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The Nobles' Club series started out as a way for Noble-level (and below) players to improve their game. Most of the original participants now play at much higher levels, so this has become a way for advanced players to help others learn to play better. You can play your own game at any level and with any mod, but it would be nice to comment on the games of other players and give them advice.
Our next leader is Sulieman of the Ottoman Empire, whom we last played in NC XXII; we played his fellow Ottoman, Mehmen II, in NC XL. The Ottomans start with Agriculture and The Wheel, which happen to fulfill the prerequisites for Pottery if you want to go for early granaries (and cottages).
Personally, based just on what's visible, I wonder if moving 2NE 1N to the jungle might give a better start.
Finally, a cut and paste of our standard doctrine:
There are no hard and fast rules here: fun and learning are our primary goals, but we do request that you update your progress at various points in the game, using the Spoiler feature of the boards.
Tentative posting updates are suggested at:
4000 BC (starting thoughts, no spoiler required for that discussion)
1000 BC or so (how you decided to progress up the early tech/build paths, which AIs you have met, where you're thinking of putting cities, etc)
500 AD or so (after establishing some cities and a possible plan of action)
1200 AD or so (mid-game, Lib race, wars or peace, or whichever happened or didn't, met other continent if applicable, etc)
1600 AD (or when you have decided on a course of action and a specific victory condition)
End of game (Victory!!! or defeat, no shame in losing, especially if you tried a higher level. Learning is what we focus on, not fastest win or biggest empire)
Remember, these are only guidelines. What we really want are your thoughts as the game goes on, so if your strategies don't fall into line with those dates, feel free to adjust your reports accordingly.
We also welcome players to ask for specific game advice, as we have a number or stronger players who lurk and help out with solid tips, and of course, we help each other. Replies to specific questions should also be in spoilers, with a simple "@" in front of the person the answer is directed towards.
Special Thanks go to Bleys and TMIT, who really made this series a great one, r_rolo1, mapmaker extraordinaire, for his maps for most of the series, and all of you for playing.
The WB-saves are attached (zipped; they are bigger than standard saves). To play, simply download and unzip it into your BTS/Saves/WorldBuilder folder. Start the game, and load your favorite MOD (if you use one, if not, check out the BUG MOD), select "Play Scenario", and look for "NC 70 Sulieman Noble" (or Monarch, if you want the AI to start with its usual Archery bonus tech, or Immortal for Archery+Hunting, or Deity to add Agriculture). This allows you to play with your favorite MOD at the Level and Speed of your choice. From Quick-Warlord to Marathon-Deity, all are welcome! We stuck with the name "Nobles Club" because it has a cool ring to it.
Note for those who hate goody huts: open the WB save file with a text editor and delete all lines that say
Our next leader is Sulieman of the Ottoman Empire, whom we last played in NC XXII; we played his fellow Ottoman, Mehmen II, in NC XL. The Ottomans start with Agriculture and The Wheel, which happen to fulfill the prerequisites for Pottery if you want to go for early granaries (and cottages).
- Traits: Sulieman is Imperialistic and Philosophical. IMP gives faster settlers and Great Generals; PHI gives faster Great People (and Universities).
- The UB: The Hammam, an Aqueduct with +2 -- both happiness and health in the same building, which might make it a high priority for many cities early in the game.
- The UU: The Janissary, a Musketman with +25% vs melee, archery, and mounted units -- basically everything pre-gunpowder. As with Zara, this suggests a Gunpowder beeline.
Personally, based just on what's visible, I wonder if moving 2NE 1N to the jungle might give a better start.
Spoiler map details :
LARGE, 3 custom continents, high sea level (thus less land), 12 opponents (4 more than the usual 8). It'll be crowded! We agreed on this cycle to try some "different" maps, and people seemed to think Large would be OK once in a while -- though Huge was beyond what most found comfortable.
Spoiler edits :
Regenerated until
- We got an agricultural resource in the BFC.
- The map didn't look totally weird
- There wasn't an obvious place where one AI got too much uncontested territory.
There are no hard and fast rules here: fun and learning are our primary goals, but we do request that you update your progress at various points in the game, using the Spoiler feature of the boards.
Tentative posting updates are suggested at:
4000 BC (starting thoughts, no spoiler required for that discussion)
1000 BC or so (how you decided to progress up the early tech/build paths, which AIs you have met, where you're thinking of putting cities, etc)
500 AD or so (after establishing some cities and a possible plan of action)
1200 AD or so (mid-game, Lib race, wars or peace, or whichever happened or didn't, met other continent if applicable, etc)
1600 AD (or when you have decided on a course of action and a specific victory condition)
End of game (Victory!!! or defeat, no shame in losing, especially if you tried a higher level. Learning is what we focus on, not fastest win or biggest empire)
Remember, these are only guidelines. What we really want are your thoughts as the game goes on, so if your strategies don't fall into line with those dates, feel free to adjust your reports accordingly.
We also welcome players to ask for specific game advice, as we have a number or stronger players who lurk and help out with solid tips, and of course, we help each other. Replies to specific questions should also be in spoilers, with a simple "@" in front of the person the answer is directed towards.
Special Thanks go to Bleys and TMIT, who really made this series a great one, r_rolo1, mapmaker extraordinaire, for his maps for most of the series, and all of you for playing.
The WB-saves are attached (zipped; they are bigger than standard saves). To play, simply download and unzip it into your BTS/Saves/WorldBuilder folder. Start the game, and load your favorite MOD (if you use one, if not, check out the BUG MOD), select "Play Scenario", and look for "NC 70 Sulieman Noble" (or Monarch, if you want the AI to start with its usual Archery bonus tech, or Immortal for Archery+Hunting, or Deity to add Agriculture). This allows you to play with your favorite MOD at the Level and Speed of your choice. From Quick-Warlord to Marathon-Deity, all are welcome! We stuck with the name "Nobles Club" because it has a cool ring to it.
Note for those who hate goody huts: open the WB save file with a text editor and delete all lines that say
Or, just use Capellan's saves.ImprovementType=IMPROVEMENT_GOODY_HUT