OMG Bird Flu In Bucharest!!!

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:scared: This is insane. 2 sectors from Bucharest are suspect for bird flu (2nd and 4th) and one of them (4th) has already 40 streets in quarantine!!!
I just have to walk 5 minutes and I can see the quarantined area an people in white protective clothes!!! I live in the 4th sector and I see the whole house area here has been quarantined!!! Nobody can get in or out for 1 week!!!
Nobody!
They will bring fresh food and water, and advice people what to do if they see something suspect.
I think (but I'm not sure) that this is the only city of this size infected. It has 2,000,000 inhabitants!

Consider these some news. I don't have any link, but I know it is true because I see it!!!

What do you think about this?
 
I've seen the news ... yup, the only large european city ever infected (so far)... That sux. :sad:
Which sector do you live in mirc ?

The only good thing about this is that you'll skip school. :) I had several friends in quarantined areas a few months ago. They were put present at all courses, after that they were excused from going to the blackboard and stuff like that ...
If the flu will get here lots of exams will be cancelled. :D
 
"OMG! West Nile Virus in America!"

Give it a few years, it'll be back page news.
 
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Bird flu has been blown unbelieveably out of proportion by the media to create a little drama. It isn't a pandemic, epidemic, or even a noticeable blip as a human disease.

Unless you try giving mouth to mouth resuscitation to poultry the odds of you getting it are non existent.
 
Heretic_Cata said:
I've seen the news ... yup, the only large european city ever infected (so far)... That sux. :sad:
....
We had dead birdies in central Stockholm a couple of months ago. :nono:
 
mrtn said:
We had dead birdies in central Stockholm a couple of months ago. :nono:
Really ? Was it confirmed, quarantined etc ?... Well it's not very surprising for the media to say wrong stuff ...
I am not very bothered by the flu btw, though it would suck to be in a quarantined area, being forced to stay there and just wait for the gov to supply us with food & water... We would die of starvation.
 
MrCynical said:
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Bird flu has been blown unbelieveably out of proportion by the media to create a little drama. It isn't a pandemic, epidemic, or even a noticeable blip as a human disease.

Unless you try giving mouth to mouth resuscitation to poultry the odds of you getting it are non existent.

the real worry that everypone has is that if it becomes a human to human airborne virus then there will be huge concern
 
Mirc said:
:scared: This is insane. 2 sectors from Bucharest are suspect for bird flu (2nd and 4th) and one of them (4th) has already 40 streets in quarantine!!!
I just have to walk 5 minutes and I can see the quarantined area an people in white protective clothes!!! I live in the 4th sector and I see the whole house area here has been quarantined!!! Nobody can get in or out for 1 week!!!
Nobody!
They will bring fresh food and water, and advice people what to do if they see something suspect.
I think (but I'm not sure) that this is the only city of this size infected. It has 2,000,000 inhabitants!

Consider these some news. I don't have any link, but I know it is true because I see it!!!

What do you think about this?

did it become airborne? or is ot because of infected birds?
 
Spartan117 said:
did it become airborne? or is ot because of infected birds?
They said they were lots of infected birds that got to the city via import from i don't remember what 2 countries.
 
did it become airborne? or is ot because of infected birds?

I'd assume it's infected birds (or possibly just one bird given how overkill these things are). If it had becomes airborne then by now every news site would be clogged with "OMG, bird flu will wipe out human race!!!!" style headlines (at least more than they are already).

the real worry that everypone has is that if it becomes a human to human airborne virus then there will be huge concern

But why do we need to be in a set up where one dead bird is splattered across the front pages of every national newspaper? I'd be willing to put in a very substantial bet that 2 years from now bird flu will be just another minor footnote on the list of "pandemics" that the media has blown out of all proportion, like SARS and BSE.
 
Hasnt the birdflu actually spread East to West, along commercial trade routes, rather than North to South bird migration routes?
 
honestly in chicago, dont know about other places, i dont here much about birdflu...if it is in newspaper it is like in the middle of the newspaper
 
honestly in chicago, dont know about other places, i dont here much about birdflu...if it is in newspaper it is like in the middle of the newspaper

To be fair the media does seem to have got bored with it here (UK), and there isn't that much about it any more. I was thinking of the occasion they found one dead swan with bird flu in Scotland and the media covered practically nothing else for most of the week. In the unlikely event of human-human transmission (which would still not constitute a pandemic or even an epidemic, despite the media's lack of understanding of these terms), it will certainly be all across the front pages in Europe (I don't know about America).
 
there are more important things in chicago then world news such as britney spears didnt have child in car seat the right way or something...:D


and of course the daily murder of someone:(

not too much world news
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Hasnt the birdflu actually spread East to West, along commercial trade routes, rather than North to South bird migration routes?
AIUI outside of SE asia it has spread along migratory bird routes. I think all the virus detected outside of SE asia has been 1 sub-type that was identifed in wild birds at some reservoir in china.
 
Samson said:
AIUI outside of SE asia it has spread along migratory bird routes. I think all the virus detected outside of SE asia has been 1 sub-type that was identifed in wild birds at some reservoir in china.
I never heard of birds migrating from East to West though.
 
This is the best I could find right now about humans spreading it, but I'll keep looking:

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/content.asp?contentid=34840

edit: Bingo, ok I hit the jackpot:

Transmission of the H5N1 virus by wild birds was first suggested by the deaths of thousands of bar-headed geese in May and June at Lake Qinghai in western China. These deaths suggested that the virus was transported by migratory waterfowl and was so reported in the August 19 issue of Science, the journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. However, later reports indicated that Lake Qinghai is neither as remote nor as clean as originally thought and that poultry farms in the area, many of which drain into the lake, could have been the source of the virus that infected and killed the geese.

Data from the fall migration and the wintering ranges of waterfowl and shorebirds do not support the hypothesis that the virus is spread by migratory birds. If the hypothesis were true then as the geese, ducks, plovers, sandpipers and others moved west and south across Asia, eastern Europe and into Africa, there should have been outbreaks of avian flu along the migratory route. In particular there should have been occurrences of avian flu among birds and humans in the western Mediterranean and Nile delta. No such outbreaks have occurred. The failure to find such outbreaks argues against migratory birds as carriers of the virus. Reports of the disease have actually declined since the late summer despite the concentration of large numbers of waterfowl in their winter quarters. Looking back at the pattern of outbreaks in the late summer and fall of 2005, there is little evidence that it derives from the migratory routes of birds.

What we can conclude is that birds are susceptible to the virus, but that they get it from domestic poultry. If true, then the virus may have evolved to exploit the short lives of poultry, in which a virus must reproduce rapidly, and crowded conditions of most poultry farms, which makes transmission from one chicken or duck to another relatively easy. Again, if true, this suggests that the shipment of poultry from one locality to another is a greater threat than the migration of wild birds. The deaths of wild birds coupled with the failure of the disease to show up along migratory routes also suggests that while wild birds are susceptible, they may be ill-suited to transmission of the disease. Their failure as carriers may be due to their susceptibility, which may not give the virus time to multiply in sufficient quantity to be transmitted.
http://www.collegenews.org/x5288.xml
 
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