Ed explicitly mentioned Britain in the first stream, the one before the Antiquity gameplay stream.
Only 30 Civs in base game (+ Shawnee)
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I think Ottomans are out since we haven't even seen a wonder from them yet. France, America, Mughal, Buganda, Meiji, Siam are known. Britain, Qing, Mexico, Germany and Russia are five civs that will probably compete for the last four spots...
I don’t want more eras, but if “a rocket launching” is win the science game by putting a man on the moon (end 1965-70) or even just putting a satellite in orbit (end 1955-60)
Then that would be pretty disappointing and I would start to hope for a future age.
(decolonization makes a good crisis)
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Did he actually say they're in or just "we picked Normans so that England *can* be represented differently"? Like, he also made a point about Franks as a possible predecessor for France while emphasizing this does *not* mean he's confirming those civs. I already have a lot of lines in my pathway schema leading to America, Normans not leading into Britain on top of that would make sense.
He said that Gauls and Franks were hypothetical pathways that they weren't doing. The host said something about England, and Ed said that England was called Britain in Civ7. I only skimmed the PAX presentation, but that's one of the parts I watched.
It seems to me that there a Polynesian/Hawaiian unit was seen somewhere. We can expect Hawaii and l'd put it in place of Shogunate Japan. I'd swap Ottomans for Russians. So the list is pretty much in line with what I think might happen.
I can't see them leaving out Germany. Though I'd hate it I could see all American civs go to America right now, instead of Mexico. That way Russia gets in.
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This was always going to be an issue compared against previous Civs. Even if they had 3 times the highest number they ever started with, someone would say "that's basically the same as the last one, 18 to choose at start, I'm disappointed."
Having said that, I do wish I had more than 10 choices at start.
Having said that, I do wish I had more than 10 choices at start.
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The Borobudur = Majapahit logic doesn't hold as strong if we have the Mausoleum of Theodoric or Emilie Bell with no associated civ imo. Although no Vietnam announcement alongside Trung Trac gives no obvious option for SEA either so you're probably still right.
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Majapahit is based off the emblem behind Himiko in her trailer, it's one-to-one with the depiction of the Surya Majapahit from Civ 6's indonesia.
I think it was in the "History in Layers" presentation that Ed mentioned Britain.
There are already 33 known wonders, so unless we're mistaken each one can't be linked to a civilization.
There are already 33 known wonders, so unless we're mistaken each one can't be linked to a civilization.
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Oh I completely forgot about that haha. Most questionable on the list is probably Shogunate Japan or the Ottomans then? Good guesses regardless.
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Humankind's base game also shipped with 10 cultures per era, but with 6 eras, so 60 civs in the base game. Civ 7 shipping with 30 (+ Shawnee) is disappointing. I still expect we'll be inundated with civs by the end of the game's life cycle, but options for paths through the 3 eras are going to feel sparser than I anticipated over the first year or two post release.
On the other hand, modders are going to have a lot of space to operate in, so maybe they'll fill the gap in the first year.
On the other hand, modders are going to have a lot of space to operate in, so maybe they'll fill the gap in the first year.
I mean, those 30 civs have more unique assets than all 90 or whatever civs HK has now so...even if I'm mildly disappointed, I'm not complaining.
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There's definitely two ways to look at it. The most ever, or the least-per-era ever, since there have to be three times as many to equal the previous total of active civs per era (on average).
I think in a way Firaxis painted themselves into this corner, between the separate-civs-per-age decision and the amount of detail per civ. It almost certainly is the most unit art at launch by a wide margin, but still adds up to an average of 10 civs per era.
I usually play with 10 or 12 civs in Civ VI, which would mean having the same civs in each game.
But on the other hand, I enjoy playing Old World with a much smaller roster of civs, and only 5 or 6 active at a time. So it's entirely possible I'll like Civ VII in this regard and find it adequate - just can't go into it expecting to have a Huge Beyond the Sword map with 18 civs active at once.
I think in a way Firaxis painted themselves into this corner, between the separate-civs-per-age decision and the amount of detail per civ. It almost certainly is the most unit art at launch by a wide margin, but still adds up to an average of 10 civs per era.
I usually play with 10 or 12 civs in Civ VI, which would mean having the same civs in each game.
But on the other hand, I enjoy playing Old World with a much smaller roster of civs, and only 5 or 6 active at a time. So it's entirely possible I'll like Civ VII in this regard and find it adequate - just can't go into it expecting to have a Huge Beyond the Sword map with 18 civs active at once.
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Are they? Each civ in Humankind had unique units and unique buildings. What additional extra assets are Civ 7 civs getting?
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Each will have at least a unique military unit and a unique civilian unit, confirmed tonight in Australia. They also will have unique or semi-unique visuals for standard units, as shown in this still from tonight's presentation.
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And unique visuals for every common building, it seems, albeit some assets/pieces of the buildings are shared.
I'm almost 100% sure that the Qing and the British are in. Mexico is debatable; it might not be included as everyone thinks. Between Russia and Germany, I'm more convinced of the former. Firstly, because they never leave Eastern Europe without representation, and secondly, while Russia can come from Mongolia, there is no historical path for Germany, based on what we've seen so far.
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