Pornography for 14 year olds

[Lillefix]

I want to know what people think about pornography and age limits. What inspired me was a comment in the newspaper the other day by a woman who wants to legalise some kinds of pornography to 14 year olds(and upwards obviously). She says that much pornography is discriminating towards women because pornography is made by men for men. But she says there is no reason it shouldn't be possible to make government sponsored "age appropiate" porn and legalise it for minors. What exactly she means by "age appropiate", I'm not really sure. But something realistic and not demeaning towards women I assume.

Personally, I find it to be an interesting suggestion.

Anyway, two Norwegian MPs(representing the two most annoying and far fetched ideologies in the parliament, christians and socialists), were asked about this. They didn't like it because pornography is demeaning to women(according the christian) and represents unhealthy body ideals(the socialist).

Implying that pornography is inherently demeaning to women is just dumb in my opinion. And that thing about body ideals, I find meaningless. Judging by the front covers, teen magazines are far worse than anything when it comes to these things.

So any thoughts?

commentary(in Norwegian):
http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikker/article3429077.ece

 

[JohnRM]

/me reacts irrationally offended and screaming at the top of my lungs as to how you could possibly think this is okay and that you are godless chump!

Seriously, do we even have to discuss this? It could never be accepted and even so, it ought to up to the parents to regulate for their children. And you know that, at some point, if this kind of thing should ever exist, it is only a matter of time before some super-liberal decides to introduce it into schools. We've seen the results of that kind of thing thus far.

 

[Lillefix]

The main point of the article is actually that we should bring this into the schools.

And yes, I find it to be a very valid discussion.

 

[LightSpectra]

Implying that pornography is inherently demeaning to women is just dumb in my opinion. And that thing about body ideals, I find meaningless. Judging by the front covers, teen magazines are far worse than anything when it comes to these things.

It's demeaning to men and women. The fact that this question is even being asked just demonstrates how warped our culture is. Imbeciles who think the pornography question is just a matter of "brainwashed fundamentalists ashamed of the human body that are impeding social progress" can shove it.

 

[Quackers]

Irelevant we teach our 5 year olds how to masturbate. We've got a good 50 years of liberalism on most places.

 

[Lillefix]

It's demeaning to men and women. The fact that this question is even being asked just demonstrates how warped our culture is. Imbeciles who think the pornography question is just a matter of "brainwashed fundamentalists ashamed of the human body that are impeding social progress" can shove it.

That's very nicley said of you.

One of the main arguments for it is that 14 year olds will find this "men dominating women"-pornography on the internet anyway. Why not give them a give them a healthier view of what sex is, by allowing "better" kind of pornography?

 

[hossam]

wait, if we show this in class, will the students be given some private time to jack off?cause otherwise were just gonna have some angry 14 year olds with blue balls. is it even can be fap worthy material?

 

[LightSpectra]

One of the main arguments for it is that 14 year olds will find this "men dominating women"-pornography on the internet anyway. Why not give them a give them a healthier view of what sex is, by allowing "better" kind of pornography?

Reading this and knowing that it was said without a blemish of sarcasm just depresses me so damn much.

 

[Lillefix]

is it even can be fap worth material?

It better be. If not, most of the point is gone.

 

[Shadylookin]

It's called the internet where all they have to do is type boobies into google image search and turn the filter off.

 

[Navarre]

I do think that pornography as an industry is demeaning for both sexes and especially for women as they're mostly treated like objects in the majority of porn.

I also think that the fact that body ideals are warped by teen magasines isn't a reason enough to accept it in other medias. Just because somebody or something else does something worse doesn't mean what you do isn't a problem.

Now, on the subject itself, I don't know. Fourteen years old and more widely teens need to apprehend sexuality, and responsible porn could be a way. It would probably be better that the porn they have access to nowadays, with the criminal conducts it sometimes lead to, like rape "because women are just there to take the man's load".

One of the main arguments for it is that 14 year olds will find this "men dominating women"-pornography on the internet anyway. Why not give them a give them a healthier view of what sex is, by allowing "better" kind of pornography?

Agreed.

Now, I expect the vast majority of people to put their head in the sand and not aknowledge that teens have sexual urges, claim that it's immoral or whatnot, but that's just the way the world is today. I'm at least glad to see some politics have the balls to challenge PC and think about things outside of a rigid "morality" frame. We need more of these, and less religious nuts or cowards afraid of not being reelected.

 

[Lillefix]

It's called the internet where all they have to do is type boobies into google image search and turn the filter off.

There's a filter?
In any case, kids will probably still search for porn. I think the main point is to show them not everything they see on the internet is realistic.

 

[Formaldehyde]

No. I think they should have to slink around by using PCs in internet cafes and secretly finding adult-oriented books in the public library, like everybody else does.

But it is funny to think about the government generating age-appropriate pornography in some vain attempt to stop the inevitable from happening. Clearly, this is a role best left to free enterprise.

 

[Lillefix]

But it is funny to think about the government generating age-appropriate pornography in some vain attempt to stop the inevitable from happening. Clearly, this is a role best left to free enterprise.

There's a reason why a Swedish minister once said(about ten years ago) that Norway was the last Soviet state.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Shameless self-interest view(poster is 16 and turns 17 on the 24th): Hell yes. Porn should be legal to anyone who has entered puberty. After all, that's the major part of puberty: you sexually mature and can do what you're supposed to do, that is, ensure the continuation of the species.

More Libertarian perspective: Another poster said this thing perfectly. If anyone has the right to tell kids what they can and can't look at, it's the parents. That said, as I'm against authority period, regardless of it's source, kids should just be able to flatout see it once they develop sexual feelings and can therefore appreciate the subject of pornography.

Some ********s may call it "sexist", but I think there needs to be special rules between men and women in the sexual arena on occassion. Simply because there ARE differences, hence why they're separate in the first place. For a good example, guy x and girl y can have sex, but if girl y gets pregnant and guy x doesn't accept the responsibility as a father and runs away, who gets hurt here? Obviously, females need a different kind of treatment, as they can easily be cursed with a child, while their partner can walk away.

Further logic: Pornography is like jaywalking. "Illegal", but most of the time, it's not enforced. Might as well get rid of the law, as it really seems to be nothing more than to help police officers get their quota when they're bored. And well, a spotlight on the customs of the past, which periodically need to be abolished.

If the pornography is free, anyone should have access to it. If it has to be paid for, obviously I do not support pirating the product(think music on the internet). As well, if a teenager has a job and wants to pay for their pleasure... who has any right to tell them they can't spend their money the way they want?

Most parents can use controls on their computer, I'm sure. But then again, those same people are the apparently the ones who are too lazy to change the channel or station on the TV/radio, and would rather the government censor it for us.

I guess they still keep their huge black and white, manually-operated TVs and don't want any of those newfangled remote controls/parental controls/modern television sets.

In sum, it saddens me we apparently think the government has to ban things - and impose it's will upon the unwilling - rather than letting everyone set their own individual policies and take responsibility for the consequences accordingly.

 

[ArneHD]

I want to know what people think about pornography and age limits. What inspired me was a comment in the newspaper the other day by a woman who wants to legalise some kinds of pornography to 14 year olds(and upwards obviously). She says that much pornography is discriminating towards women because pornography is made by men for men. But she says there is no reason it shouldn't be possible to make government sponsored "age appropiate" porn and legalise it for minors. What exactly she means by "age appropiate", I'm not really sure. But something realistic and not demeaning towards women I assume.

Personally, I find it to be an interesting suggestion.

Anyway, two Norwegian MPs(representing the two most annoying and far fetched ideologies in the parliament, christians and socialists), were asked about this. They didn't like it because pornography is demeaning to women(according the christian) and represents unhealthy body ideals(the socialist).

Implying that pornography is inherently demeaning to women is just dumb in my opinion. And that thing about body ideals, I find meaningless. Judging by the front covers, teen magazines are far worse than anything when it comes to these things.

So any thoughts?

commentary(in Norwegian):
http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikker/article3429077.ece

I wouldn't call KrF and SV the most annoying in the parliament, that prize goes to FrP.

Anyway, why? I don't really see that pornography is such a big thing, at least on the consumption side.

 

[Lillefix]

I wouldn't call KrF and SV the most annoying in the parliament, that prize goes to FrP.

Sorry mods, this is completely off topic but it has to be said:

For me it's a four way tie between Sv(young girls with an opinion about everything), KrF(not that bad actually, I just dislike their family politics and I really dislike the MP in question), Frp(far right populists who claims they have already suggested anything the opposition proposes) and Sp(Eu-hating farmers).

 

[Rashiminos]

Under certain restrictions (parental options, restricted genres, etc), I think encouraging more open discussions about appropriate sexual behavior would have more benefits than the current "hide it behind the age curtain" system, which is to say some benefits.

 

[Shadylookin]

There's a filter?
In any case, kids will probably still search for porn. I think the main point is to show them not everything they see on the internet is realistic.

What do you mean? Isn't every guy's penis as long as big as his forearm and every time you have sex you don't last 2 hours and have a camera guy? Just me?

I don't think there's a significant need to demonstrate what's realistic as they'll find out for themselves soon enough(hopefully not too soon).

 

[ParkCungHee]

It's called the internet where all they have to do is type boobies into google image search and turn the filter off.

This.