I agree with parkin, an early move off the main island would be a good idea, especially if the resources on our home island are as limited as they currently appear. We'll want to make a strong push for the important central cities.
Overall Strategy Thread
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azzaman333
meh
Which will still be after writing because we will research so damn quickly with 2 gold.
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
Yeah, we can probably afford to go Writing before Sailing. Indeed, we probably can't afford to delay Writing, because we'll need that Great Scientist ASAP. In a way I guess we are focussing on one sort-of-wonder: it's called the "Academy". 
pindicator
Emperor
Yes, an academy, but ONLY AFTER WRITING!
Sorry azz, I couldn't resist
Sorry azz, I couldn't resist
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
You'd be hard pressed to get an Academy before Writing. COL -> Caste System I guess, but that'd take longer as Writing's a prereq for COL.
COL -> Caste System I guess, but that'd take longer as Writing's a prereq for COL.
Trystero
Deity
Yeah, we can probably afford to go Writing before Sailing. Indeed, we probably can't afford to delay Writing, because we'll need that Great Scientist ASAP. In a way I guess we are focussing on one sort-of-wonder: it's called the "Academy".
Sure, with the gold to boost our beaker output, I can see Writing first. So the tech path proposed is: finish Mining > BW > The Wheel > AH > Pottery > Writing > Sailing?
The minimal tech path to Writing/Sailing would be finish Mining > The Wheel > Pottery > Writing > Sailing, but we'd lose the ability to chop/whip, and the discount from AH on Writing.
azzaman333
meh
Yes, an academy, but ONLY AFTER WRITING!
Sorry azz, I couldn't resist
If we could get an Academy before writing, I'd have no objections to that.
Without formally being proposed, something along those lines. Maybe switching AH and Pottery around.
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
Out of interest I checked, and I'm fairly sure that's impossible to get a Great Scientist in ANY way without researching Writing first. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I figured:If we could get an Academy before writing, I'd have no objections to that.
- Need Writing for Library
- Need Writing for Code of Laws (Caste System)
- Need Writing for Astronomy (Observatory)
- Need Writing for Superconductors (Laboratory)
- Need Writing for Literature (Great Library), Paper (University of Sankore), and all other wonders producing Great Scientist points, including national and world wonders
- Need a Great Scientist in the first place to found the corporations which produce Great Scientist points
Is there any other way of generating a Great Scientist that I've missed?
champinoman
Warlord
Find a stupid opponent to gift it to you?
Thats all I got
Thats all I got
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
True, I guess... but if you've got to do it yourself, there's no way but to research Writing, I believe.
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
Wait, I've got it! Capturing a wonder like the Great Library would generate Great Scientist points for you. You wouldn't need to have researched Writing to get a Great Scientist then.
So I guess war is the only way to do it without researching Writing. Of course, it's a hell of a lot easier to just research the tech in the first place.
So I guess war is the only way to do it without researching Writing. Of course, it's a hell of a lot easier to just research the tech in the first place.
Trystero
Deity
That sounds like an installment from madscientist's RPC series: "Monty, the illiterate", or something along those lines. 
champinoman
Warlord
This seemed like the best place for this as it concerns our overall strategy:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9089050&postcount=76
So, is he playing games with us or do we think he is legit? Surely a marble/stone combo would be a silly map design.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9089050&postcount=76
So, is he playing games with us or do we think he is legit? Surely a marble/stone combo would be a silly map design.
AlphaShard
Emperor
Oh I thought that would go better in a new thread for Espionage. But your right he could be playing games. It doesn't sound balanced to not give them commerce resources.
pindicator
Emperor
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who brought up the tech tree to see if an academy before writing could be done 
regarding obsolete's message, perhaps he is just using marble / stone as a placeholder for the resources he actually has? I dont' know why he would want to give away what he has available this early, even if it was Marble/Stone.
regarding obsolete's message, perhaps he is just using marble / stone as a placeholder for the resources he actually has? I dont' know why he would want to give away what he has available this early, even if it was Marble/Stone.
champinoman
Warlord
He (his team) has clearly discovered that every team has 2 land based monopoly resources. His claim that they have both stone and marble is believable to most because everyone else is just discovering they have 2 land based monopoly units. 90% truth is the best lie.
He just wants to make everyone think long and hard before they commit to any wonders.
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
AlphaShard
Emperor
Is Cultural, diplomatic and space victories really impossible for us to do?
We don't have Vasselage but can we do perment alliances?
I think we have alot of silk to be trading in the future.
We don't have Vasselage but can we do perment alliances?
I think we have alot of silk to be trading in the future.
azzaman333
meh
With the island as small as it is, yes, it's impossible to win culturally. It's too easy to raze coastal cities.
As I already said, you're not going to win diplo because you won't convince enough other teams to grab the votes.
And Space is very hard to win because of the ease of Spy sabotage.
As I already said, you're not going to win diplo because you won't convince enough other teams to grab the votes.
And Space is very hard to win because of the ease of Spy sabotage.
AlphaShard
Emperor
I understand were going to avoid most wonders but I wondered about the Parthenon for the +50% GP points.
