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Planning cIV BTS MTDG III

Discussion in 'Civ4 -ISDG 2012' started by Sommerswerd, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. DNK

    DNK Member

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    Is anyone debating these settings:

    -ancient start
    -normal speed
    -unrestricted leaders
    -no tech trading
    -no random events/huts
    -not always war
    -one instance leaders

    ???

    Seems like if that's what we're all sort of agreed on, we can get a few polls for "big issues":

    -nukes (in/out)
    -corps (in/out)
    -spies/missions (all/no miss/none)
    -BUG/etc mod (all/BUG-only/double move only/none)
    -map preferences/makers (whatever)
     
  2. OzzyKP

    OzzyKP Emperor

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    You're right, I haven't really played in a demo game before. We played with a 24 hour turn timer (quicker at the beginning). Should we expect a 48 hour or longer timer for this game?
     
  3. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    24 at first (maybe) but then 48 once anything interesting starts happening is what i would expect. I hope we can manage without anything longer than 48 hrs:yuck:
     
  4. OzzyKP

    OzzyKP Emperor

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    I dunno about unrestricted leaders. Has that been discussed? I think I'd be against that.
     
  5. Sian

    Sian Emperor

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    .. why'd you be against unrestricted ... that'll mean that there would be only 4-6 (depending on temper/playstyle) viable choices for a competitive game, while unrestricted have way more viable choices, both in Leaders and Civs

    Another thing that should be in mind ... known starting screenshot before or after civ picking?
     
  6. OT4E

    OT4E Warlord

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    Our opinion on the settings:
    - nukes (on/off) OFF
    - spies or the civ-wide esp missions (no spies, nix the two missions, or all is still ok) ALL OK, may be no changing civics
    - huts/events (on/off) OFF
    - corporations (on/off) ON
    - known tech bonus (vanilla 30% or higher, like 100%) DEFAULT
    - BUG mod (included/not or included without # cities) NO
    - double-move mod (on/off) OFF, gentlemen agreement, rules and judging
    - always war (on/off) ON
    - tech trading (on/off) OFF

    - engineered starts (yes/no) is it advanced start? then NO
    - wrap (none, 1-axis, 2-axis) 2-axis
    - mirrored starts (yes/no) NO
    - type of script (donut/pangaea/continents/archipelago/etc) something special
    - map makers if possible
    - restricted leaders (on/off) ON
    - can have many instances of a leader (leaders exclusive to one team, or not) YES
    - method of assignment (....)... PICK

    Personally, I am not sharing the paranoia around spy missions. The situation when you have small civ without chance to win but trying to ruin your gameplay is wrong itself. It is failture of diplomacy, strategy and position. If it is so small and weak it cant really do much harm. Producing spies is way expensive, spending huge amount of EP without big empire is impossible, and nobody cancelled counter-intelligence. If this small country is so problematic, just destroy it.

    But in our games we usually dissallow using chirsto-rendender to switch someones civics. I have no problem in not using this possibility or disabling this mission for entire game by gentlemen agreement.

    About mapscript, I hope it will be not mirrored completely. Personally, I prefer to have random map at all, but I know it can be too unfair. So a bit tweaked start is the best solution imho. The key word is "a bit".
    I have once tried donut splitted into the continents by few small channels.

    OT4E
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  7. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    'Engineered start' is something I mentioned in passing on RB site. I'm not sure if that's where everyone is getting that setting from, but if it is then what it means is each team will custom make its own starting BFC, with some allowance (like points)for resources, tile types, etc. It does not seem to be very popular, but I suggested it because alot of virtual ink was being spilled about starts being unfair, mapmakers being poor, etc.

    Personally I would prefer a random Pangea map and lets go:)
     
  8. OT4E

    OT4E Warlord

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    Funny idea if you are bored by everything else... Seems to be very hard to balance though

    I would prefer to avoid using any mod if possible.

    OT4E
     
  9. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    What do you mean by balance? Everyone decides what they want before the game starts. Then the mapmaker puts it in. Or do you mean balance how much each terrain type/resource is worth? Anyway it was just an idea, I doubt we are doing it.:)
     
  10. OT4E

    OT4E Warlord

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    Yes, but may be it is easier than I think. Cant imagine trading forests for the gold mine or landmass. :rolleyes:
     
  11. X-Worf

    X-Worf Chieftain

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    Thats right. I think the CivForum.de will participate.
     
  12. OzzyKP

    OzzyKP Emperor

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    Great! :goodjob:
     
  13. Tjured

    Tjured Chieftain

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    Hello civfantatics :hatsoff:

    A new Team Democracy Game! *happy*
    civforum.de will play definitiv in the game :)

    Sure!



    My opinion, the map are to create by hand. Is definitely better

    (sry, when my english isn't excellent)
     
  14. Caledorn

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    You are forgiven, as I remember our talks about that ;) Of course I want to play :cool:

    Perhaps we should create a separate thread for recruiting? It's a bit weird that we're the site "responsible" for this MTDG, when mostly all the other sites already have large teams with lots of team signups already. Perhaps a headline on the CFC frontpage or something for the team signups would be a good idea? :)
     
  15. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    You read my mind:D. I sent just such a request to the site Moderators a few minutes ago. So now we just wait patiently:yup:
     
  16. Bowsling

    Bowsling Deity

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    Should we ask CDZ if they want to field another team?
     
  17. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    CDZ has already been asked. It doesn't look like they are going to make it.

    Good news! Looks like Polish language forum will join the fun.
     
  18. Caledorn

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    Yay! :D

    We can perhaps offer anyone from CDZ who wants to join to pick a team if they feel like joining. This should go for just about anyone I expect though. :)

    There was something I wanted to ask - and that was the issue of team forums. Should we ask the teams to use the CFC forums for discussing tactics etc, or should each site use their own forums? As far as I can tell it would be easier for the after-game if everything was gathered here, but can we expect the teams to use the CFC forums for the sake of talking about this specific game?

    Also - I believe we need a team captain for CFC (count me out of this one), unless you are going to take that role, Sommerswerd? :)
     
  19. Bowsling

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    I think that's a matter for election once we get the private forum. Not that it matters much, anyway.

    We also need a team name.
     
  20. 2metraninja

    2metraninja Defender of Nabaxica

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    I think we should no look any further as we have already a team captain and that's Sommerswerd. I cant imagine someone more devoted and capable of being our CFC captain.
     

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