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[GenghisK]

Originally posted by Thunderfall

Actually, Genghis Khan had a quite majestic look, according to some historians.

For sure. Perfection belongs to this world Look at me

 

[Immortal]

So far six out of those eight new Civs in the expansion pack are known. These six Civs are:
Mongols (UU: Keshik)
Carthaginians (from MP setup screen)
Spanish (UU: Conquistador)
Vikings (UU: Berserk)
Koreans (UU: Hwacha)
Celts (King Brennus)
The other two Civs are probably the Turks and the Mayas/Incas. Join the discussion

Took the words right outta my mouth TF!!!!

 

[Beloyar]

The two remaining civs will be Australia and Brazil.

Why should America be the only modern civ in the game?

I am not sure about the UUs, but Canadians might get pissed.

IMO, Ethiopia and Inca would have been better.

 

[kring]

What would be nice would be having an option for a male or female leaderhead for each civ: Napoleon or Joan for example. I know you can change your sex as it is now for leader purposes, but you would still have Joan's leaderhead if you chose male gender.

 

[Immortal]

Originally posted by kring
What would be nice would be having an option for a male or female leaderhead for each civ: Napoleon or Joan for example. I know you can change your sex as it is now for leader purposes, but you would still have Joan's leaderhead if you chose male gender.

I would definitely want that, I wished from the release of Civ III they would have included this feature. Too bad they aren't doing it though

 

[Thunderfall]

Originally posted by Immortal
Took the words right outta my mouth TF!!!!

hehe... at leasts I bothered to include justification for each Civ.

 

[Richard III]

I'm already reaching on my bookshelf to "the History of the Korean Civilization," but in case anyone is faster, does anyone have a clue what the Hwacha is?

Seems like a heavy bias towards Medieval and Ancient UU's, though.

And on this note, if Australia works, why not Vietnam, or Brazil, or Argentina?

Why does the new civ have to be a white Dominion? I, like many before me, am quite happy to accept that Iraq is really Bablyon, the Aztecs = Mexico and that Canada is a part of the English civ for the purposes of the game. The line of descent is obvious (but not so obvious with the US, for the simple reason that they strove to create a different civ, which is why a Bolivarian Chile-Argentina or a Brazil would be cool).

R.III

 

[defacto_ruler]

as for my 2 cents worth, id say the carth's UU was an elephant of some sort. Teh Carths did invade rome with an army of ele's after all. But then again, the indians have an elephant.....
beats me to pieces

 

[-proletarian-]

Originally posted by Beloyar
The two remaining civs will be Australia and Brazil.

Why should America be the only modern civ in the game?

I am not sure about the UUs, but Canadians might get pissed.

IMO, Ethiopia and Inca would have been better.

Umm, no.

Australia and Brazil aren't getting within 10 miles of being included in this game.

 

[Novaya Havoc]

Well, I mean, if you think about it there really AREN'T any modern civs aside from America:

Ancient:
Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome, China, Persia, Aztecs, India

Medieval:
Japan, Zulu, France

Industrial:
Germany, Russia, England

Modern:
USA

Granted, China and India also have maintained strong identities throughout all following eras, but were most notable in ancient times (the only powers of their respective regions), while France and Japan also kept power after the Medieval times.

The Zulu and Aztec are misplaced in time, but fitting in progress and warfare ability.

I mean, the game is already imbalanced when it comes to the ancient-modern scale. The only nations we can say are truly "modern" in ANY sense are USA, Russia, Germany, Japan, China, England, and France, but the majority of them (save Germany and the USA, if you ask me) are kept for their older historical influence. Germany was not unified for the longest time whist Russia remained a backwards nation until Peter I and Catherine II (1700s).

Of the new civs:

Ancient:
Celts, Carganithans, Mongols

Medieval:
Vikings, Koreans

Industrial:
Spanish

Modern:
?

I would place the Ottomans in the Industrial-Modern era, depending on how you look at it, and the Incas in the Ancient. But those are just my picks.

I do like the creepy idea of having Iraq being a modern power... <LOL> That would just be crazy. Heh heh.

-Ben

 

[siredgar]

No screenshots of the editor yet??? WHAT ABOUT THE EDITOR?!!

 

[Thunderfall]

Originally posted by siredgar
No screenshots of the editor yet??? WHAT ABOUT THE EDITOR?!!

We should see lots of new screenies (and maybe videos) in the next few days when they show the game at E3. E3 is from May 22 to May 24.

Be patient.

PS: Anyone going to E3? I heard the 3-day pass costs like $200.

 

[Ezekyel]

The dog next to the Spanish UU is a war mastiff (mastin de guerra) and was used by the conquistadores in the battles against the indians.

Just a tip!

 

[ReelPlaya]

Man, I can't wait til December!

Can't they release a beta version or something? (I would buy that bloody thing)

 

[wohmongarinf00l]

i already feel swamped with too many european civilisations.

 

[Evie]

Originally posted by Novaya Havoc
Well, I mean, if you think about it there really AREN'T any modern civs aside from America:

Ancient:
Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome, China, Persia, Aztecs, India

Medieval:
Japan, Zulu, France

Industrial:
Germany, Russia, England

Modern:
USA

Granted, China and India also have maintained strong identities throughout all following eras, but were most notable in ancient times (the only powers of their respective regions), while France and Japan also kept power after the Medieval times.

The Zulu and Aztec are misplaced in time, but fitting in progress and warfare ability.

I mean, the game is already imbalanced when it comes to the ancient-modern scale. The only nations we can say are truly "modern" in ANY sense are USA, Russia, Germany, Japan, China, England, and France, but the majority of them (save Germany and the USA, if you ask me) are kept for their older historical influence. Germany was not unified for the longest time whist Russia remained a backwards nation until Peter I and Catherine II (1700s).

Of the new civs:

Ancient:
Celts, Carganithans, Mongols

Medieval:
Vikings, Koreans

Industrial:
Spanish

Given that the Civ Medieval age last until well after the caravel is discovered and that Spain really started going out of the scene from 1588 onward, I'd say the Spanish belongs in medieval (even though they were only united late in the medieval era).

Admitedly, the Civ science system is screwed up ; you discover steam engines (useables ones) and the ability to make railways shortly after creating your first galleons (which are available at the same time as frigate).

In reality, galleons were used in the late 16th and early 17th century while the Frigate was an 18th century ship pretty much and steam railways appeared only in the early 19th century. Indicentaly, with Steam Power being the first tech you get out of the third age, democracy being medieval make sense.

Problem is really that they tried to cram too much into the medieval age - there should be a fifth age, based on the renaissance and the few centuries after.


Modern:
?

I would place the Ottomans in the Industrial-Modern era, depending on how you look at it, and the Incas in the Ancient. But those are just my picks.

I do like the creepy idea of having Iraq being a modern power... <LOL> That would just be crazy. Heh heh.

-Ben

ADmitedly it might be funny. Or upgrade all the nations which survived into the modern age with a second UU to depict that, while increasing the power of nations which didn't to survive their actual ages...

 

[JBearIt]

Originally posted by WarlordMatt

...
I expected the conquistador to replace explorers and require saltpeter and iron with an A/D/M of like 3/3/2 and cost more shields than a normal explorer. But they turned out as some knight guy carrying a spear with a dog beside him. That's pretty sad.
.

Don't forget that a Conquistador was not just the name of the soldiers/adventurers who helped conquer lands in the Americas; it was first applied as a name to the soldiers who took part in the "Reconquista" - the retaking of Spain from the Moors. Although finished in 1492, much of the action took place during the 11th-14th centuries. Guns were hardly a common weapon during that time. So its very appropriate that the conquistador be an alternative to a knight rather than an explorer or some mounted unit with a gun.

 

[Richard III]

Some posters seem to be confusing the whole issue of modern vs. medieval civ in life and in the game. Spain is not "industrial" for civ purposes since its UU would (apparently) give it highest odds of a golden age in the medieval period.

I don't know about everyone else, but when I'm complaining about the lack of "modernity," I mean modern UUs to balance the game out. ALL of the new civs and UUs described so far seem to be medieval or ancient. Perhaps the Turks will have something new, but I doubt it. If there are any turks.

I also hope they break free from the "extra dollar" model of UUs, where each UU really seems to be nothing more than a mutant of a real unit. I love the War Elephant because it's different: the fact that you don't need iron/horses is a game advantage distinct from a simple defence bonus. So, for example, I would hope they have an Inca scout/worker combo or something instead of a useless military unit with a 1 point bonus to liven things up, or the Conquistador could have a marine function as well.

R.III

 

[spincrus]

Ottomans should be classified as Medieval and Industrial, for sure, however the Turkish history extends way back to the Huns, which is pre-medieval...

However, the time a Turkish state was at its peak was on the Ottomans, since the Huns had trouble after Attila died, but the Ottomans continued for centuries...

So, I would place the Turks (if they even exist in the game, and if they don't, thats a BIG SHAME for Firaxis, I tell you) into the category of "Medieval".

 

[siredgar]

These UU's suck.