PBEM: A Soaring Spirit
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I never knew you could use shift+d to disband a city if the cheat menu was activated.
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"The Lydians have undertaken The Long Wall!"
So, perhaps, we would have been better off with wonders "disabled". We could rectify that. I suppose it would take quite a bit of the fun out of the game if the Lydians build most of the wonders.
Spartans take Asine.
In Carthage a great bronze colossus has been erected over the entrance to the harbor. The prestige of this great building will, the aristocrats of Carthage hope, greatly increase the trade of their great city.
So, perhaps, we would have been better off with wonders "disabled". We could rectify that. I suppose it would take quite a bit of the fun out of the game if the Lydians build most of the wonders.
Spartans take Asine.
In Carthage a great bronze colossus has been erected over the entrance to the harbor. The prestige of this great building will, the aristocrats of Carthage hope, greatly increase the trade of their great city.
No news from the Etruscans.
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Athenians found the colony of Zancle on the Sicilian side of the Strait of Messina.
If anyone is planning to travel from (151,79) to (189,77) (2 squares south of Corcyra), be advised that an Athenian Transport is at (189,77), so you won't be able to end your crossing beside land. Please say something if you stop a ship at (151,79) next turn.
Why do you expect the Lydians to build a lot of wonders? Once we can start trading we'll speed through the tech tree much quicker than the Lydians.
Something I've remembered which may not be widely known is that triremes ending their turn in a city built on a 1 tile island can be lost at sea. I don't know if this was corrected in MGE, but I thought I'd mention it since there are 1 tile island city sites in this scenario.
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Athenians found the colony of Zancle on the Sicilian side of the Strait of Messina.
If anyone is planning to travel from (151,79) to (189,77) (2 squares south of Corcyra), be advised that an Athenian Transport is at (189,77), so you won't be able to end your crossing beside land. Please say something if you stop a ship at (151,79) next turn.
Why do you expect the Lydians to build a lot of wonders? Once we can start trading we'll speed through the tech tree much quicker than the Lydians.
Something I've remembered which may not be widely known is that triremes ending their turn in a city built on a 1 tile island can be lost at sea. I don't know if this was corrected in MGE, but I thought I'd mention it since there are 1 tile island city sites in this scenario.
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McM, a few weeks back I made a post over at the civforums, to see if anyone had any interest. So far there's been very little response.
I'm hoping if some old players show up there would be at least a small active group. We could throw another game up if someone should show up.
I wonder if we could find Jerec. He was one of the few who hadn't lost heart after the sad loss of Civilionaut. Damn I miss those times.
I'm hoping if some old players show up there would be at least a small active group. We could throw another game up if someone should show up.
I wonder if we could find Jerec. He was one of the few who hadn't lost heart after the sad loss of Civilionaut. Damn I miss those times.
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All is quite in the Peloponnese.
The western Mediterranean is quiet, too.
(I made the horrible mistake, in my excitement of playing, of hitting enter at the end of the Phoenician turn. So I had to begin from the autosave, and due to randomness a village turned from a new city to a barbarian. I gleaned absolutely no strategic information from seeing the start of the Etruscan turn.)
The western Mediterranean is quiet, too.
(I made the horrible mistake, in my excitement of playing, of hitting enter at the end of the Phoenician turn. So I had to begin from the autosave, and due to randomness a village turned from a new city to a barbarian. I gleaned absolutely no strategic information from seeing the start of the Etruscan turn.)
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And Prof. Garfield, I don't really know. They have a lot of cities, so potentially they could have quite a head start. We shall see!
Etruscans found Aleria
Etruscan Thessalian Cavalry meets Spartan cavalry.
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Athenian Strategos dies on the beaches of Melos.
Etruscan Thessalian Cavalry meets Spartan cavalry.
No world events.
Athenian Strategos dies on the beaches of Melos.
@Ingvar
"I made the horrible mistake" - Ouch, that's gotta smart!
I will see if I can find e-mail addresses for Jerec or any of the other guys. Those were indeed good times, playing multiple PBEMs meant there was always something to look forwards to in the morning or after work. Civilionaut and Battosi are both fondly remembered!
@Prof. Garfield
"Athenian Strategos dies on the beaches of Melos." - Unlucky. I would estimate the chances of losing a Strategos are around 10-15% when attacking a fortress.
Playing my turns now. I'm on Jury service this week and next but the Judge has given us the morning off to attend to other business.
"I made the horrible mistake" - Ouch, that's gotta smart!
I will see if I can find e-mail addresses for Jerec or any of the other guys. Those were indeed good times, playing multiple PBEMs meant there was always something to look forwards to in the morning or after work. Civilionaut and Battosi are both fondly remembered!
@Prof. Garfield
"Athenian Strategos dies on the beaches of Melos." - Unlucky. I would estimate the chances of losing a Strategos are around 10-15% when attacking a fortress.
Playing my turns now. I'm on Jury service this week and next but the Judge has given us the morning off to attend to other business.
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Cytherea captured.
No news from Carthage.
Garfield, you had some phenomenal misfortune. Once a strategos becomes veteran, they can even destroy forts without taking much harm. I just took one out with the Strategos still green. I actually like the fact strategoses are handed out randomly, aside from the one Sparta starts out with. Was that one to make up for the fact all of Spartas cities, aside from Sparta itself, are almost useless at the start due to distance - and there fore corruption? Corinth might actually become a ruling power thanks to those two early strategoses. (Naturally it'll mostly be on McMonkey's brilliant play, but those two can hardly hurt!)
I will be leaving for London - then Morocco - very early in the morning. I hope my absence does not sour the mood! I'm starting to feel the old thrill of expansion and conquest again, haven't felt that in years!
No news from Carthage.
Garfield, you had some phenomenal misfortune. Once a strategos becomes veteran, they can even destroy forts without taking much harm. I just took one out with the Strategos still green. I actually like the fact strategoses are handed out randomly, aside from the one Sparta starts out with. Was that one to make up for the fact all of Spartas cities, aside from Sparta itself, are almost useless at the start due to distance - and there fore corruption? Corinth might actually become a ruling power thanks to those two early strategoses. (Naturally it'll mostly be on McMonkey's brilliant play, but those two can hardly hurt!)
I will be leaving for London - then Morocco - very early in the morning. I hope my absence does not sour the mood! I'm starting to feel the old thrill of expansion and conquest again, haven't felt that in years!
Corinth has been dealt with a good hand, but looking at the city & unit numbers it appears the Ionians are faring the best. It is worth bearing in mind that once the Persian Invasions begin it will be the Ionians that first bear the brunt!
No news from the Etruscans.
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Athenian ships occupy (151,79).
The Strategos loss was, indeed, unfortunate. I played enough of the scenario in single player to know that vet Strategos do well against fortresses. I considered attacking some barb units to make the Strategos a veteran, but there weren't any close by, so I decided to risk it.
Have a good trip, Northerner.
No world events.
Athenian ships occupy (151,79).
The Strategos loss was, indeed, unfortunate. I played enough of the scenario in single player to know that vet Strategos do well against fortresses. I considered attacking some barb units to make the Strategos a veteran, but there weren't any close by, so I decided to risk it.
Have a good trip, Northerner.
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OOC question. I haven't looked at this scenario for quite some time, and currently I'm having issues getting MGE to run on my computer (and it seems all the wizards on the Civ2 Tech Support forum who found ways to make it work on later OS' haven't logged in for sometime), but, in this scenario, the Athenians and Ionians are two separate civ's. But I've read a lot of sources that say Athens was an Ionian city, or at least was refounded out of the old Mycenaean city by Ionians after the Ancient Dark Age. I'm a bit confused. I'm only asking for clarification, not trying to make a challenge or start an argument, mind.
I don't know much about Ancient Greece, but I can tell you how I run Civ 2. I bought a 32 bit XP license a few years ago and use Oracle Virtual Box https://www.virtualbox.org/ to run a copy of XP on my PC when I need it. Civ 2 classic and MGE work as intended, Unlimited. ToT worked until I tried the TOTPP, but I didn't try very hard to get that to work.
This solution is fairly straightforward and should work forever (just move the virtual hard drive to your new computer and install Virtual Box), so you might find it worth it to buy a copy of XP if you don't already have one. I suggest virtualizing a Linux distribution like Ubuntu to make sure your hardware is good enough before buying a copy of XP.
If you don't want to shell out for a copy of XP, you can try it on a copy of 32 bit Windows 7 here https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/#downloads as long as you don't mind backing up your files and resetting the system every 90 days.
This solution is fairly straightforward and should work forever (just move the virtual hard drive to your new computer and install Virtual Box), so you might find it worth it to buy a copy of XP if you don't already have one. I suggest virtualizing a Linux distribution like Ubuntu to make sure your hardware is good enough before buying a copy of XP.
If you don't want to shell out for a copy of XP, you can try it on a copy of 32 bit Windows 7 here https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/#downloads as long as you don't mind backing up your files and resetting the system every 90 days.
CORINTHIANS
Trachinia captured
IONIANS
No news
Have a great holiday Ingvar!
@Patine
I would need to refresh my memory about the Athenians/Ionians. At various times the Ionian cities may well have been part of the Athenian empire and they may well have shared a common heritage. I think I broke them down into two separate factions for gameplay reasons.
Trachinia captured
IONIANS
No news
Have a great holiday Ingvar!
@Patine
I would need to refresh my memory about the Athenians/Ionians. At various times the Ionian cities may well have been part of the Athenian empire and they may well have shared a common heritage. I think I broke them down into two separate factions for gameplay reasons.
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Spending a night at Gatwick before flying on northwards. Will see about squeezing the turn in tomorrow afternoon or evening, when I'm not busy cleaning camel piss and squashed bugs out of my travelling clothes.
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