OFW1 Science and Industry

[mad-bax]

Yes, I don't know why I was surprised at the extent of the devastation. Very well played. Getting the two GL's for two of the remaining wonders is useful. OFW should be able to finish the game on his round now.

 

[Northern Pike]

WONDERLAND


1745 (0): To create a little more separation between our dates for 20K and 100K, I sell libraries and temples worth 38 cpt.

I declare war on the Mongols, and we take Tsetserleg, Tosontsengel, and Baruun-Urt in mech-versus-spear attacks. (The majority of the cities we took in this round, I should mention, I razed or eventually abandoned.)


1750 (1): [dance] [dance] [dance] A golden moment in my Civ-playing career. We attack Batrisheet, and I see the legendary spearman-beats-tank result. [dance] [dance] [dance] Our tank retreats rather than dying, and we take the city anyway, of course.

I declare war on the Romans and found the tactical city of Piketon. We take Lugdunum with cavalry, Brundisium with tanks, Lutetia with tanks, and Syracuse with cavalry, and the Romans are no more.

We take Miami from the Americans.

We discover Rocketry and begin research on Stealth. We have three souces of aluminum.


1752 (2): We take Chicago from the Americans.

We take Ullastay and finish off the Mongols.

We upgrade 118 tanks to modern armour.


1754 (3): We take Uralsk from the Americans, in our first MA battle.

I plant a spy in Greece. The Greeks have 87 infantry, 22 marines, and ten guerrillas.

I declare war on the Greeks, and we immediately fall back into level two war weariness. This had better be quick--but then, it will be. :vampire: :devil2:

We unleash our modern armour on the Greeks, and...well, it's probably not worth relating this slaughter on a city-by-city basis. We take Athens, Sparta, and then eleven other Greek cities on their home continent. We leave Herakleia because to reach it in one turn we'd have to abandon Corinth, and Corinth has Magellan. We leave Kish (recently taken by the Greeks from the Babylonians) because for Leader-fishing purposes I want to attack the large Greek forces in this area with elite MA units, after I've accumulated them by the simple trick of having veterans win two battles in one turn. We found seven tactical cities: Madburg, One Fast Suburb, Pikeville, Madhampton, One Fast Hamlet, Pikethorpe, and Madgrad. We lose twelve MA and three bombers.

The interturn provides a moment of real tension, given our war weariness, but our government doesn't collapse.

And:

 

[Northern Pike]

Well, here's Murphy's Law at its best. I finally finish the round and the report, and it seems nothing will upload at the moment. I may not be in a position to try again for eight or ten hours.

The condensed version is that we got Cure for Cancer the old-fashioned way and the remaining three Wonders with Leaders, all in Pasargadae. Pasargadae is 19.23 turns from 20K, well ahead of our 100K pace (25.33 turns).

 

[Northern Pike]

1756 (4): We take all five Greek overseas cities: Murmansk, Buffalo, Maikop, Artemisium, and Megara.

We begin attacking the large Greek forces around Kish with elite MA, and quickly generate the GL Achaemenes, who immediately rushes Longevity in Pasargadae. We continue attacking the same Greek stack and get Darius as well; he heads off to rush SETI in Pasargadae shortly.

We raze Kish.

We found the tactical city of Fastdorf, take Herakleia, and eliminate the Greeks.

We raze Houston.

And:

 

[Northern Pike]

1758 (5): We take Washington and Kursk from the Americans.


1760 (6): We take New York from the Americans, and we now have our own source of incense.

The Americans, rather wittily, employ railroad movement to found St. Louis exactly where we took and abandoned Washington.

And:

1762 (7): We take Boston, Atlanta, St. Louis, and Seattle from the Americans.

We start completing mass transit systems in our cities.


1764 (8): We fight a minor battle with the Americans outside New York, and:

 

[Northern Pike]

 

[Northern Pike]

I reach an RoP agreement with the Carthaginians, really just so that Cyrus can get to Pasargadae quickly to rush Manhattan Project. But the RoP allows us to reach Philadelphia immediately, so:

 

[Northern Pike]

 

[Northern Pike]

1766 (9): I pump Shanghai up to size 41 with workers.

And:

1768 (10): Pasargadae now:

 

[Northern Pike]

You have to admire his optimism:

 

[mad-bax]

This could possibly be the longest turnlog in CFC history.

All we need now is a satellite flying around in the picture. We need a few SAMs for that.

Good job NP A very complicated, involved and loooong set of turns. I admire your patience and attention to detail. I wish I had it.

 

[Northern Pike]

Yankee fans celebrate another World Series victory:

 

[Northern Pike]

Thanks for your generous comments, mad-bax. Much appreciated.

The save:

1768 AD, end of turn

 

[Northern Pike]

THE FUTURE:


Pasargadae is now at 17423 cp and 134 cpt, ETA for 20K 19.23 turns. Our civilization as a whole is at 84016 cp and 631 cpt, ETA for 100K 25.33 turns.

If we're concerned about domination, we could certainly abandon Maikop, Kursk, and Chicago. All these towns serve some purpose either in denying resources and luxuries to other civs or in securing our communications, but they don't give us anything we don't already have. It might be useful to employ Mapstat, if anyone knows how to do this, so that we aren't guessing about domination.

If we're interested in any more military activity, the most stylish thing would be to take Babylon city, which would give us control of all 25 Wonders.

Our reserves are mostly in and around the Altin Tepe-Ninus-Issus-airfield region, River Palace, and Persepolis.

Perhaps we should research Space Flight next, just so that we can build Apollo Program in Pasargadae before we win.

Over to you, mad-bax. If you're still interested in seeing what an airfield looks like, there's one south of Issus.

 

[mad-bax]

I have the save.

The tile domination limit on this map is 2983
We control 2164 and have 819 to go.

The population limit is 1303
We have a total pop of1367 so we are 64 over the limit.
We can afford to take and retain around 30 to 40 further cities before triggering domination, although at this stage of the game it will not particularly affect our score.

Hope this answers your question.

BTW: Mapstat is extremely simple to use. Download it, load a save game and that's it.

 

[Northern Pike]

Thanks. I didn't think we were anywhere near tile domination, but one's eyeballed estimates of this can be surprisingly far off, in either direction.

 

[OneFastWarrior]

I have this feeling that when mad-bax fishes his turns, there will be 1 carthage city left and surrounded by Modern Armor. All that will be left is to hit the space bar and clean up pollution.

This is the vision I had for End game

 

[mad-bax]

I AM playing, but I would ask for a little patience... I might post a little tonight.

 

[OneFastWarrior]

Mad-bax, I was not trying to seem impatient, I was just letting you know of my vision

just a little joking around is all, take your time, you know I will

 

[mad-bax]

This is just a bump to let you know that I have played 3 turns. They have been war turns, and I cannot recall any game I have played with so many units of such a wide variety. A turn is taking about 40 minutes.

Hopefully I'll get done tomorrow. I'll play 4 turns today, and 3 and post tomorrow. I may try to get us to the domination limit just for the sake of being able to trigger multiple win. We will not be able to build Seti before the end of the game.

More later.