.

It is rare to find an ecosystem in a time of transition such as this, making this a particularly special find for our explorers. Our adventure on the primeval world of Delta Panzerus begins in a single tidal pool.

*Cue Slimotron theme song, a soft, flowing synthesized piece with a quiet but energetic backing*

Here, a small cluster of Slimotron spores float on the surface. This greenish algal blob doesn’t look like much, but it is a wildly successful marvel of evolution. For it has one trick that none of its competition can match. As the tides go out, it can survive while other algae shrivels away. This is actually done in a very simple way. At the cellular level, when a lack of water is detected by the cells, a chemical trigger is released, causing all of the cells experiencing a shortage to extrude a gluelike substance. It quickly hardens into a see-through wall, allowing the Slimeotron to last for great amounts of time without water, depending on the size of the specimen.

This species generally exists peacefully, but no easy lifestyle comes free of charge in a competitive world.

*Cue Esturyte Theme song, a jittery, simple melody on light wooden percussion*

These crawling creatures are Esturytes. They are the jack-of-all-trades on the Panzerian coasts, eating everything from the numerous dead animals that wash up on the coastline- to the nearly defenseless Slimeotrons. Here we have a single Esturyte picking the soft algae out of the mud. But rather than eating it on the spot, it is carrying its find away. In a damp depression high on the beach, it meets up with nearly a dozen other Esturytes. It places the Slimeotron down in the middle of the ‘den’, and the others take over.

These small creatures have a firm social system. The oldest and strongest specimens get to eat first, then feed the young. Generally, adolescent Esturytes are the last to eat. This seemingly innocuous trait has a major impact on the social system of these family groups. Those adolescents who grow hungry may challenge their elders, in order to get at the food before most of it is finished. The confrontation takes the place of a wrestling match, where the two competitors place their hard back carapaces together and push with all of their strength. The weaker competitor may be pushed away from the food, knocked over, or even physically shoved down into the mud. However, when the Esturyte family group’s population reaches a critical mass the adolescents’ behaviour changes. A higher concentration of pheromones generated by the higher density and proximity of animals causes the adolescents to, instead of fighting for rank, simply leave their family. They never leave in a group smaller than two, and have never before been seen leaving in a group larger than six.

The sharp-eyed little Esturyte who found the Slimeotron blob is low on the pecking order, and has had enough. Along with two other young Esturytes, it has set out from its communal home to possibly found a new nest- or die trying…

To be continued…

 

[Symphony D.]

As bright as the sun? Loud yes, but bright? I'm unfamiliar with the term 'sonoluminescence', though I can guess at its meaning (and it seems illogical).

Decloak: Given I linked to a Wikipedia article, you could have just clicked the hyperlink you know.

Wait 'til someone develops a vacuum carapace. Won't happen, as it's not a competitive advantage. Space spores might develop as a fluke, however.

Cockroaches can apparently survive two hours in hard vacuum. Given space suits are just made of fabric layers it wouldn't be a very tough problem for anything that has a carapace at all, doesn't need to metabolize oxygen to survive, and can concentrate heavy metals into its carapace to minimize radiation exposure (scorpions already do this for their stingers, and much like cockroaches are capable of surviving ground-zero nuclear blasts or being frozen in a block of ice and thawed out with a blowtorch). The only real impediment to spaceborne life that some solution or another isn't around for is gaining the delta-V to get off-planet.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Cool.

Like my documentary?

 

[cvlowe]

I want those explorers in the water. My Hunters need food

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Presumably, these filmmakers would not be numerous to be a useful food source.

 

[cvlowe]

What they lack in number will be made up in size!

 

[Disenfrancised]

Decloak: Given I linked to a Wikipedia article, you could have just clicked the hyperlink you know.


Cockroaches can apparently survive two hours in hard vacuum. Given space suits are just made of fabric layers it wouldn't be a very tough problem for anything that has a carapace at all, doesn't need to metabolize oxygen to survive, and can concentrate heavy metals into its carapace to minimize radiation exposure (scorpions already do this for their stingers, and much like cockroaches are capable of surviving ground-zero nuclear blasts or being frozen in a block of ice and thawed out with a blowtorch). The only real impediment to spaceborne life that some solution or another isn't around for is gaining the delta-V to get off-planet.

Pah, cockroaches are flipping wimps, water bears are where its at. .

Range: Scientists have reported their existence in hot springs, on top of the Himalaya, under layers of solid ice and in ocean sediments.
Temperature: a few minutes to 151°C or being chilled for days at -200°C, or for a few minutes at -272°C.
Radiation: 570,000 rads of x-ray radiation. (500 times more than a human can and 10 times more than a cockroach)
Pressure: From 6000 atmospheres (6 times the deepest trench) to vacuum, both indefinately.
Dehydration: When a piece of moss that had been kept dry for 120 years was moistened, the Tardigarda in it were revived. Their water content can drop to 1% of normal.

And the most interesting thing IMHO is that they are small enough to be blasted into space by a volcanic explosion of suffient size...

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Good ol' Tardigrades.

 

[Mauritania]

Range: Scientists have reported their existence in hot springs, on top of the Himalaya, under layers of solid ice and in ocean sediments.
Temperature: a few minutes to 151°C or being chilled for days at -200°C, or for a few minutes at -272°C.
Radiation: 570,000 rads of x-ray radiation. (500 times more than a human can and 10 times more than a cockroach)
Pressure: From 6000 atmospheres (6 times the deepest trench) to vacuum, both indefinately.
Dehydration: When a piece of moss that had been kept dry for 120 years was moistened, the Tardigarda in it were revived. Their water content can drop to 1% of normal. And the most interesting thing IMHO is that they are small enough to be blasted into space by a volcanic explosion of suffient size...

Thanks for the new idea, the Nitros genus already has three out of those six attributes.

Regards the RPG

Is there a way of 'compiling' it or something as a stand-alone program?

I'll see what I can do. I think there is a RGSS package which does that.

I had a look at the graphics folder tho, i like the background pics for the various eras, where did you get them from?

Internet sites such as this: http://www.geology.wisc.edu/~g109/Additional/evolution_of_life.htm . To be honest I just put in the names of the era into a search engine like this: http://uk.altavista.com/image/resul...k=photo&mik=graphic&mip=all&mis=all&miwxh=all

Mauritania: Is there any way the game could run without using the creating program? I downloaded it, but it's only a "free trial" for 30 days...

Yes, but I absolutely should condone downloading the RPGXP bittorrent file, using the keygen and then read the text file for the activation url.

Game's pretty neat, though the plankton don't seem to give enough experience.

Thank you for your imput, it will be one of the many changes I'll make for the next installment. Although Blue Whales have to eat three tonnes each day to grow, so...

Regarding the documentry

It's a good thing Nigel Marvin was'nt narrating or all the creatures including the plants would be trying to attack him.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Very true. I considered having an alien incarnation of Steve Irwin doing it, but decided against it.

 

[cvlowe]

Why not? Nobody's evolved a stingray yet!

I shouldn't have said that. Lord, I apologize and please be with the starving pygmies down in New Guinea. Amen.

 

[Mauritania]

Pfft...Steve Irwin is old hat. Nigel Marvin has been knocked overboard by a CGI Megalodon, although he was poking it with a harpoon.