Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

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I should probably clarify that the slash marks between entries are a substitute for the word "or." No one's suggesting blobbing any of the entries below.

Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Berbers/Tuareg 7-3=4 Not long to go for these folks.
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 17
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 17+1=18 Vercingetorix has waited a long time to be featured in a Civ game... Now's his chance, now that Julius Caesar and his kin are out of sight.
Georgians 23
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 29
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 16
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Berbers/Tuareg 4
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 14 (17-3) While Bulgaria has a very interesting history (and pre-history) I don't think this would fit too well. If they want to add a civ from that region (=south east Europe), I'd prefer Hungary.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 18
Georgians 24 (23+1) Georgia or Armenia, I'd like a civ from the Caucasus.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 29
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 16
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Berbers/Tuareg (4+1)=5 One vote for this Civ. Historically, the Berbers ended up assimilating to Arabic culture, with many abandoning their native languages. I still find them interesting though (look up Garamantes, Numidia, Dihya, etc).
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 14
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 18
Georgians 24
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 29
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia (16-3)=13 Once again, I dislike including Civs based on one notable leader. Timur sounds like a second-rate Genghis Khan...
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Berbers/Tuareg 5
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 14+1=15
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 18
Georgians 24
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 29-3=26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 13

I'll try and be more clear and specific: I just don't find the Pacific North West a particularly interesting region when it comes to Native Americans. The artwork is interesting but not really my style at all, their culture has survived better than many other native groups but isn't influential enough to be recognized much outside of the immediate areas they occupied, and frankly I don't find them historically interesting. They just seemed to stand in their corner of the map passively doing their own thing. They met with Spanish, Russian, French, Canadian, and Finally American explorers and had trade routes stretching as far south as Arizona yet they didn't really have any real impact on those people politically, culturally, militarily, scientifically, or socially and just kept on keeping on with one another in their own little bubble of culture and heritage which is not really what I look for in a Civilization. Yes, it was a very nice bubble, but I prefer my civilizations to have strong interaction with other culturally distinct peoples that left a lasting impression on them as that is what I define as "Standing the Test of Time" which I feel is lacking in the Pacific Northwest.

Those complaints I had about the PNW are inverted in the Balkans. They had absolutely constant interaction with everyone around them as each and every major empire in the area tried to beat them into submission and assimilate them. From both the East and West Romans, to the Greeks, to the Teutonics, to the Austrians, to the Russians, to the Ottomans, every empire seemed to stomp over the Balkans and ripped each other to pieces over the region yet they remain both culturally distinct from the foreign interlopers and culturally distinct from each other (to the point where attempts to unify the area have all resulted in catastrophic failure). Economically and spiritually the region is also a major center of world history as for centuries it was made the frontlines of dozens of religious wars which drew in and threw out countless ducats for arms, armor, mercenaries, building materials, and more. My personal favorite is very easily Romania and I'm mostly voting on their behalf, but I could go with Bulgaria, Serbia, or some other Balkan nation. Not in the immediate future mind you as Macedon has crowded the area for the current roster but in the protracted future I'd love to see one... preferably Romania.
 
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Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Berbers/Tuareg 5-3=2 - Nope. Mali, Songhai, Morocco, Ashanti, Benin, Ethiopia... Lots of more interresting nations to add than this.
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 15+1=16 - See the post above. But I would like Bulgaria or Serbia more.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 18
Georgians 24
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 13
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Berbers/Tuareg 2 - 3 = -1 Eliminated. It's just not interesting since we already have many better options of civs in Africa.
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 16
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 18
Georgians 24
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 22 + 1 = 23 Culturally unique in world, and compete power with Australia on the TLS map.
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 13
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 16
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 18+1=19 There's 2 Hellenic language speaking civs in game, 4 Romance speaking, 2 Slavic speaking, and a whopping 5 Germanic language speaking civs in game... but no Celtic speaking civs as yet.
Georgians 24
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 13-3=10 Sorry Tamerlane.
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 13 (16 - 3) The Balkan 'civilizations' are only interesting because the Balkans were on the way to somewhere else, so they got trampled by everybody going somewhere else. Same with Palestine area, and you might note the lack of Palestine area Civs on this list. Living on a historical freeway is not my criteria for an interesting civ...
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 20 (19 + 1) - BUT only for a specific 'Gallic' civ wth two alternative leaders: Diviciacus and Dumnorix.
Georgians 24
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 10
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 28+1=29
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 24-3=21
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 18
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 10

While my contributions to Nigeria's illustrious history will doubtless be scrubbed or labelled as a mere "meme" I would love for my homeland to see some representation as it is currently one of the only African nations that isn't crumbling apart at the seams. It's rich, it's from a part of Africa that isn't explored yet, it's got lots of history and trade, it's just an all around solid pick. Nigeria leaning Benin for me, though Dahomey leaning wouldn't be bad either.

As for the Georgians I was actually going to downvote the Britons but unfortunately I couldn't do that since at the current time it would look like a spite move rather than my actual opinion. And since I don't want to downvote the PNW a third time in a row Georgia eats the boot by default. I don't find it as interesting or compelling as others on this list and I don't see it bringing anything new to the table.
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30 (29+1) There will never be enough Africa for me in civ.
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 21
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15 (18-3) Getting harder to choose, but I'd prefer different civs from that region, like the Ghaznavids.
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 10
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 13 + 1 = 14 Both Bulgaria and Romania would be welcome inclusions for me. But I would choose Bulgaria for its history of rivalry with the Byzantine Empire.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 21
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 24
Timurids/Other Central Asia 10 - 3 = 7 I'm just not particularly interested in this.
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 14
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 20+1=21 - The best way to present Celts.
Georgians 21
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 24-3=21 - Uninterresting and unimportant. Why to add them?
Timurids/Other Central Asia 7
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 14
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 21+1=22 Can't lose out on the opportunity to actually depict this civ properly.
Georgians 21
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 7-3=4 Because as far as I can tell, unlike the Total War series would have us believe, they did not actually employ cannon elephants. :p
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 11 (14 - 3) -- It's not that the cultures are uninteresting--it's that the region is more than adequately represented, especially after Byzantium's inevitable addition. And let's be honest: Byzantium was just slightly more important in the scheme of things than Romania or Bulgaria. ;)
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 22 (21 + 1) -- The Caucasus is extremely overdue for representation, and while as a civilization I might prefer Armenia, I think Georgia has the better leader choice in Tamar and is an opportunity to include a language family that hasn't been heard in Civ before: Kartvellian.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 4
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans (11+1)=12 I find their history interesting, particularly Bulgaria, Romania, and Serbia. South Slavic peoples haven't been represented in a Civ game so far. Macedon being in the game doesn't really put me off from voting for them. Plus Preslav is a CS...
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia (4-3)=1 The Timurids don't interest me as much as the other Civs left. And I'm not sure the Kazakhs should be an official Civ in the game. Uyghurs would be off limits because of China. Gokturks might be too obscure for Firaxis. Central Asia was often ruled by other powers, mainly Persian dynasties, Mongols, and Russia, so it's hard to find a distinguishing Civilization for them. Plus Firaxis added Scythia.
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 12
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 22-3=19
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 21+1=22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 1

To quote the second best Monty Python film in existence, "Who are the Britons?" I don't see any particular reason to separate the Britons from Britain. Yes you could make the argument that modern Britain is more Norman than Briton ever since William the Conqueror did himself a conquering but frankly once you start splitting those hairs then we're left with the Britons who are now the Welsh which... to say the least they aren't a particularly impressive and are only popular because the Romans romanticized their wars with the "raging barbarians of Britannia". We might as well bring back the Huns and I really don't feel like doing that.

As for Nepal we have: the birthplace of Buddhism (or, at the very least, the person the entire religion is based around), made the incredibly racist imperialist English of the 19th century unreservedly acknowledge their skill and bravery in battle (not that Zulu "They fought well for a bunch of savages but we came back and showed them what for!" but a very genuine "These guys are tough as steel and their commanders know how to organize a proper European war. Let's hire them as mercenaries!"), kept their empire and culture distinct even with two of the biggest players in all civilization at their borders, and generally they're just a really interesting place with a lot of backstory behind it. Plus if we take it as a given that the Inca will be included this would be a great counterpoint with Inca being the offensive economic mountaineers and Nepal being the defensive religious/cultural mountain dwellers.
 
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Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 12
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 16 (19 - 3) Lots of overlap with Civ IV and Vs Celtic civs. It's not a bad idea to add more "minor" European civs in addition to the vanilla regulars, but it shouldn't always be the same ones.
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 27 (26 + 1) A native American civ distinctly different from any past representation in the civ franchise.
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 21+1=22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 1
 
To quote the second best Monty Python film in existence, "Who are the Britons?" I don't see any particular reason to separate the Britons from Britain. Yes you could make the argument that modern Britain is more Norman than Briton ever since William the Conqueror did himself a conquering but frankly once you start splitting those hairs then we're left with the Britons who are now the Welsh which... to say the least they aren't a particularly impressive and are only popular because the Romans romanticized their wars with the "raging barbarians of Britannia". We might as well bring back the Huns and I really don't feel like doing that.
I don't disagree with you that there is exactly no reason for a Briton civ, but I do have to correct you on one point: the Anglo-Saxons had driven the Britons out of England long, long, long before the Normans got there. And by the time Anglo-Saxons got to the Isles, the Britons were just Romans with Celtic names anyway.
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 30 + 1 = 31 The best civ option on this list, in my opinion.
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 12
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 16
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 27
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 21+1=22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 1 - 3 = -2. Eliminated. Again, I'm not particularly interested in this.
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 31
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 12
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 24
Gauls/Britons 16+1=17 If the options are no Celtic civ, a poorly done Celtic civ, or a properly done Celtic civ, I know which one I'm going to choose every time.
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 27
Irish/Scottish 20
Kushans/Bactrians 15
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 21-3=18 Nepal is fairly small. We honestly need Tibet. We deserve Tibet. Paradox announced that the next XP for CK2 would add and focus on Tibet. They clearly aren't worried about it. 2K shouldn't be either.
 
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