Dan-Beersheba
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Well, I'm here. Probably not for long though, cause it seems Off Topic is pretty boring.
Official arriving/introduction, returning, leaving thread
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Dan-Beersheba
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Ok, I've decided I may stay longer than over night. For the simple reason I find absolutist are simply ignorant.
Perfection
The Great Head.
Are you characterising me as an absolutist?
BasketCase
Username sez it all
My posts make some of CFC's denizens crave boredom.Dan-Beersheba said:
Look around a bit, and especially check out the Babe Thread! Ain't no way that one's boring.....
Dan-Beersheba
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If you feel the need to somehow place your name in there, then by all means. If you look closely, however, you will indeed find that I did not.Perfection said:
CurtSibling
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Dan-Beersheba said:
Our apologies, your highness.
Perfection
The Great Head.
Okay, if not me then who are you refering to?Dan-Beersheba said:
(I'm not an absolutist by the way)
Oh and was that TI-89 crack out of spite.
Dan-Beersheba
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Some would say the one that yelped, is the one that got hit. I, obviously, wouldn't say this. That would mean, probably anyways, that it in fact it was you that I was referring to, and would more than likely lead to a moderator action(which we both might get anywaysPerfection said:
). I simply said "some would say".
Perfection
The Great Head.
So my criticism still stands and all you were doing was trying to cover up your actions to not appear foolish.Dan-Beersheba said:Some would say the one that yelped, is the one that got hit. I, obviously, wouldn't say this. That would mean, probably anyways, that it in fact it was you that I was referring to, and would more than likely lead to a moderator action(which we both might get anyways
Dan-Beersheba
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You just had to look and see what I wrote didn't you .
.As I said, boring.CurtSibling said:
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Paalikles in few words
Some of you know me a bit, some of you dont. I try to have my avatars show of sides of me, but you must interpret this your own way. I dont usually stirr up much of an argument with what I post, but I may provoke some by coming off as someone more to the left on several issues.
The Paalikles pic:
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Who is Paalikles?
Registered on this forum since Civ3 came to Norway in 2001, I derived my name from the general Pericles of Athens, Greece. Many have wondered what Paal meant - and in Holland the nickname was once interpreted as "pole licker". It is a good thing that we all speak English here and not Dutch
I am an economics student, and part time IKEA worker, from a middle class family, my mother and father both pursued academica, though I did not exactly follow in their footsteps when economics became my way.
A leftwinged socialist?
Hehe, that would very much depend on your point of view. Let me attempt to clearify some issues:
The war in Afghanistan and in Iraq
In principle, I am pro a war on terror. However, there is a significant difference between the situation in Afghanistan and that in Iraq. I believed in the way of the UN - that weapons inspectors should be allowed to do their job, that the world should act on their discoveries. I feel that the war on Iraq was not justifiable by claiming that there were WMD in Iraq - when there was not enough evidence to support this.
Wellfare:
I do not believe in the passive role of government (like that of the US). The government, funded by taxes, should distribute wellfare to the population. This provides security, should (as an example) you be so unfortunate as to have a n accident that prevents you from going back to work in the future. Receiving social aid should not be anything to be ashamed of - but since the system (any system) could be exploited - it should not be too much of a cushion for those who receive it.
I believe that taxation is a necessary evil. We choose to pay for insurance, though we may live our lives without needing it even once. Part of what our taxes are used for, is to provide security for ourself: if we loose work, when we get old, etc.
Government or private sector as the owner?
I believe this not to be a question of ideology - but rather a question of who provides the most efficient output. Obviously private owners have a profit motive - but it may be that the costs associated with the government as the owner is larger than the cost of having private ownership.
I do not want to see the government sell resources (like ownership of oil resources...) to foreign investors. This is in line with his belief that the government is responsible for trying to maintain growth that is to the benefit of as many future generations as possible. Clearly - controlling one's own resources is a good way to ensure that consumption of one's resources is not too large.
Patents, competition and regulating firms:
I believe that patents serve as a strong incentive for research and development. However, patent rights should not be too strong - as that would generate monopoly power for the patent owner, but not to weak, as that would remove the incentive to spend on R&D. It is important that the government intervenes if there is market failure. Normally this is to the benefit of consumers.
Active government?
Yes, the government is there to ensure that there be no market failure, and to provide public goods. But I do not believe that the government can solve all our problems. Just as it is likely that market failure will occur - "government failure" will also occur.
What are your views on religion?
I was raised as a Protestant, but I consider myself an atheist these days, and I am in the process of leaving the state church. Ethics is still important to me though.
About missionaries:
Religion is personal. What I believe is none of your business, and I despise you for trying to force your religion upon me: People should be allowed to choose for themselves without outside interference.
the EU:
I believe the subsidy system of agriculture used in the European Union gives too large an incentive to producers - so that they produce agricultural goods they normally would not produce. Compared to other countries, agricultural production in the EU is less efficient - production requires higher costs in terms of input than in countries outside the Union. With a subsidy, producers deliver too much goods to the market, the result is overproduction and dumping This overproduction uses up resources that otherwise could have been used to produce other materials. The dumping pushes down the price for countries that produce these kinds of goods relatively more cheaply than the EU.
This argument should be seen in light of the classical approach to free trade given by mr David Ricardo. In summary - EU subsidies arent good in that the cost to consumers is higher than it would have been without toll barriers and subsidies.
Against free trade or not?
Many economists are for free trade. I am one of them. However, our interpretation of the term differs from the common interpretation. The EU does not practice "true" free trade!
Paalikles and civ
I got into games from playing Police Quest 1 IIRC. So I was an adventure gamer back in the days, with Police Quest, Sam and Max, King's Quest. Leisure Suit Larry was fun, as were the classic Lucasarts games with Indy and DOTT as some of my favorites
Civ3 - multiplayer?
Sure. I play some. Havent played an entire online game yet, but I am in 3 pbem games right now. I am not looking for more games, except with those people I have already made arrangements with
Skills?
Monarch player, learning to improve micromanagement.
Redone sometime in November
Some of you know me a bit, some of you dont. I try to have my avatars show of sides of me, but you must interpret this your own way. I dont usually stirr up much of an argument with what I post, but I may provoke some by coming off as someone more to the left on several issues.
The Paalikles pic:
Click here
Who is Paalikles?
Registered on this forum since Civ3 came to Norway in 2001, I derived my name from the general Pericles of Athens, Greece. Many have wondered what Paal meant - and in Holland the nickname was once interpreted as "pole licker". It is a good thing that we all speak English here and not Dutch
I am an economics student, and part time IKEA worker, from a middle class family, my mother and father both pursued academica, though I did not exactly follow in their footsteps when economics became my way.
A leftwinged socialist?
Hehe, that would very much depend on your point of view. Let me attempt to clearify some issues:
The war in Afghanistan and in Iraq
In principle, I am pro a war on terror. However, there is a significant difference between the situation in Afghanistan and that in Iraq. I believed in the way of the UN - that weapons inspectors should be allowed to do their job, that the world should act on their discoveries. I feel that the war on Iraq was not justifiable by claiming that there were WMD in Iraq - when there was not enough evidence to support this.
Wellfare:
I do not believe in the passive role of government (like that of the US). The government, funded by taxes, should distribute wellfare to the population. This provides security, should (as an example) you be so unfortunate as to have a n accident that prevents you from going back to work in the future. Receiving social aid should not be anything to be ashamed of - but since the system (any system) could be exploited - it should not be too much of a cushion for those who receive it.
I believe that taxation is a necessary evil. We choose to pay for insurance, though we may live our lives without needing it even once. Part of what our taxes are used for, is to provide security for ourself: if we loose work, when we get old, etc.
Government or private sector as the owner?
I believe this not to be a question of ideology - but rather a question of who provides the most efficient output. Obviously private owners have a profit motive - but it may be that the costs associated with the government as the owner is larger than the cost of having private ownership.
I do not want to see the government sell resources (like ownership of oil resources...) to foreign investors. This is in line with his belief that the government is responsible for trying to maintain growth that is to the benefit of as many future generations as possible. Clearly - controlling one's own resources is a good way to ensure that consumption of one's resources is not too large.
Patents, competition and regulating firms:
I believe that patents serve as a strong incentive for research and development. However, patent rights should not be too strong - as that would generate monopoly power for the patent owner, but not to weak, as that would remove the incentive to spend on R&D. It is important that the government intervenes if there is market failure. Normally this is to the benefit of consumers.
Active government?
Yes, the government is there to ensure that there be no market failure, and to provide public goods. But I do not believe that the government can solve all our problems. Just as it is likely that market failure will occur - "government failure" will also occur.
What are your views on religion?
I was raised as a Protestant, but I consider myself an atheist these days, and I am in the process of leaving the state church. Ethics is still important to me though.
About missionaries:
Religion is personal. What I believe is none of your business, and I despise you for trying to force your religion upon me: People should be allowed to choose for themselves without outside interference.
the EU:
I believe the subsidy system of agriculture used in the European Union gives too large an incentive to producers - so that they produce agricultural goods they normally would not produce. Compared to other countries, agricultural production in the EU is less efficient - production requires higher costs in terms of input than in countries outside the Union. With a subsidy, producers deliver too much goods to the market, the result is overproduction and dumping This overproduction uses up resources that otherwise could have been used to produce other materials. The dumping pushes down the price for countries that produce these kinds of goods relatively more cheaply than the EU.
This argument should be seen in light of the classical approach to free trade given by mr David Ricardo. In summary - EU subsidies arent good in that the cost to consumers is higher than it would have been without toll barriers and subsidies.
Against free trade or not?
Many economists are for free trade. I am one of them. However, our interpretation of the term differs from the common interpretation. The EU does not practice "true" free trade!
Paalikles and civ
I got into games from playing Police Quest 1 IIRC. So I was an adventure gamer back in the days, with Police Quest, Sam and Max, King's Quest. Leisure Suit Larry was fun, as were the classic Lucasarts games with Indy and DOTT as some of my favorites
Civ3 - multiplayer?
Sure. I play some. Havent played an entire online game yet, but I am in 3 pbem games right now. I am not looking for more games, except with those people I have already made arrangements with
Skills?
Monarch player, learning to improve micromanagement.
Redone sometime in November
WickedSmurf
pr0
Back from a 3-week vacation in Athens. A little fatter and a lot poorer. As soon as my luggage containing my camera also gets home I'll post some pictures. It got lost in Milan, MPX, in a mysterious way... Sigh. According to the staff at Arlanda airport it was no surprise though, apparently the Italians can't handle transfer flights very well. Go figure... The bright side of this is that when (if?) they find my luggage I'll get it delivered to my door.
Cheers
Cheers
hawai_74
mac über alles
i was in a big (professional) hurry these past weeks, now i've a little more time to read (and answer) on OT.
Bozo Erectus
Master Baker
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Im not dead!
Dead? I thought you were just a dumb pothead.Dumb pothead said:
Glad you're back.
Davidizer13
Mega Warlord!
I've constantly posted since 9-7-04. I just want to say: Perfection is a crackpot who abused his power in the Post Wars and got banned several times. Thank you. Good night.
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