Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

Status
Not open for further replies.
Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA (22+1)=23 My Southeast book is the thickest out of all the Smithsonian Handbooks of North American Indians, and for good reason. They have a rich history (at least archeologically wise). Also very diverse in languages. Though Mississippian era leaders are lacking, Firaxis can still use leaders from the colonial era. Definitely should be in the game over groups like the Shoshone and Sioux.
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 8
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars (19-3)=16 I don't find them appealing other than their conversion to Judaism, Khazar language is poorly attested, and I don't want broken Chuvash again
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10-3=7 - Why to add them if we already have Brazil?
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22+1=23 - If there is some unrepresented region of Europe, it's Balkan. It should have at least one Civ other than Greece (not counting Macedon and Byzantium). I would suggest Serbia or Bulgaria.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Shoshone and Sioux.
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 8
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 16
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 7-3=4 Not a fan of most post-colonial civs.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 23
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 20+1=21 Vercingétorix avec une moustache gallois!
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 8
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 16
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 4
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 23 + 1 = 24 They being historic adversaries of the Byzantines, they interest me greatly.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 8 - 3 = 5 I explained in my previous posts, but again: it lasted a short time, and if we are going to have another modern South American nation it must to be Argentina.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 16
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 4
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 5
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 16
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 21 (24-3) not my cup of tea.
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22 (21+1) my cup of tea.
 
Argentines 4
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 2 (5 - 3) -- Ideally there will be no more post-colonial nations, but I'll take Argentina over Gran Colombia.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 27 (26 + 1) -- How dare Benin sneak up on the lead.

Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 16
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Argentines 5 (4 + 1) I'm not entirely sold on post colonial civs, but given that the ship has long sailed on that point, it's odd not to have any former Spanish colonies.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 2
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 27
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 13 (16 - 3) This would overlap pretty heavily with Scythia.
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Argentines 5
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 2
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28 (27+1) - The most heavily-populated Hunter-Gatherer Cultures in the World, with sophisticated coastal, sea and river fishing technologies, unique cultural/technical attributes (Spirit Poles, Sea-Going Dug Out Canoes, Potlach) and long, long overdue for representation in a Civ game.
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10 (13 - 3) - All the central Asian nomad 'civs' are pretty similar. Unless you can come up with something more distinctive than their religion, there's no sense cloning the Scythians repeatedly.
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Argentines (5+1)=6 If there needs to be a second Spanish speaking country, it should be Argentina. Plus I don't think Firaxis would ever put any of the Amerindian peoples in Argentina in the game, many of whom their languages are poorly attested...
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 2
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians (9-3)=6 Hittites is enough to represent the Anatolians, Lydian language is poorly attested, and Pontic leader would speak Greek
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Argentines 6
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 2
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 3 (6-3) (basically the same reason as poster above)
Maori/Other Polynesians 22 (21+1) (After visiting New Zealand and some Maori people there I always found them fascinating)
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Argentines 6 + 1 = 7 Argentina has historically disputed South America's leadership with Brazil, it has been involved in international war conflicts and it is more culturally unique than countries like Canada and Australia. I am very sure that Argentina will not stay long on the list, but I can not fail to give an up vote to demonstrate how much I would like to see them in the game.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 2 - 3 = -1 Eliminated. A cool leader does not make a civ, perhaps the place of Gran Colombia is in a scenario and not in the normal game. I might think otherwise if Gran Colombia had lasted for at least a century, but to include a nation of 10 years is too odd to me.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 3
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Last edited:
Argentines 7
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 21+1=22 Arverni please!
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 3-3=0 Dead and buried.
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Argentines 4 (7 - 3) -- If we must have another post-colonial nation they're not a bad choice, but must we?
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 23 (22 + 1) -- Tamar hasn't gotten a vote in a while. One does not wish to displease Tamar.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Argentines 4-3=1 - We don't need them with Brazil. At least not now.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 22+1=23 - I won't have problem with Celts, but only as some concrete tribe. And in my opinion, Gauls are the best choice.
Georgians 23
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 22
 
Last edited:
How much of the Gaulish language has been attested? It would be strange Firaxis to use a language like Breton instead...

Argentines 1
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 23
Georgians 23
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 10
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Maori/Other Polynesians (22+1)=23 Maori or Hawaii instead of a Pan-Polynesian Civ would be nice, plus my definition of "Civilization" isn't so strict, as long as a culture is interesting and distinct enough from others, they can be in the game
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia (22-3)=19 Not too fond of Timur as leader. As for the other Central Asian civs, only Sogdia, Tocharians, and Uyghurs really grab my interest. And I doubt Firaxis will make any of them a Civ. :cry:
 
@Guandao Gaulish is not so well attested as one might wish, but in terms of grammar and vocabulary it's certainly well enough attested to write some dialogue in--all the better as a significant portion of the extant corpus is in the form of infixios and curses, perfect for when our Gaulish leader wants to denounce or declare war on you. :p It won't be nearly so difficult as the Middle Egyptian they strangely chose to write Cleopatra's dialogue in, though the fact that they couldn't be bothered with Sumerian for Gilgamesh is worrisome to say the least...Honestly, Breton would be a very strange choice, even stranger than Welsh: it might be spoken on the Continent, but it immigrated there from southeastern Britain in the Middle Ages. Some linguistic theories posit that Brythonic and Gaulish were a dialect continuum (in which case Welsh et al are sort of modern descendants of Gaulish), but those theories are by no means mainstream. Indeed, as time goes on the relationship between Insular and Continental Celtic seems to be coming under increasing scrutiny.
 
Argentines 1
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 23
Georgians 23
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 7 (10-3) reasons given before
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 23 (22+1) reasons given before
Timurids/Other Central Asia 19
 
Argentines 1-3=-2 Out of the band.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 23+1=24 More mustaches!
Georgians 23
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 7
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 23
Timurids/Other Central Asia 19
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26 + 1 = 27 As I explained before, an African empire worthy to be in the game.
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 24
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 24
Georgians 23
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 28
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 7 - 3 = 4 I do not think it's necessary
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 23
Timurids/Other Central Asia 19
 
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 27
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21 (24 - 3) -- I think Bulgaria/Romania/Dalmatia could be interesting, but I think that region of Europe is looking pretty full at the moment.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 23
Gauls/Britons 24
Georgians 23
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 29 (28 + 1) -- People need to stop voting for Benin so I can upvote things other than the PNW. :p
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 4
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 23
Timurids/Other Central Asia 19
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom