New Beta Version - June 22nd (6/22)

[tu_79]

You're suggesting the status quo, more or less, which does nothing to prevent a mad rush for one ideology or another, once the first-in bonuses are gone. And the rush is because of the large unhappiness penalties if you choose differently from the culture leader. (There's also the rich-getting-richer issue.)

See it this way. There are eight civs in the standard map. The first six civs took freedom and order. No one took Autocracy. The fifth civ gains five free tenets.
With Gazebo latest, had the player change ideology, he would lose all five tenets.

Edit. You're right about the unhappiness issue for those that come so late, though. They would be forced to change. So maybe the unhappiness for not following the cultural leader could be tweaked down.

 

[Txurce]

See it this way. There are eight civs in the standard map. The first six civs took freedom and order. No one took Autocracy. The fifth civ gains five free tenets.
With Gazebo latest, had the player change ideology, he would lose all five tenets.

Edit. You're right about the unhappiness issue for those that come so late, though. They would be forced to change. So maybe the unhappiness for not following the cultural leader could be tweaked down.

This is the core issue. Address this and the rest is relatively minor. (By the way, I also think 5 turns of anarchy -- and losing all tenets -- is excessive... although you don't lose hard benefits.)

 

[CrazyG]

I think its just unhappiness from ideological pressure as the core issue. Too much too fast

 

[Gazebo]

I think its just unhappiness from ideological pressure as the core issue. Too much too fast

Funny you mention this, I've actually been working on a solution for it.
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