Poll: Most Evil and Murderous Leader of All Time

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  • Joseph Stalin

    Votes: 29 22.3%
  • Vladimir Lenin

    Votes: 3 2.3%
  • Adolph Hitler

    Votes: 40 30.8%
  • Pol Pot

    Votes: 25 19.2%
  • Mao Zedong

    Votes: 14 10.8%
  • Ghengis Khan

    Votes: 13 10.0%
  • Vlad Tepes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Napoleon Bonaparte

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Nero

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Caligula

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • Idi Amin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kim Il Sung

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • Total voters
    130
By percentage of population killed, Pol Pot comes out ahead ( > 30%), with Leopold II of Belgium a close second (atrocities committed in Congo killed 40% of the population). By numbers, Stalin killed 50 millions by higher estimates, Mao and Hitler 20 - 30 million (include deaths in famines and war)
 
if we go by purely the highest estimate of deaths, then Mao wins because it tops 100 million. but even i think such an estimate is highly unlikely, so i would say mao, stalin, hitler, pol pot tied. genghis kahn was pretty bad too, but he was a barbarian, and nicer than other barbs... if you got on his good side (i.e., don't act like a traitor to your first boss, don't kill innocent emmissaries, be good and surrender, etc.)... Tamerlame was worse in my opinion - ever heard of the tower of skulls?
 
How about killing entire tribes and raping their women? Or pedophilia?
People should learn about a Religion from its followers, not from somebody who hates it.

To leave you with some food for thought:
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
The word 'Muslim' in brackets means it was recorded in the Salih Muslim hadith collection. Salih Muslim only contains the most reliable and authentic of the Hadith...
 
Hitler, No Doubt. He may not have killed the most, but the absolute cold buerocratic efficiency with which it was carried out on every small level beats the random mobs of Mao or the high-level purges of Stalin by a LONG shot.
I Hope that B*stard is burning in hell.
 
How about killing entire tribes and raping their women? Or pedophilia?
Pedophilia is a form of violence?

He was not a pedophile. Muhammed was a man of God.
Well, that whole point is debated. It is known that Muhammad was betrothed to Aisha when she was around 6 or 7, but her age at consummation is debated. Some sources put it as young as 9, while others put it later.
(Conveniently for the bigots, this particular aspect of Aisha's life has, in the West, overshadowed her role as one of Islam's foremost scholars, something which you'd think contradicts the "Muslims-hate-all-women" rhetoric...)

Hitler, No Doubt. He may not have killed the most, but the absolute cold buerocratic efficiency with which it was carried out on every small level beats the random mobs of Mao or the high-level purges of Stalin by a LONG shot.
I Hope that B*stard is burning in hell.
Ah, so now the capitalist acknowledges morality.What if I told you that the Third Reich made Hitler a very, very rich man? Then it's just good business sense... :rolleyes:
 
Hitler was by far the most murderous. Now if he had focused his Holocaust on Freemasons, I would not hate him as much. Death to the Freemason scum.
 
Ah, so now the capitalist acknowledges morality.What if I told you that the Third Reich made Hitler a very, very rich man? Then it's just good business sense... :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:
First of all, on Capitalist principle, I cannot alow you to besmirch our name by saying that Hitler was a capitalist becasue the Third Reich could be looked at as a buisness. Hitler was the state, for all intents and purposes. Therefore, Hitler being rich is the state being rich, which is what we want to AVOID.
Second: Morality. I have always considered myself very moral. I do honestly think that many buisnesses are moneygrubibing corporations (insurence companies, wink wink). BUT we cannot allow the government to step in to support the State's conceptions of "Morality". Morality is determined by society, and a buisness will respond in such courses, as long as Labor Unions exist to counter the buisnessman's version of morality to doinate. I've always said that without labor unions, it would be 1800's capitalism, which was really stretching it. Labor unions make it so that the government no longer has to intervene.


I need to post some sort of manifesto so that people are clear on what I mean.
 
Of course, the fact that some people killed 8-9 times more people than him doesn't matter at all.

How many people do you know sent millions of people into gas chambers, and then, get into the bloodiest war of modern times? Add on pre-WWII conquests casualties, his suicide, and modern Neo-Nazi killings and it's Hitler in #1.(although, this is one of the times where you DON'T want to be voted for.;))
 
If we compare Hitler with Stalin with very inexact statistics:

Hitler- 27 million Soviets killed in WWII (which I will blame mostly on Hitler);
8-9.5 million in concentration camps; a very conservative estimate of 3 million other Europeans killed in the war (a good number of these being ethnic Poles).
We can hold Hitler reasonably responsible for nearly 40 million deaths; that's over 3 1/2 million killed a year in his 11 years in power.

Stalin- The largest number I have seen attributed to Stalin is 60 million dead (although it may have been closer to 20 million).
Thats just under 2 million a year in Stalins 31 years in power; given the wildest estimates of deaths he caused.
 
Stalin- The largest number I have seen attributed to Stalin is 60 million dead (although it may have been closer to 20 million).
Thats just under 2 million a year in Stalins 31 years in power; given the wildest estimates of deaths he caused.

I've personally never heard any more than 20m attributed to him, and even that isnt universally accepted by a long chalk.
 
I think that Hitler was worse than Stalin even though he killed less people. He wanted to put a reign of terror, fascism, and race war over the earth. His grand dream of destruction made his look very Antichrist-esque. Stalin did some things right. He built railroads and industrialized Russia. I'm not condoning him, but I'd say he's SLIGHTLY better than Hitler (not saying much)

Summing up good things Hitler did:

  1. [*]Volkswagen cars (Beetle)
    [*]Work
    [*]Autobahn
    [*]Needed Rails
    [*]Needed Dams
    [*]Jet Propulsion
    [*]Rocket Engines

Conclusion, they did both good & bad things....
 
In my view, Hitler is #1 with Mao in second.

Hitler was commiting genocide (not all that uncommon, sadly. Genocide happens daily but most people seem to only know of Hitler) and, I suppose, you could blame a good chunk of WWII deaths on him.

Mao killed millions in a pretty sensless matter. Stalin was brutal as well, but at least he helped turn the USSR into a super power, even if he was pretty monstrous. Mao seems to have help China back in many ways.
 
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