Pangea Map Leader/Civ Choices

[evonannoredars]

A lot of the distant lands-oriented civs (eg Spain) are going to be a lot less powerful, whereas Mongolia could demolish everyone at the Exploration military path.

I'm eyeing an Ibn Battuta game with the memento that grants gold per a number of revealed tiles to have an exploration-focused Antiquity game, but what civs/leaders do you think would be best (or most fun) to play as on the new Pangea Plus map?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Distant Lands still exist on a Pangea map, they are just unoccupied islands instead of an occupied landmass. I don't think that makes Spain inherently weaker. They can still found and conquer cities in Distant Lands, they will just have to do it to other colonizers instead of to the civs that would have started there.

 

[Siptah]

For aggressive games:
Charlemagne with Maurya into Mongolia
Frederick with Rome

Trade will be harder on Pangaea, and gold/food less plentiful if you don't have much coast. So I'm also eying Xerxes TA and going Khmer -> Songhai.

 

[evonannoredars]

Distant Lands still exist on a Pangea map, they are just unoccupied islands instead of an occupied landmass. I don't think that makes Spain inherently weaker. They can still found and conquer cities in Distant Lands, they will just have to do it to other colonizers instead of to the civs that would have started there.

Aye although the reduced amount of distant lands space means it's going to be harder to make use of distant lands bonuses

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Aye although the reduced amount of distant lands space means it's going to be harder to make use of distant lands bonuses

On smaller maps, certainly.

 

[CliffCo]

I cant see me playing pangea maps until at least next month when we hopefully get large maps.

 

[sixty4half]

I'm eyeing an Ibn Battuta game with the memento that grants gold per a number of revealed tiles to have an exploration-focused Antiquity game, but what civs/leaders do you think would be best (or most fun) to play as on the new Pangea Plus map?

You'll have to be careful with that to never use his Share Map endevour. The momento only gives gold for tiles discovered by Units.



I'll probably go with one of the Fred's as I already played a few games with Charlie. Fred/Persia seems like it'll be TONS of free Immortals

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

This might be the first Pangea map I will enjoy playing. While the "Distant Lands are empty" fantasy is unrealistic, it will probably be more fun for me as a peaceful builder/expander

 

[CliffCo]

This might be the first Pangea map I will enjoy playing. While the "Distant Lands are empty" fantasy is unrealistic, it will probably be more fun for me as a peaceful builder/expander

With the current map sizes i feel it will be harder to play peacefully than it does on the continents plus map due to less and more condensed land area.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

With the current map sizes i feel it will be harder to play peacefully than it does on the continents plus map due to less and more condensed land area.

I don't think it's that much less. It appears that they are scavenging land from Distant Lands to make Home Lands bigger to accomodate the extra civs.

 

[CliffCo]

I don't think it's that much less. It appears that they are scavenging land from Distant Lands to make Home Lands bigger to accomodate the extra civs.

I haven't tried it and wont until they introduce larger maps as i'm usually peaceful too and prefer defense over offense, to play peacefully i think you would have to reduce the amount of AI in the game to only 4 or 5 on the largest map currently available.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I haven't tried it and wont until they introduce larger maps as i'm usually peaceful too and prefer defense over offense, to play peacefully i think you would have to reduce the amount of AI in the game to only 4 or 5 on the largest map currently available.

Large and Huge maps are also on the docket for the June update

 

[Nikolai II]

This might be the first Pangea map I will enjoy playing. While the "Distant Lands are empty" fantasy is unrealistic, it will probably be more fun for me as a peaceful builder/expander

This is me too.

 

[Leucarum]

In a way it kind of increases the value of coastal start biases... Aksum and Isabella gonna have an easier time with the distant lands..

 

[uppi]

Distant Lands still exist on a Pangea map, they are just unoccupied islands instead of an occupied landmass. I don't think that makes Spain inherently weaker. They can still found and conquer cities in Distant Lands, they will just have to do it to other colonizers instead of to the civs that would have started there.

I think it does make Spain weaker. Without civs native to the distant lands, you won't have juicy cities filled with wonders to conquer there. The other colonizers will create some towns, but towns tend to be easily conquered anyway, even without Spain's distant lands combat bonus.

Which is fine. Not every civ has to be equally strong on every map.

 

[stealth_nsk]

In a way it kind of increases the value of coastal start biases... Aksum and Isabella gonna have an easier time with the distant lands..

Unless they start at the top, bottom or in a middle bay. I don't think it's that much different from Continents.

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

How on earth is the Exploration Age Military Legacy Path going to work if there aren’t Settlements to conquer in the Distant Lands to start with?

 

[sixty4half]

How on earth is the Exploration Age Military Legacy Path going to work if there aren’t Settlements to conquer in the Distant Lands to start with?

You could conquer the islands after they get settled. Naval conquest is pretty easy in civ games.

 

[Leucarum]

How on earth is the Exploration Age Military Legacy Path going to work if there aren’t Settlements to conquer in the Distant Lands to start with?

You really don't need to conquer for it. There's enough settlement limit in exploration that you can easily score it peacefully on a lot of maps. If anything with less land this might make it more needed to have some conflict.

 

[Kmart_Elvis]

How on earth is the Exploration Age Military Legacy Path going to work if there aren’t Settlements to conquer in the Distant Lands to start with?

It certainly won't be as easy as having already established civs there, but other civs from your homeland will create new settlements there.