Palin's Birth Certificate Baby Mama Drama
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If I was a supermarket newspaper reader, my mind would be like spinning "ZOMG, so who was the father?!?!?"
But really, we don't care. She's not running for office, and not really an public icon, so she's entitled to her privacy. 2008 is OVER.
EDIT: Not trying to flame, just saying we all have a right to our skeletons, unless on trial.
But really, we don't care. She's not running for office, and not really an public icon, so she's entitled to her privacy. 2008 is OVER.
EDIT: Not trying to flame, just saying we all have a right to our skeletons, unless on trial.
Quackers
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That doesn't seem like the best attitude to take. Any reporter who actually tries to dig into this out of some sort of desire to damage Palin should be blackballed by the entire media industry, yes, but I don't see what would be wrong with a reputable reporter digging into it for the purposes of determining whether or not there is any truth to the claims just as much as I don't see what would've been wrong with a reputable reporter digging into the Obama birther claims to the extent of finding out that, yes, he was indeed born in Hawaii. Reporting weird angles objectively to divine some sort of truth is fine; it's when there's an agenda behind it that it isn't.
Evie
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If the people who believe Bush hid the 9-11 truth are Truthers, and the people who believe Obama's birth was outside the US Birthers, does that make people who believe in this Triggers?
Please, God, make the next US conspiracy theory involve nuts somehow...
Please, God, make the next US conspiracy theory involve nuts somehow...
Formaldehyde
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It seems pretty clear to me that investigative reporters should do just that. Most of the time whatever they are investigating won't pan out and even be worth reporting about. But they really won't know until they check it all out.
OTOH this wasn't even a reporter. It it an associate professor of journalism. Perhaps you should try writing hate letters to his employer to try to stop him from getting tenure. After all, who knows what he will investigate if he ever gets an assured job no matter what he investigates. With that sort of financial security, perhaps Professor Scharlott will decide to get to the bottom of criminal acts committed by GWB and his administration.
OTOH this wasn't even a reporter. It it an associate professor of journalism. Perhaps you should try writing hate letters to his employer to try to stop him from getting tenure. After all, who knows what he will investigate if he ever gets an assured job no matter what he investigates. With that sort of financial security, perhaps Professor Scharlott will decide to get to the bottom of criminal acts committed by GWB and his administration.
So if Sarah Palin isn't Trig's mother, then who is? Trig was (IIRC) born seven months before Bristol's kid. Unless he was a serious preemie AND she got preggers right away after Trig (After her first birth, at 18? Unlikely.) then that doesn't work, chronologically. What's the other option, that Palin's 14 year old carried a baby to term, and not a single person noticed?
Palin's a crazy person, but that doesn't mean conspiracy theories about her are credible. If you're going to suggest that someone is lying, then I think you should at least try and make some sort of coherent argument as to what actually happened; just saying "Her story sounds funny! She must be lying!" doesn't work.
But yes, I'm all for asking for the long form birth certificate, just for laughs.
Palin's a crazy person, but that doesn't mean conspiracy theories about her are credible. If you're going to suggest that someone is lying, then I think you should at least try and make some sort of coherent argument as to what actually happened; just saying "Her story sounds funny! She must be lying!" doesn't work.
But yes, I'm all for asking for the long form birth certificate, just for laughs.
Formaldehyde
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It is possible, albeit improbable, that Bristol immediately got pregnant again.
The only thing that makes it even remotely conceivable to me are all the inconsistencies in the stories of both Sarah and Brlstol Palin documented on the website in the OP.
Does it sound credible that Sarah's water broke in Texas while campaigning, but she took a flight back to Alaska followed by a 10 hour car trip after landing? That the flight attendants claimed that she didn't even look pregnant, much less that she was going to imminently deliver her child? If they had known her water had already broken, they wouldn't have even let her on the plane.
And nobody mentioned that her water had just broken to her aides in Texas?
That Sarah picked a backwater hospital with no prenatal care facilities to deliver a child with known genetic defects while bypassing many others which did along the way?
And there are also doubts about when Bristol delivered her child and when she conceived it.
Given the dearth of actual corroborable details regarding either birth, I don't think you can ridicule this as an obvious conspiracy theory. While it is highly improbable, and as I already pointed out there is strong evidence the first child was indeed Sarah's, it is not completely out of the question that Bristol is the mother of both children.
The only thing that makes it even remotely conceivable to me are all the inconsistencies in the stories of both Sarah and Brlstol Palin documented on the website in the OP.
Does it sound credible that Sarah's water broke in Texas while campaigning, but she took a flight back to Alaska followed by a 10 hour car trip after landing? That the flight attendants claimed that she didn't even look pregnant, much less that she was going to imminently deliver her child? If they had known her water had already broken, they wouldn't have even let her on the plane.
And nobody mentioned that her water had just broken to her aides in Texas?
That Sarah picked a backwater hospital with no prenatal care facilities to deliver a child with known genetic defects while bypassing many others which did along the way?
And there are also doubts about when Bristol delivered her child and when she conceived it.
Given the dearth of actual corroborable details regarding either birth, I don't think you can ridicule this as an obvious conspiracy theory. While it is highly improbable, and as I already pointed out there is strong evidence the first child was indeed Sarah's, it is not completely out of the question that Bristol is the mother of both children.
Evie
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Are you saying she stripped naked for the GOvernor of Hawai'i? It is easy enough to disguise your lack of pregnancy you know, especially if you've the financial resources of a major political machine and state at your disposal.
I'm noticing how often the Governor of Hawaii is involved in these conspiracies!
The whole, "did she look pregnant?" thing is really silly. It's quite possible to bring a pregnancy to 7 months (or even to term) and never show -- especially if you're not rail thin (aka, you're healthy) to begin with.
It was a Republican governor at the time.
Formaldehyde
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It was actually 8 months and Palin is quite thin despite her age. That's what makes her so sexually attractive to so many people.
And don't you think it is a bit odd that Palin's pregnancy wasn't even mentioned for so long? Don't you think that is the sort of thing that typically gets mentioned and is widely discussed when a female runs for any political office, much less the vice presidency?
It doesn't really matter how many months we're talking about, since my point was that a pregnant woman can carry to term without showing, or at least not showing when she's wearing clothing. While Palin is fit, she's also not parading around in a bikini everywhere (at least not that I've seen, and not photoshopped). A smaller bump isn't necessarily going to show unless she makes a point to show it.
I find the whole ordeal a bit odd, sure. I also don't have any expectation that a woman announce she's pregnant -- that is absolutely no one's concern when talking about a politician.
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Actually did she not use the terms that the doctors did know the DS situation and she "chose" to keep the baby and not abort. That would seem very controversial and "vote getting". too lazy to look up a cite.
Formaldehyde
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I think that is only true when the women are overweight. It is usually pretty obvious with thinner women in the last months of pregnancy. They are also typically not available as much for political commitments, especially given the need for prenatal care in situations such as this.
You seem to be missing the issue here. While you certainly have a point that a woman's pregnancy shouldn't factor into her suitability as a political candidate, with which I completely agree, I don't think I have ever heard of a case where it wasn't publicly revealed, especially in US politics. Have you?
It is more than "a bit odd", especially given Bristol's mysterious disappearance from school at the same time.
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