New Religions Requested...

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If you do figure it out, then please post it for the rest of us! I would be very interested in reading a tutorial on how to add new religions. I have the Shinto religion mod (which, btw, is really cool - props to the creator) but I'm not technically inclined so I don't know if I could use it to figure out how it was done.

It would be awesome to have: Sikhism, Jainism, and Bahá'í Faith. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion, Sikhism has 23 million followers, which though it may pale in comparison to the 1.3 billion Muslims or 2.1 billion Christians, is nothing to sneeze at. Judaism is in Civ4 and it only has 14 million followers.

Also (though IMO not as important) it would be cool to have Egyptian, Greek/Roman, and Norse pantheonic religion as well as Zoroastrianism. These have little influence today but had enormous historical significance, which is why they would be fun to have in the game.

Oh how great it would be to learn how to add religions to the game...

 

[Mr.Earl]

Well, now that more replies have come in, I think I have a way to make Atheism seem less of a religion and more of a policy. Atheism only has a single building that allows Atheism to spread. No Missionaries, no monastaries, no cathedrals, no wonder. Just one building. And it also is shown at the city bar and city screen. It doesn't boost culture, Just research. That way, Atheism can be different.

 

[Eusebius]

It would be awesome to have: Sikhism, Jainism, and Bahá'í Faith. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion, Sikhism has 23 million followers...

Patience, patience. I'll have all of those in the final release, as well as Zoroastrianism.

Also (though IMO not as important) it would be cool to have Egyptian, Greek/Roman, and Norse pantheonic religion... These have little influence today but had enormous historical significance, which is why they would be fun to have in the game.

Actually, I don't think these would work out as well as you think. Historically, no one went to war because your polytheistic religion was different from theirs. In fact, these religions tend to be synchretistic, meaning that if your culture seems to have stronger gods than mine, we just add yours to our pantheon, or assume yours are ours with another name. Egyptian Thoth was thought to be Greek Hermes, for exampe. {Now, if someone decided to do an "Age of Mythology" mod, that would be another matter...} In Eusebius World Religions, these will be assumed to be part of Paganism.

SECULAR ATHEISM: I personally would not include it, but will bow to popular pressure. There are settings in the religion data structures which allow you to have each city with the religion generate extra beakers. I am thinking of having it be founded with Physics, give it a fairly high spread rate, but no buildings or missionaries. Combine the extra beakers with the research boost from Freedom of Religion and you should get what you are looking for.

UPDATE: I'm getting fairly close to the Alpha release. Documentation and XML going well, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out the Python thing. I am a programmer, but new to Python.

Eusebius

PS. AFTER posting, I noticed this was not the thread discussing my mod. Maybe you'll find it interesting anyway. Stay tuned to http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=162297

 

[ArmPilot]

Even if the polytheistic religions were different from others, I would still much like to see them in a mod. I mean, Civ 4 is meant to be an ALTERNATE history of the world in a way, so if you think about it....

 

[FOSFOROS]

I hope if someone would do that mod but add satan worshipping and other pagang religions like those norwegian viking religions. And all ocultt systems like wicca and stuff. I could explain better what I mean but I am now on a lazy mood and wont write so long...

 

[Mr.Earl]

Even if the polytheistic religions were different from others, I would still much like to see them in a mod. I mean, Civ 4 is meant to be an ALTERNATE history of the world in a way, so if you think about it....

Don't worry about that, Eusebius just mixed up this thread with the thread about his all-religion Mod he's making. While Polythistic religions do seem to genarally have less warlike pasts, You can't toss them away because of THAT. Don't forget how determined followers of Greek/Roman Ploytheism were to destroy Christianity.

 

[ArmPilot]

I hope if someone would do that mod but add satan worshipping and other pagang religions like those norwegian viking religions. And all ocultt systems like wicca and stuff. I could explain better what I mean but I am now on a lazy mood and wont write so long...

I don't think Satanism is really considered pagan, mainly becuase pagan religions followed more than one god, and as far as I know, Satanism only follows Satan.

Don't worry about that, Eusebius just mixed up this thread with the thread about his all-religion Mod he's making. While Polythistic religions do seem to genarally have less warlike pasts, You can't toss them away because of THAT. Don't forget how determined followers of Greek/Roman Ploytheism were to destroy Christianity.

Well, if you think about it, they didn't really have less warlike pasts, they just didn't cuase war for the sake of religion. Look at the Vikings. They were very war like, the greatest glory for a viking or anyone else that followed Norse Polytheism (Sometimes called Asatru) was to die fighting in battle. They were great sea raiders, most of the time attacking coastal Christain churches until they started invading whole nations.

 

[FOSFOROS]

Vikings rule. within paganism i meant those religions which aren those "main" religions like hinduism or christianity. I just would like to have satanism as national religion. It would be cool to have whole civilization worshipping satan. But it would come AFTER christianity.

 

[Eusebius]

I just would like to have satanism as national religion. It would be cool to have whole civilization worshipping satan. But it would come AFTER christianity.

Okay, I gotta ask. What would be so cool about it?

 

[Eusebius]

Still catching up after a couple days...

While Polythistic religions do seem to genarally have less warlike pasts, You can't toss them away because of THAT.

Actually, polytheistic religions, especially pagan ones, seem to be extremely warlike. Vikings, Romans, Aztecs... even American Indians were often pretty vicious when it came to war. Pagan polytheists just don't seem to go to war because someone has a different religion than they do. If one is interested in historical accuracy, that is why it doesn't make sense to have a bunch of seperate pagan religions in the game, because the diplomacy engine in the AI will base a lot of relations on religion.

Now if you wanted to alter the game concept of religion into some kind of of cultural affinity, that might work.

Eusebius

 

[Dryhad]

Okay, I gotta ask. What would be so cool about it?

The idea of something such as Satanism becoming a national religion. It's different. It's that whole alternate history kind of thing that the Civilisation series is built on.

 

[FOSFOROS]

Dryhad hitted the point. Think aboout it. If the nationality would be satanism then all nowaday satanists would be christian which would be of course illegal. That is the thing which makes satanism as national religion so cool.

 

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I really would like to find out how to add religions via modding so that I can have Baha'i, Sikhism, Jainism, Shinto, and Zoroastrianism and play a game on a huge map with 18 civs and 12 religions. Does anyone want to post a tutorial or maybe at least just rough guidelines outlining what has to be done?

 

[John Stalin]

Okay let me clear some things up...

Satanism isn't worshipping satan, luciferianism is... and neither are pagan religions.

Some Religions I would like to see added are:
-Druidry
-Shamanism
-Wicca
-Rastafari Movement
-Native American Earthy Religion (Where you worship the earth... basically wicca)
-Satanism (The Belief that the "7 Deadly Sins" are good)
-Luciferianism (Satan Worship)

I really hope I could help x.O

 

[John Stalin]

Another thing, if each religion had a specific military unit...

what the hell would a Luciferian have?... I shudder to think

 

[Leif]

I think that no matter how it's implemented, Atheism shouldn't be used the same way as a religion, we don't want to step on the toes of the faithful by making atheism way better than any peticular theism, but we don't want atheism to be merely a flavor civic/addition.

(Praise Athe)

 

[John Stalin]

okay I realize this is off topic... but Leif >.> I love your sig ^^ I'm a bit of a socialist... POWER to the people

 

[Mr.Earl]

Okay let me clear some things up...

Satanism isn't worshipping satan, luciferianism is... and neither are pagan religions.

Some Religions I would like to see added are:
-Druidry
-Shamanism
-Wicca
-Rastafari Movement
-Native American Earthy Religion (Where you worship the earth... basically wicca)
-Satanism (The Belief that the "7 Deadly Sins" are good)
-Luciferianism (Satan Worship)

I really hope I could help x.O

I'll get to that, thanks Jhon Stalin.

I think that no matter how it's implemented, Atheism shouldn't be used the same way as a religion, we don't want to step on the toes of the faithful by making atheism way better than any peticular theism, but we don't want atheism to be merely a flavor civic/addition.

So, you want Atheism to be a religion and not a religion?

 

[Dryhad]

So, you want Atheism to be a religion and not a religion?

I think that's perfect! It's exactly how atheism fits into Civ IV. Now if only we could figure out what it means.

 

[John Stalin]

Well there I think atheism is technically a religion since having no religion is nontheism... btw Mr. Earl, I don't know if you've added it yet but I'm working on an Asatru Mod.