Ronnie1
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I would vote for a SWOTM while the Bts stuff gets sorted out over the next couple months.
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Post - for all of us that patch the game with BTS, I doubt everyone as a dual-install of Warlords.
I agree with everyone else that BTS should have another patch. 3.13 seems to have broken a few things during the all of the fixes...
Gosha190
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an old misery standpoint:
OK... SGOTM, SWOTM, SBOTM... in parallel! Each player (team) will be able to get it's own laurel competing with him own. Besides that, BTS is row in some senses.. I think we must speak about SBOTM after one or two BOTM will be finished.
OK... SGOTM, SWOTM, SBOTM... in parallel! Each player (team) will be able to get it's own laurel competing with him own. Besides that, BTS is row in some senses.. I think we must speak about SBOTM after one or two BOTM will be finished.
And what about all those who have not yet bought BtS?
I hope that's a joke. Developing one new map is proving hard enough. And you want three?Gosha190 said:
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As understand it the latest Warlords patch is available standalone.
Argh
!!!I think we cannot afford to loose these players. So if I understand you correctly:
- either we have a SGOTM/SWOTM pre-BtS patch, requiring dual install for us who have BtS
- either we have a SGOTM/SWOTM post-BtS patch, excluding players without BtS
Am I correct ?
If that's the case, then since most players with BtS will be patching sooner or later AND get a dual setup to play GOTM/WOTM, seems like first option is better. Right ?
Harbourboy
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I am not interested in dual installing. What a drama. I am going unpatched until this is sorted out.
Argh
I think we cannot afford to loose these players. So if I understand you correctly:
- either we have a SGOTM/SWOTM pre-BtS patch, requiring dual install for us who have BtS
- either we have a SGOTM/SWOTM post-BtS patch, excluding players without BtS
Am I correct ?
If that's the case, then since most players with BtS will be patching sooner or later AND get a dual setup to play GOTM/WOTM, seems like first option is better. Right ?
It's worse than that. Some people don't have the pre-BtS versions at all if they bought from Steam or the Gold or Complete versions. So they don't have a dual-install option.
However ...
Hot off the presses, I *believe* we have been advised by someone at Firaxis that we can distribute the post-BtS .dll files. This would mean that people without the BtS upgrade can update their installations so that we can use post-BtS start files for our games in future.
Watch this space.
I think we should use the version that we currently use for the GOTM or WOTM in order to keep consistency.
Gosha190
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You are right!
I do not want double installation. So I'm for SWOTM based on 2.13 patch.
I'm HOF gauntlet player currently. Hm.. Both russian civ sites develop BTS competition so I cann't play somewhere else HOF gauntlets
Of course. And if it is confirmed that we can distribute the post-BtS Assets then that will be done across all competitions - xOTM and HoF.
Gosha190
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exactly! +1!
PS as I said before: SBOTM must be played after some BOTM passed, imho
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Take your time, Gyathaar. We can't wait, but we can wait. 
I vote for Warlords SG next.
I vote for Warlords SG next.
BLubmuz
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Let me see if i got it:
- a new SG can't start before the new HoF mods will be ready
- probably if you can distribute the assets varied by the 3.13 patch our life will be simpler (in terms of CIV)
- when i write Hof mods i mean not only the 3.13. but the 2.xx.001 and the 1.xx.001, to deal with the new assets.
Since a new game can't be annouced with map and so on, but we got a good number of players awaiting, is possible to start the sign-up thread with minimum news about the next SG (probably a warlords one) to save some week?
Eventually, a "normal" game can be easier to start?
- a new SG can't start before the new HoF mods will be ready
- probably if you can distribute the assets varied by the 3.13 patch our life will be simpler (in terms of CIV)
- when i write Hof mods i mean not only the 3.13. but the 2.xx.001 and the 1.xx.001, to deal with the new assets.
Since a new game can't be annouced with map and so on, but we got a good number of players awaiting, is possible to start the sign-up thread with minimum news about the next SG (probably a warlords one) to save some week?
Eventually, a "normal" game can be easier to start?
Not quite ...
- The existing mods don't need to be changed to work with the modified assets. The start file simply needs to be built to lock into those assets plus the existing mod, instead of to the old assets.
- The only requirement for a new HoF Mod is for BtS, for use in HoF and BOTMs/SBOTMs.
- We need a way to distribute the modified assets. I tend to assume just posting a zip file and telling players where to put its contents will generate support problems, so we may need a user-friendly installer to place the files correctly. That could be done either by incorporating them into the HoF Mod installers, or by creating a separate installer. This discussion is under way with the HoF team.
Based on all the above, I agree the most likely next game will be Warlords. But I don't really want to start a sign-up thread if I haven't got sight of a game for you to play or a timetable for its arrival.
- The existing mods don't need to be changed to work with the modified assets. The start file simply needs to be built to lock into those assets plus the existing mod, instead of to the old assets.
- The only requirement for a new HoF Mod is for BtS, for use in HoF and BOTMs/SBOTMs.
- We need a way to distribute the modified assets. I tend to assume just posting a zip file and telling players where to put its contents will generate support problems, so we may need a user-friendly installer to place the files correctly. That could be done either by incorporating them into the HoF Mod installers, or by creating a separate installer. This discussion is under way with the HoF team.
Based on all the above, I agree the most likely next game will be Warlords. But I don't really want to start a sign-up thread if I haven't got sight of a game for you to play or a timetable for its arrival.
Jimmy Thunder
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Thanks for the hard work and support Alan.
I'll be keen on a Warlords succession game coming up in the near future...
I'll be keen on a Warlords succession game coming up in the near future...
Personally, I'd love a BTS succession game, and I'd definitely sign up. However, if it can't be done for a while then it really does make sense to do one more in Vanilla or Warlords first... and I say that even though personally I probably wouldn't take part.
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