TimTheEnchanter
I...am...an Enchanter!
An excellent point. Just because I micromanage doesn't mean I'm good at it!
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TheViking
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An updated map based on the preceding discussion:
There seems to be pretty good agreement about the SSC site so I've removed the "S" sites that were present on the previous map. RF's settler should IMO head to the SSC site ASAP. Maybe we should rush buy RF's settler now ?
I've added a few additional city sites. C5 seems a very good site based on the preceding discussion. If we build a city there I'd prefer C4 to minimize overlap and a filler city at "FILL".
C6 is a very good city site for a settler from RF once we have founded our SSC (which is the #1 priority). C7 is interesting too but improving the terrain there takes a lot of time - I'd prefer C6.
We should probably build a city at C0 in the future but I prefer C2 to C5 and FILL first because C0 is a much worse site and there will be some time until we see what the foreign coast NE from that site looks like.
There seems to be pretty good agreement about the SSC site so I've removed the "S" sites that were present on the previous map. RF's settler should IMO head to the SSC site ASAP. Maybe we should rush buy RF's settler now ?
I've added a few additional city sites. C5 seems a very good site based on the preceding discussion. If we build a city there I'd prefer C4 to minimize overlap and a filler city at "FILL".
C6 is a very good city site for a settler from RF once we have founded our SSC (which is the #1 priority). C7 is interesting too but improving the terrain there takes a lot of time - I'd prefer C6.
We should probably build a city at C0 in the future but I prefer C2 to C5 and FILL first because C0 is a much worse site and there will be some time until we see what the foreign coast NE from that site looks like.
GaryNemo
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Viking, you are marvelous! 
SSC is agreed, then?
Leowind and others have stated: "I definitely support S2/SSC as destination for RF settler, no roading on the way. " and I agree.
I feel we must choose between FILL and C0 for the LP Settler. Eventually, I like C2 Hill Mine, but we'll need 2 Settlers to found it. C0 has less corruption, but FILL looks better at creating Settlers - it can borrow the Whale from C2 and even SSC's Fish if SSC doesn't use the Fish any particular turn. This is generally the benefit of Fillers, btw, good productivity.
Leowind has noted that LP can found FILL, then C0, then we'd have enough Settlers to found C2 Hill Mine. I'm not sure C5 is land... And RF Settler founds SSC, then another Settler to found C6, right? C7 is far future, when we have Harbors.
Good points on micromanagement RF: the 2 turn Settler. Banana, then GLS (where we continue to avoid the Road. Next time, guys?). But then what? As RF starts another Sett, and we walk to SSC, the Buffalo may be too much production. We want to quickly get back up to Size=2, then finish the Settler. Banana or River Bend Plains? Or, heretical, Road the GLS! Naw, the Banana will be good, and I'd rather found SSC and start a Phx ASAP.
SSC is agreed, then? Leowind and others have stated: "I definitely support S2/SSC as destination for RF settler, no roading on the way. " and I agree.
I feel we must choose between FILL and C0 for the LP Settler. Eventually, I like C2 Hill Mine, but we'll need 2 Settlers to found it. C0 has less corruption, but FILL looks better at creating Settlers - it can borrow the Whale from C2 and even SSC's Fish if SSC doesn't use the Fish any particular turn. This is generally the benefit of Fillers, btw, good productivity.
Leowind has noted that LP can found FILL, then C0, then we'd have enough Settlers to found C2 Hill Mine. I'm not sure C5 is land... And RF Settler founds SSC, then another Settler to found C6, right? C7 is far future, when we have Harbors.
Good points on micromanagement RF: the 2 turn Settler. Banana, then GLS (where we continue to avoid the Road. Next time, guys?). But then what? As RF starts another Sett, and we walk to SSC, the Buffalo may be too much production. We want to quickly get back up to Size=2, then finish the Settler. Banana or River Bend Plains? Or, heretical, Road the GLS! Naw, the Banana will be good, and I'd rather found SSC and start a Phx ASAP.
I'm for SSC, Fill, C4, and C5.
Eventually I'd like to get C0 done, but would prefer an outward expansion as we grow, then when the travel time would be too long or the city can't support a settler for very long, get C0 built.
Eventually I'd like to get C0 done, but would prefer an outward expansion as we grow, then when the travel time would be too long or the city can't support a settler for very long, get C0 built.
TimTheEnchanter
I...am...an Enchanter!
Great explanation. I think building FILL first makes sense as it can use those two specials. I hadn't even thought of that. But if we're going to build there, I would definitely put the Canal city at C4 so that FILL doesn't get completely squeezed out. (Not to mention I think its a better site anyway! 
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Statement from the Office of Scientific Research: The OSR (Office of Scientific Research) formaly endorses the propsed river delta site for a possible SSC (Super Science City). It is this office's hope that a more promising site may yet be found, but this site has potential to add significantly to our science research in any case.
There has been controversy as of late regarding the building of roads to some of the outlaying areas immediately South of our capital. It was the understanding of the OSR that this area was lightly populated and unworked. There has been some suggestion, however, of utilizing this area from time to time as a means of balancing and maximizing both resource and trade production. If it is the intention to utilize this area, commonly known as "Shielded Grassland South," even occasionally, then the OCR recommends building some access roads to facilitate the movement of goods to and from Regia Fanatica, and thus increasing the trade value of the area. This may delay slightly the founding of the proposed SSC, but will pay off in increased trade during times of its use.
There has been controversy as of late regarding the building of roads to some of the outlaying areas immediately South of our capital. It was the understanding of the OSR that this area was lightly populated and unworked. There has been some suggestion, however, of utilizing this area from time to time as a means of balancing and maximizing both resource and trade production. If it is the intention to utilize this area, commonly known as "Shielded Grassland South," even occasionally, then the OCR recommends building some access roads to facilitate the movement of goods to and from Regia Fanatica, and thus increasing the trade value of the area. This may delay slightly the founding of the proposed SSC, but will pay off in increased trade during times of its use.
Looks really good. C4 seems like the best choice.
C7 - Is this one really worth it? We are not THAT short on land to settle. Maybe if it had two whale specials.
SSC site also looks good, but it would be worth moving it one square SE if we could gain a special by doing it.
C7 - Is this one really worth it? We are not THAT short on land to settle. Maybe if it had two whale specials.
SSC site also looks good, but it would be worth moving it one square SE if we could gain a special by doing it.
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