On the Origin of Spam

Ok guys and girls, with a thread title like this it is bound to attract attention from someone powerful.

So let's not drift away from potentially interesting discussion and instead stay on topic :)
 
On topic, I believe thay in between all the serious politics, religion and economics thread, you gotta have some lighthearted entertainment thread for the members to bond, something where they can come out with obscure references to Mont Python, etc. :D
 
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But anyway, I thnk the primary problem with this premise is that it fails to define "quality" in any sense. How does a forum go about getting "better" when there is no measure of its value? Some will find it to get better, and some will find it to get worse. Some will stay and some will leave, with at least some correlation to the previous sentence. The real is figuring where this (or any forum) is at and then determining what would improve and detract from it. IT would seem, as of late, that many threads around here are having the straightforward problem of having their topics be poorly defined.
 
I come here for a few reasons. I like to listen to some of the arguments people make, especially if the poster is known to be particularly insightful. Whether or not they can express their ideas clearly is unknown, but it is always good when something makes you think. Very often I see a debate type thread and I don't join in, simply because I have nothing original to say and I know what the arguments will be anyway. Second reason is to hopefully catch some good jokes while I'm here and make some of my own. Third is to checkout the Civdip game, and the fourth is just to kill time.

Regarding all that, the things that will most interest me and encourage posting is new and original ideas. A constant influx of new ideas from new posters is more like evolution and that is what we want. As long as this forum provides that I'll be here. When it fails I'll be gone.

As for vets, I think you can tell when someone is going to be influential from their beginning posts. I correctly pegged Keirador back last year as an up and comer and I was right. Now he has practically the same amount of posts as me.
 
I find "bull sessions" to be part of "real life". I can't get the quality and breadth of discussion in face-to-face talks that I get in OT. Online, I can find higher quality than OT, for example left2right, but that doesn't mean I'm going to forget about CFC OT. I wouldn't want to pass up the chance to influence such young impressionable minds :evil:
 
Marla_Singer said:
Another thing I wonder. I tend to notice in general that people having a high post count gains some respect, are more listened and less attacked than people who have only 53 posts behind them. Do you have that feeling too ?
Well, if you'd report it, rather than wondering about it, maybe we can do something about it... :p
 
XIII said:
Well, if you'd report it, rather than wondering about it, maybe we can do something about it... :p
Ooh... pretty stars... I have to respect that... and look at the enormous post count! :worship:

Sorry... I just had to. But I won't reply to your other post. Honest.
 
Talking about postcounts it's still impressive that we have on CFC 11 members having posted more than 10,000 times, 77 members more than 5,000 times, and 627 members more than 1,000 times !!! Gosh we are nerds !

I've just counted. 3,397 people have posted more than 100 messages.

Thunderfall has real reasons to be proud of the website he has created. :)
 
Marla_Singer said:
Talking about postcounts it's still impressive that we have on CFC 11 members having posted more than 10,000 times, 77 members more than 5,000 times, and 627 members more than 1,000 times !!! Gosh we are nerds ! I've just counted. 3,397 people have posted more than 100 messages.
I would guess that OT has less than 200 regular posters. That's a pretty small community when people have 'specialty topics" they favor for serious discussion. I think fatigue is a factor that reduces the intensity of those who have strident views. It takes time to cultivate new blood and some people get impatient and move on.

The "secret" alternate site mentioned above is a haven for those who want a tighter, clubby atmosphere with different rules that allow more freedom of expression. And since time is a zero sum game, old posters who spend time there will spend less time here. The loss of those posters has changed the nature of OT.

I think that these are the major forces at work in OT:
Natural attrition of posters to real life
New younger posters
Many experienced posters moving to a "private" site
Topic fatigue
 
You forget another important factor of foral evolution - that whenever the subject a forum deals with recieves attention ( or more attention ) in its relevant community , there is a huge influx of newcomers to the forum , which stops it from stagnation ( which seems to be threatening the OT right now , which cIV will fix ) .
 
punkbass2000 said:
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Funny, when I first saw the thread title I thought I was going to be suggesting that the Monty Python song was indeed where they got the term to be applied to unsolicited commercial email. :crazyeye:

Anyway, I haven't been around enough to see a long-term change in OT (or I'm just looking at trees rather than the forest) but I would suspect that the number of "elite posters" getting tired of the same arguments is probably the same percentage of total "elite posters" as the percentage of vapid newbies (amongst the total of newbies) getting hounded, permabanned, or pushed out of OT.


My sentences do run a bit long, don't they? :blush:
 
aneeshm said:
You forget another important factor of foral evolution - that whenever the subject a forum deals with recieves attention ( or more attention ) in its relevant community , there is a huge influx of newcomers to the forum , which stops it from stagnation ( which seems to be threatening the OT right now , which cIV will fix ) .
Yes it will be interesting to see if OT is flooded with new blood later this year.
 
It is fun to see the mad scramble to induct and convert the newcomers to your ideology "x" . . . . . . . .

It's like we have two major forum "religions" , each trying to convert as many as possible whenever there is new blood available . It's also very fun .
 
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