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From what I know, Ngati Toa is a tribe, and Maui is a person?
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I am working very slowly on a mod around Atlantis between work and school. I was thinking about using the Cyrus model for the leader with some changes of course. I was also wanting to make some other mysterious or ancient civilizations. One example I was thinking was the Dravidians. Anyway I am going to try to make them as I get time, but if anyone can make some or has any good ideas it would always help.
Thanks ahead of time for your interest.
Thanks ahead of time for your interest.
Jeffrodriguez
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I want to request a FILIPINO CIV
shakadamonkey said:
Here is the city list I am planning to use for the Polynesians in Civ Gold:
Honolulu USA
Suva FIJ
Noumea NCD
Honiara SOL
Apia SAM
Bairiki KIR
Nuku'alofa TON
Hanga-Roa CHI
Lautoka FIJ
Hilo USA
Papeete FP
Port Vila VAN
Weno MIC
Koror PLW
Punaauia FP
Kailua USA
Ebeye MSH
Funafuti TUV
Yaren NAU
Alofi NIU
Tamuning GUA
Garapan NMI
Avarua CKI
Mata-Utu WAF
Atafu TKL
Tafuna AMS
Nadi FIJ
Faaa FP
Kaneohe USA
Mont-Dore NCD
Labasa FIJ
Nausori FIJ
Pirae FP
Waipahu USA
Lami FIJ
Mba FIJ
Rarotonga CKI
Dumbea NCD
Paita NCD
Mahina FP
Paea FP
Luganville VAN
Darrit MSH
Delap MSH
Kiritimati KIR
Vaitele SAM
Noro SOL
Neiafu TON
Nu'uuli AMS
Pago Pago AMS
Palikir MIC
Nett MIC
Kitti MIC
Airai PLW
Mangilao GUA
Yigo GUA
As you can see, the representation is broad. I have extended it to include Melanesia and Micronesia, although I am aware of the distinctions. I've also included cities from Hawaii and Easter Island. Some dependencies are included, as well.
I have a request
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māori
Māori is the name of the indigenous people of New Zealand, and their language. The word māori means "normal" or "ordinary" in the Māori language. In legends and other oral traditions, the word distinguished ordinary mortal human beings from deities and spirits. "Māori" has cognates in some other Polynesian languages such as Hawaiian in which the word maoli means native, indigenous, real, or actual. It is also the name of the people and language of the Cook Islands, referred to as Cook Islands Māori.
Archaeological and linguistic evidence (see Sutton 1994) suggests there were probably several waves of migration from Eastern Polynesia to New Zealand between 800 and 1300 AD. Māori origins therefore cannot be separated from those of their Polynesian ancestors (for more information see Polynesian culture). Māori oral history describes their arrival from Hawaiki (a mythical homeland in tropical Polynesia) by large ocean–going canoes (waka) - see Māori migration canoes. Migration accounts vary among Māori tribes or iwi, whose members can identify with different waka in their genealogies or whakapapa.
There is no credible evidence of human settlement in New Zealand prior to the Māori voyagers; on the other hand, compelling evidence from archaeology, linguistics, and physical anthropology indicates that the first settlers were East Polynesians who became the Māori.
Here is the leader info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rangihau
John Te Rangianiwaniwa Rangihau (5 September 1919-14 October 1987) was a New Zealand academic and Māori leader of the Tuhoe iwi. He was also called Te Nika and Te Rangihau.
Rangihau fought with the 28th New Zealand (Māori) Battalion in World War II. He worked as a Māori welfare officer for the Department of Maori Affairs and became a recognised leader of the Tuhoe people. From 1957 to 1959, Rangihau completed a diploma in social science at Victoria University.
In 1973, Rangihau was working for the University of Waikato's Centre for Maori Studies and Research looking for ways to preserve the Māori language. He was involved in setting up Māori-language pre-school groups in 1974, but they lasted less than a year. In 1975 he was awarded the British Empire Medal for services to Māori. Rangihau became involved in the ministerial committee to prevent the decline in the number of Māori language speakers in New Zealand, and the scheme came to fruition with the kohanga reo scheme of Māori-language kindergartens in 1982.
After 1982, Rangihau became an advisor to the Maori Affairs Department. He encouraged Māori elders to contact their children and grandchildren in prisons and encourage them to return to their families once released. He facilitated research into Māori health.
Victoria University established a teaching and research position in his honour in 1989.
and here is a uu idea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māori_migration_canoes
Various Māori traditions recount how their ancestors set out from a mythical homeland in great ocean-going canoes. Some of these traditions name the homeland as Hawaiki.
Among these is the story of Kupe, who had eloped with Kuramarotini, the wife of Hoturapa, the owner of the great canoe Matahourua, whom Kupe had murdered. To escape punishment for the murder, Kupe and Kura fled in Matahourua and discovered a land he called Aotearoa ('long-white-cloud'). He explored its coast and killed the sea monster Te Wheke-a-Muturangi, finally returning to his home to spread news of his newly discovered land.[1]
Other stories of various other tribes report migrations to escape famine, over-population, and warfare. These were made in legendary canoes, the best known of which are Aotea, Arawa, Kurahaupō, Mataatua, Tainui, Tākitimu, and Tokomaru. Various traditions name numerous other canoes. Some, including the Āraiteuru, are well known; others including the Kirauta and the sacred Arahura and Mahangaatuamatua are little known. Rather than arriving in a single fleet, the journeys may have occurred over several centuries.
and for the citeys i do not have a list unfortuatly
or this civ to much like the Polynisians civ???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māori
Māori is the name of the indigenous people of New Zealand, and their language. The word māori means "normal" or "ordinary" in the Māori language. In legends and other oral traditions, the word distinguished ordinary mortal human beings from deities and spirits. "Māori" has cognates in some other Polynesian languages such as Hawaiian in which the word maoli means native, indigenous, real, or actual. It is also the name of the people and language of the Cook Islands, referred to as Cook Islands Māori.
Archaeological and linguistic evidence (see Sutton 1994) suggests there were probably several waves of migration from Eastern Polynesia to New Zealand between 800 and 1300 AD. Māori origins therefore cannot be separated from those of their Polynesian ancestors (for more information see Polynesian culture). Māori oral history describes their arrival from Hawaiki (a mythical homeland in tropical Polynesia) by large ocean–going canoes (waka) - see Māori migration canoes. Migration accounts vary among Māori tribes or iwi, whose members can identify with different waka in their genealogies or whakapapa.
There is no credible evidence of human settlement in New Zealand prior to the Māori voyagers; on the other hand, compelling evidence from archaeology, linguistics, and physical anthropology indicates that the first settlers were East Polynesians who became the Māori.
Here is the leader info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rangihau
John Te Rangianiwaniwa Rangihau (5 September 1919-14 October 1987) was a New Zealand academic and Māori leader of the Tuhoe iwi. He was also called Te Nika and Te Rangihau.
Rangihau fought with the 28th New Zealand (Māori) Battalion in World War II. He worked as a Māori welfare officer for the Department of Maori Affairs and became a recognised leader of the Tuhoe people. From 1957 to 1959, Rangihau completed a diploma in social science at Victoria University.
In 1973, Rangihau was working for the University of Waikato's Centre for Maori Studies and Research looking for ways to preserve the Māori language. He was involved in setting up Māori-language pre-school groups in 1974, but they lasted less than a year. In 1975 he was awarded the British Empire Medal for services to Māori. Rangihau became involved in the ministerial committee to prevent the decline in the number of Māori language speakers in New Zealand, and the scheme came to fruition with the kohanga reo scheme of Māori-language kindergartens in 1982.
After 1982, Rangihau became an advisor to the Maori Affairs Department. He encouraged Māori elders to contact their children and grandchildren in prisons and encourage them to return to their families once released. He facilitated research into Māori health.
Victoria University established a teaching and research position in his honour in 1989.
and here is a uu idea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māori_migration_canoes
Various Māori traditions recount how their ancestors set out from a mythical homeland in great ocean-going canoes. Some of these traditions name the homeland as Hawaiki.
Among these is the story of Kupe, who had eloped with Kuramarotini, the wife of Hoturapa, the owner of the great canoe Matahourua, whom Kupe had murdered. To escape punishment for the murder, Kupe and Kura fled in Matahourua and discovered a land he called Aotearoa ('long-white-cloud'). He explored its coast and killed the sea monster Te Wheke-a-Muturangi, finally returning to his home to spread news of his newly discovered land.[1]
Other stories of various other tribes report migrations to escape famine, over-population, and warfare. These were made in legendary canoes, the best known of which are Aotea, Arawa, Kurahaupō, Mataatua, Tainui, Tākitimu, and Tokomaru. Various traditions name numerous other canoes. Some, including the Āraiteuru, are well known; others including the Kirauta and the sacred Arahura and Mahangaatuamatua are little known. Rather than arriving in a single fleet, the journeys may have occurred over several centuries.
and for the citeys i do not have a list unfortuatly
or this civ to much like the Polynisians civ???
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Maori is on my to-do list, as well.
Immediately, we are looking at finishing CIV Gold 2.0, with existing civilizations (and a lot of changes to those existing ones). I am currently gathering some info for Pakistan and will gladly do Maori once I get a chance.
Immediately, we are looking at finishing CIV Gold 2.0, with existing civilizations (and a lot of changes to those existing ones). I am currently gathering some info for Pakistan and will gladly do Maori once I get a chance.
some requseted a civ requset of the Huns well I have lots of info on them.Here it is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns
Dionysius Periegetes talks of people who may be Huns living next to the Caspian Sea in second century AD. Ptolemy lists the "Chuni" as among the "Sarmatian" tribes in the second century, although it is not known for certain if these people were the Huns. The fifth century Armenian historian Moses of Khorene, in his "History of Armenia," introduces the Hunni near the Sarmatians and goes on to describe how they captured the city of Balk ("Kush" in Armenian) sometime between 194 and 214, which explains why the Greeks call that city Hunuk.
Following the defeat of the Hsiung-nu by the Han, there was a century without significant Hsiung-nu references, followed by attempts by the Liu family of southern Hsiung-nu Tiefu to establish a state in western China (see Han Zhao). Chionites (OIONO/Xiyon) appear on the scene in Transoxiana as the Kidarites begin to press on the Kushans in 320 and the Jie ethnicity Hou/Later Zhao kingdom competes against the Liu family. Back west, the Romans invite the Huns east of the Ukraine to settle Pannonia in 361, and in 372, under the leadership of Balimir their king, the Huns push toward the west and defeat the Alans. Back east again, in the early 5th century Tiefu Xia is the last southern Hsiung-nu dynasty in Western China and the Alchon and Huna appear in what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan. At this point deciphering Hunnish histories for the multi-linguist becomes easier with relatively well-documented events in Byzantine, Armenian, Iranian, Indian, and Chinese sources.
European Huns in the 5th century
Huns made an appearance in Europe in the Fourth Century AD, appearing first north of the Black Sea area possibly from Central Asia, forcing a large number of Goths to seek refuge in the Roman Empire; then later the Huns appear west of the Carpathians in Pannonia, probably sometime between 400 and 410, which was probably the trigger for the massive migration of Germanic tribes westward across the Rhine in December 406.
The establishment of the 5th century Hun Empire marks one of the first well-documented appearances of the culture of horseback migration in history. Under the leadership of Attila the Hun, these tribal people achieved military and diplomatic superiority over their rivals (most of them highly cultured) through weapons like the Hun bow and a system of pay-offs, financed by the plundering of wealthy Roman cities to the south, to retain the loyalties of a diverse number of tribes.
Attila's Huns incorporated groups of unrelated tributary peoples. In the European case Alans, Gepids, Sciri, Rugians, Sarmatians, Slavs and Gothic tribes all united under the Hun family military elite. Some of Attila's Huns eventually settled in Pannonia after his death, but the Hun Empire would not survive Attila's passing. After his sons were defeated by Ardaric's coalition at the unidentified river Nedao in 454, the Hunnish empire ceased to exist.
The memory of the Hunnish invasion was transmitted orally among the Germanic peoples and is an important component in the Old Norse Völsunga saga and Hervarar saga, and the Old German Nibelungenlied, all portraying events in the Migrations period, almost one millennium before their recordings. In the Hervarar saga, the Goths make first contact with the bow-wielding Huns and meet them in an epic battle on the plains of the Danube. In the Völsunga saga and the Nibelungenlied, King Attila (Atli in Norse and Etzel in German) defeats the Frankish king Sigebert I (Sigurðr or Siegfried) and the Burgundian King Guntram I (Gunnar or Gunther), but is subsequently assassinated by Queen Fredegund (Gudrun or Kriemhild), the sister of the latter and wife of the former.
Leader info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_the_Hun
Attila the Hun (406453) was the final and most powerful king of the Huns. He reigned over what was then Europe's largest empire, from 434 until his death. His empire stretched from Central Europe to the Black Sea and from the Danube River to the Baltic. During his rule he was among the direst enemies of the Eastern and Western Roman Empires: he invaded the Balkans twice and encircled Constantinople in the second invasion. He marched through Gaul (later France) as far as Orleans before being turned back at Battle of Chalons; and he drove the western emperor Valentinian III from his capital at Ravenna in 452.
Though his empire died with him and he left no amazing legend, he has become a legendary figure in the history of Europe. In much of Western Europe, he is remembered as the epitome of cruelty and rapacity. In contrast, some histories lionize him as a great and noble king, and he plays major roles in three Norse sagas.
As late as 450, Attila had proclaimed his intent to attack the powerful Visigoth kingdom of Toulouse in alliance with Emperor Valentinian III. He had previously been on good terms with the western Empire and its de facto ruler Flavius AëtiusAetius had spent a brief exile among the Huns in 433, and the troops Attila provided against the Goths and Bagaudae had helped earn him the largely honorary title of magister militum in the west. The gifts and diplomatic efforts of Geiseric, who opposed and feared the Visigoths, may also have influenced Attila's plans.
However Valentinian's sister Honoria, in order to escape her forced betrothal to a senator, had sent the Hunnish king a plea for helpand her ringin the spring of 450. Though Honoria may not have intended a proposal of marriage, Attila chose to interpret her message as such; he accepted, asking for half of the western Empire as dowry. When Valentinian discovered the plan, only the influence of his mother Galla Placidia convinced him to exile, rather than kill, Honoria; he also wrote to Attila strenuously denying the legitimacy of the supposed marriage proposal. Attila, not convinced, sent an embassy to Ravenna to proclaim that Honoria was innocent, that the proposal had been legitimate, and that he would come to claim what was rightfully his.
Meanwhile, Theodosius having died in a riding accident, his successor Marcian cut off the Huns' tribute in late 450; and multiple invasions, by the Huns and by others, had left the Balkans with little to plunder. The king of the Salian Franks had died, and the succession struggle between his two sons drove a rift between Attila and Aetius: Attila supported the elder son, while Aetius supported the younger[1]. J.B. Bury believes that Attila's intent, by the time he marched west, was to extend his kingdomalready the strongest on the continentacross Gaul to the Atlantic shore[2]. By the time Attila had gathered his vassalsGepids, Ostrogoths, Rugians, Scirians, Heruls, Thuringians, Alans, Burgundians, et al.and begun his march west, he had declared intent of alliance both with the Visigoths and with the Romans.
In 451, his arrival in Belgica with an army exaggerated by Jordanes to half a million strong soon made his intent clear. On April 7 he captured Metz, and Aetius moved to oppose him, gathering troops from among the Franks, the Burgundians, and the Celts. A mission by Avitus, and Attila's continued westward advance, convinced the Visigoth king Theodoric I (Theodorid) to ally with the Romans. The combined armies reached Orleans ahead of Attila[3], thus checking and turning back the Hunnish advance. Aetius gave chase and caught the Huns at a place usually assumed to be near Châlons-en-Champagne. The two armies clashed in the Battle of Chalons, whose outcome commonly, though erroneously, is attributed to be a victory for the Gothic-Roman alliance. Theodoric was killed in the fighting. Aetius failed to press his advantage, and the alliance quickly disbanded. Attila withdrew to continue his campaign against Italy.
Sorry once again I could not find any info on cities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns
Dionysius Periegetes talks of people who may be Huns living next to the Caspian Sea in second century AD. Ptolemy lists the "Chuni" as among the "Sarmatian" tribes in the second century, although it is not known for certain if these people were the Huns. The fifth century Armenian historian Moses of Khorene, in his "History of Armenia," introduces the Hunni near the Sarmatians and goes on to describe how they captured the city of Balk ("Kush" in Armenian) sometime between 194 and 214, which explains why the Greeks call that city Hunuk.
Following the defeat of the Hsiung-nu by the Han, there was a century without significant Hsiung-nu references, followed by attempts by the Liu family of southern Hsiung-nu Tiefu to establish a state in western China (see Han Zhao). Chionites (OIONO/Xiyon) appear on the scene in Transoxiana as the Kidarites begin to press on the Kushans in 320 and the Jie ethnicity Hou/Later Zhao kingdom competes against the Liu family. Back west, the Romans invite the Huns east of the Ukraine to settle Pannonia in 361, and in 372, under the leadership of Balimir their king, the Huns push toward the west and defeat the Alans. Back east again, in the early 5th century Tiefu Xia is the last southern Hsiung-nu dynasty in Western China and the Alchon and Huna appear in what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan. At this point deciphering Hunnish histories for the multi-linguist becomes easier with relatively well-documented events in Byzantine, Armenian, Iranian, Indian, and Chinese sources.
European Huns in the 5th century
Huns made an appearance in Europe in the Fourth Century AD, appearing first north of the Black Sea area possibly from Central Asia, forcing a large number of Goths to seek refuge in the Roman Empire; then later the Huns appear west of the Carpathians in Pannonia, probably sometime between 400 and 410, which was probably the trigger for the massive migration of Germanic tribes westward across the Rhine in December 406.
The establishment of the 5th century Hun Empire marks one of the first well-documented appearances of the culture of horseback migration in history. Under the leadership of Attila the Hun, these tribal people achieved military and diplomatic superiority over their rivals (most of them highly cultured) through weapons like the Hun bow and a system of pay-offs, financed by the plundering of wealthy Roman cities to the south, to retain the loyalties of a diverse number of tribes.
Attila's Huns incorporated groups of unrelated tributary peoples. In the European case Alans, Gepids, Sciri, Rugians, Sarmatians, Slavs and Gothic tribes all united under the Hun family military elite. Some of Attila's Huns eventually settled in Pannonia after his death, but the Hun Empire would not survive Attila's passing. After his sons were defeated by Ardaric's coalition at the unidentified river Nedao in 454, the Hunnish empire ceased to exist.
The memory of the Hunnish invasion was transmitted orally among the Germanic peoples and is an important component in the Old Norse Völsunga saga and Hervarar saga, and the Old German Nibelungenlied, all portraying events in the Migrations period, almost one millennium before their recordings. In the Hervarar saga, the Goths make first contact with the bow-wielding Huns and meet them in an epic battle on the plains of the Danube. In the Völsunga saga and the Nibelungenlied, King Attila (Atli in Norse and Etzel in German) defeats the Frankish king Sigebert I (Sigurðr or Siegfried) and the Burgundian King Guntram I (Gunnar or Gunther), but is subsequently assassinated by Queen Fredegund (Gudrun or Kriemhild), the sister of the latter and wife of the former.
Leader info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_the_Hun
Attila the Hun (406453) was the final and most powerful king of the Huns. He reigned over what was then Europe's largest empire, from 434 until his death. His empire stretched from Central Europe to the Black Sea and from the Danube River to the Baltic. During his rule he was among the direst enemies of the Eastern and Western Roman Empires: he invaded the Balkans twice and encircled Constantinople in the second invasion. He marched through Gaul (later France) as far as Orleans before being turned back at Battle of Chalons; and he drove the western emperor Valentinian III from his capital at Ravenna in 452.
Though his empire died with him and he left no amazing legend, he has become a legendary figure in the history of Europe. In much of Western Europe, he is remembered as the epitome of cruelty and rapacity. In contrast, some histories lionize him as a great and noble king, and he plays major roles in three Norse sagas.
As late as 450, Attila had proclaimed his intent to attack the powerful Visigoth kingdom of Toulouse in alliance with Emperor Valentinian III. He had previously been on good terms with the western Empire and its de facto ruler Flavius AëtiusAetius had spent a brief exile among the Huns in 433, and the troops Attila provided against the Goths and Bagaudae had helped earn him the largely honorary title of magister militum in the west. The gifts and diplomatic efforts of Geiseric, who opposed and feared the Visigoths, may also have influenced Attila's plans.
However Valentinian's sister Honoria, in order to escape her forced betrothal to a senator, had sent the Hunnish king a plea for helpand her ringin the spring of 450. Though Honoria may not have intended a proposal of marriage, Attila chose to interpret her message as such; he accepted, asking for half of the western Empire as dowry. When Valentinian discovered the plan, only the influence of his mother Galla Placidia convinced him to exile, rather than kill, Honoria; he also wrote to Attila strenuously denying the legitimacy of the supposed marriage proposal. Attila, not convinced, sent an embassy to Ravenna to proclaim that Honoria was innocent, that the proposal had been legitimate, and that he would come to claim what was rightfully his.
Meanwhile, Theodosius having died in a riding accident, his successor Marcian cut off the Huns' tribute in late 450; and multiple invasions, by the Huns and by others, had left the Balkans with little to plunder. The king of the Salian Franks had died, and the succession struggle between his two sons drove a rift between Attila and Aetius: Attila supported the elder son, while Aetius supported the younger[1]. J.B. Bury believes that Attila's intent, by the time he marched west, was to extend his kingdomalready the strongest on the continentacross Gaul to the Atlantic shore[2]. By the time Attila had gathered his vassalsGepids, Ostrogoths, Rugians, Scirians, Heruls, Thuringians, Alans, Burgundians, et al.and begun his march west, he had declared intent of alliance both with the Visigoths and with the Romans.
In 451, his arrival in Belgica with an army exaggerated by Jordanes to half a million strong soon made his intent clear. On April 7 he captured Metz, and Aetius moved to oppose him, gathering troops from among the Franks, the Burgundians, and the Celts. A mission by Avitus, and Attila's continued westward advance, convinced the Visigoth king Theodoric I (Theodorid) to ally with the Romans. The combined armies reached Orleans ahead of Attila[3], thus checking and turning back the Hunnish advance. Aetius gave chase and caught the Huns at a place usually assumed to be near Châlons-en-Champagne. The two armies clashed in the Battle of Chalons, whose outcome commonly, though erroneously, is attributed to be a victory for the Gothic-Roman alliance. Theodoric was killed in the fighting. Aetius failed to press his advantage, and the alliance quickly disbanded. Attila withdrew to continue his campaign against Italy.
Sorry once again I could not find any info on cities
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Here is more info on the Maori inculduing cites more leader info a flag and a picture of a possabal leaderhead I got all the info on wikipedia
Riwha Titokowaru (c. 1823 - 1888) became a Maori leader in the Taranaki region and one of the most successful opponents of British colonisation anywhere.
Riwha was a subtribal leader (having succeeded his father "Titokowaru") of the Ngati Ruanui iwi in South Taranaki. A lot of what was accomplished by his father had been wrongly attributed to the son; being events of intertribal warring during his time of preadolescence. There is some mystery about his early life, but he is known to have become a Methodist in 1842 having been baptised and given the name of Hohepa Otene (named after the missionary). He joined the "King Movement" and fought in the First Taranaki War in 1860 and 1861 after much provocation from the european-based government.
In 1865 and 1866 British troops conducted a punitive campaign throughout Taranaki, destroying villages whether they supported the King Movement or not. The year 1867 was declared by Titokowaru to be a year of peace. However continual land grabbing by settlers proved intolerable and in 1868 Titokowaru went to war.
In June 1868 Titokowaru's forces destroyed a colonist blockhouse at Turuturumokai, inland of Hawera. The colonial response was to send a large contingent to destroy Titokowaru's stronghold. On 7 September 1868 the colonial forces were defeated with heavy casulties. The stronghold was then abandoned. Amongst the dead was the famous Prussian adventurer Gustavus von Tempsky. Turuturumokai was, previous to becoming a Pakeha garrison, a small Maori encampment, which had been found to be abandoned. Later after careful surveying it was also discovered that, contrary to appearances, Turuturumokai was not as inconquerable as thought by British troops. The Maori decision to leave Turuturumokai was a strategic move.
Titokowaru then advanced southward and defeated a second colonial force at Moturoa. He then stopped at Tauranga Ika and proceeded to build another fortress. Its strength was never tested, as most of Titokowaru's followers abandoned him before the colonials could attack it.
His later understanding of the needed union of two peoples (Maori and settler) was incomparable. He advocated peace and diplomacy between the British and Maoridom. He practiced his own message, demonstrating great tolerance that was noted by many settlers and authority-figures of his time.
see also: Titokowaru's War
Hailed as a warlord, prophet and peacemaker; Titokowaru's remarkable story lapsed into obscurity before being popularised by New Zealand historian James Belich in his works on the Maori wars. He is also the subject of a Maurice Shadbolt novel.
King Tawhiao, born Matutaera Te Pukepuke Te Paue Te Karato Te-a-Potatau Tawhiao, (1822? - August 26, 1894) was a Maori King and leader of the Waikato People. A member of the Ngati Mahuta iwi or tribe.
Born at Orongokoekoea Pa (near Taumarunui) during the Musket Wars. His father, Potatau Te Wherewhero was the leader of the Waikato people. In 1858 Potatau was installed as the first Maori King, his purpose being to promote unity among the Maori people in the face of Pakeha encroachment.
Potatau died in 1860 and was succeeded by Tawhiao who reigned for thirty four years during one of the most difficult and discouraging periods of Maori history. In New Zealand during this period there were two governments. English Law and Govenance prevailed within the settlenments and Maori Law or Custom over the rest of the country. However the Pakeha population was increasing fast while the Maori population was either static or declining. This was also the period when the British felt they had a manifest destiny to rule the world. The presence of an independent native state was seen by many as intolerable particularly as it occupied most of the territory of the North Island and thus had the potential undermine the colonial government's sovereignty.
In 1863 on very slim pretexts and in defiance of the Treaty of Waitangi the Pakeha Government backed by some fourteen thousand Imperial Troops invaded the Waikato, King Tawhio's territory. The Waikato people maded a strong defence but inevitably were forced to retreat. The conquered land was confiscated, altogether about a million acres (4,000 km²
.
Tawhiao and his people moved southwards, into the territory of the Ngati Maniapoto, the area of New Zealand that is still known as the King Country. He was a pacifist, or perhaps he was simply a realist who recognized the futility of trying to fight the Pakeha government. Over the next twenty years he travelled among his people reminding them that war always had its price and the price was always higher than expected. But he also predicted that the Maori people would find justice and restitution for the wrongs they had suffered.
In 1878 the New Zealand Government with George Grey as Prime Minister approached Tawhio with the proposal that some of their Waikato land would be restored to them if they would accept the integration of the King Country with the rest of New Zealand. On the advice of his council Tawhio rejected the offer. However it was accepted three years later in a modified form.
Denied justice in New Zealand King Tawhio travelled to London to see Queen Victoria to try and persuade her to honour the Treaty between their peoples. Not surprisingly he didn't get beyond Lord Derby, Secretary of State for the Colonies who said it was a New Zealand problem. Returning to New Zealand the Premier, Robert Stout, insisted that all events happening prior to 1863 were the responsibility of the Imperial Government.
Thoroughly disillusioned Tawhiao tried various initiatives to promote the independence and welfare of his people but he had been effectively marginalized. His problems were not solely due to the attitude of the New Zealand Government. The King Movement had never represented all the Maori people and as it lost its mana or standing they became even more disunited. During the remainder of his life Tawhio was respected and even entertained as royalty by many of the Maori people. But he was allowed almost no influence over political events, he had been truly marginalized.
Tawhiao is buried at Taupiri.
here are the cities
Ngapuhi
Porou
Kahungunu
Waikato
Tuwharetoa
Tuhoe
Maniapoto
Raukawa
Awa
Atiawa
Whatua
Rarawa
Whanau-a-Apanui
Whakatohea
Ati Hau Nui-A-Paparangi
Aupouri
Kahu
Rangi
Haua
Taranaki
Ranginui
Akarana
Ruanui
Pikiao
Te Aitanga-a-Mahaki
Rangitane
Ruahine
Rauru
Toarangatira
Toa
Wai
Rongowhakaata
Apa
Mutunga
Muaupoko
Hauiti
Rongomaiwahine
Tama
Tuhourangi
Rangiwewehi
Manawa
Pakakohi
Waitaha
Pukenga
Tahu
Rangitihi
Hako
Koata
Whare
Roroa
Uri-o Hau
Rarua
Moriori
Takoto
Pukenga ki Waiau
Tangahoe
Uenuku-Kopako
Uenuku-Kopako
Uenuku-Kopako
Tarawhai
Tai
Rangiteaorere
Patukirikiri
Ati Awa
Kāi Tahu
Kati Mamoe
Ruahine
Ruanui
Tai
Ngarauru
Ngaruanui
Ngaterangi
Kuia
Kuri
Mahuta
Mamoe
Maru
Paoa
Poneke
Rahiri Tumutumu
Rauru
Ruapani
Tamanuhiri
Tamatera
Tara Tokanui
Ata
Tutekohe
Whakaue
Whanaunga
Tapuika
Aitanga-a-Hauiti
Arawa
Roroa
Riwha Titokowaru (c. 1823 - 1888) became a Maori leader in the Taranaki region and one of the most successful opponents of British colonisation anywhere.
Riwha was a subtribal leader (having succeeded his father "Titokowaru") of the Ngati Ruanui iwi in South Taranaki. A lot of what was accomplished by his father had been wrongly attributed to the son; being events of intertribal warring during his time of preadolescence. There is some mystery about his early life, but he is known to have become a Methodist in 1842 having been baptised and given the name of Hohepa Otene (named after the missionary). He joined the "King Movement" and fought in the First Taranaki War in 1860 and 1861 after much provocation from the european-based government.
In 1865 and 1866 British troops conducted a punitive campaign throughout Taranaki, destroying villages whether they supported the King Movement or not. The year 1867 was declared by Titokowaru to be a year of peace. However continual land grabbing by settlers proved intolerable and in 1868 Titokowaru went to war.
In June 1868 Titokowaru's forces destroyed a colonist blockhouse at Turuturumokai, inland of Hawera. The colonial response was to send a large contingent to destroy Titokowaru's stronghold. On 7 September 1868 the colonial forces were defeated with heavy casulties. The stronghold was then abandoned. Amongst the dead was the famous Prussian adventurer Gustavus von Tempsky. Turuturumokai was, previous to becoming a Pakeha garrison, a small Maori encampment, which had been found to be abandoned. Later after careful surveying it was also discovered that, contrary to appearances, Turuturumokai was not as inconquerable as thought by British troops. The Maori decision to leave Turuturumokai was a strategic move.
Titokowaru then advanced southward and defeated a second colonial force at Moturoa. He then stopped at Tauranga Ika and proceeded to build another fortress. Its strength was never tested, as most of Titokowaru's followers abandoned him before the colonials could attack it.
His later understanding of the needed union of two peoples (Maori and settler) was incomparable. He advocated peace and diplomacy between the British and Maoridom. He practiced his own message, demonstrating great tolerance that was noted by many settlers and authority-figures of his time.
see also: Titokowaru's War
Hailed as a warlord, prophet and peacemaker; Titokowaru's remarkable story lapsed into obscurity before being popularised by New Zealand historian James Belich in his works on the Maori wars. He is also the subject of a Maurice Shadbolt novel.
King Tawhiao, born Matutaera Te Pukepuke Te Paue Te Karato Te-a-Potatau Tawhiao, (1822? - August 26, 1894) was a Maori King and leader of the Waikato People. A member of the Ngati Mahuta iwi or tribe.
Born at Orongokoekoea Pa (near Taumarunui) during the Musket Wars. His father, Potatau Te Wherewhero was the leader of the Waikato people. In 1858 Potatau was installed as the first Maori King, his purpose being to promote unity among the Maori people in the face of Pakeha encroachment.
Potatau died in 1860 and was succeeded by Tawhiao who reigned for thirty four years during one of the most difficult and discouraging periods of Maori history. In New Zealand during this period there were two governments. English Law and Govenance prevailed within the settlenments and Maori Law or Custom over the rest of the country. However the Pakeha population was increasing fast while the Maori population was either static or declining. This was also the period when the British felt they had a manifest destiny to rule the world. The presence of an independent native state was seen by many as intolerable particularly as it occupied most of the territory of the North Island and thus had the potential undermine the colonial government's sovereignty.
In 1863 on very slim pretexts and in defiance of the Treaty of Waitangi the Pakeha Government backed by some fourteen thousand Imperial Troops invaded the Waikato, King Tawhio's territory. The Waikato people maded a strong defence but inevitably were forced to retreat. The conquered land was confiscated, altogether about a million acres (4,000 km²
.Tawhiao and his people moved southwards, into the territory of the Ngati Maniapoto, the area of New Zealand that is still known as the King Country. He was a pacifist, or perhaps he was simply a realist who recognized the futility of trying to fight the Pakeha government. Over the next twenty years he travelled among his people reminding them that war always had its price and the price was always higher than expected. But he also predicted that the Maori people would find justice and restitution for the wrongs they had suffered.
In 1878 the New Zealand Government with George Grey as Prime Minister approached Tawhio with the proposal that some of their Waikato land would be restored to them if they would accept the integration of the King Country with the rest of New Zealand. On the advice of his council Tawhio rejected the offer. However it was accepted three years later in a modified form.
Denied justice in New Zealand King Tawhio travelled to London to see Queen Victoria to try and persuade her to honour the Treaty between their peoples. Not surprisingly he didn't get beyond Lord Derby, Secretary of State for the Colonies who said it was a New Zealand problem. Returning to New Zealand the Premier, Robert Stout, insisted that all events happening prior to 1863 were the responsibility of the Imperial Government.
Thoroughly disillusioned Tawhiao tried various initiatives to promote the independence and welfare of his people but he had been effectively marginalized. His problems were not solely due to the attitude of the New Zealand Government. The King Movement had never represented all the Maori people and as it lost its mana or standing they became even more disunited. During the remainder of his life Tawhio was respected and even entertained as royalty by many of the Maori people. But he was allowed almost no influence over political events, he had been truly marginalized.
Tawhiao is buried at Taupiri.
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Ngapuhi
Porou
Kahungunu
Waikato
Tuwharetoa
Tuhoe
Maniapoto
Raukawa
Awa
Atiawa
Whatua
Rarawa
Whanau-a-Apanui
Whakatohea
Ati Hau Nui-A-Paparangi
Aupouri
Kahu
Rangi
Haua
Taranaki
Ranginui
Akarana
Ruanui
Pikiao
Te Aitanga-a-Mahaki
Rangitane
Ruahine
Rauru
Toarangatira
Toa
Wai
Rongowhakaata
Apa
Mutunga
Muaupoko
Hauiti
Rongomaiwahine
Tama
Tuhourangi
Rangiwewehi
Manawa
Pakakohi
Waitaha
Pukenga
Tahu
Rangitihi
Hako
Koata
Whare
Roroa
Uri-o Hau
Rarua
Moriori
Takoto
Pukenga ki Waiau
Tangahoe
Uenuku-Kopako
Uenuku-Kopako
Uenuku-Kopako
Tarawhai
Tai
Rangiteaorere
Patukirikiri
Ati Awa
Kāi Tahu
Kati Mamoe
Ruahine
Ruanui
Tai
Ngarauru
Ngaruanui
Ngaterangi
Kuia
Kuri
Mahuta
Mamoe
Maru
Paoa
Poneke
Rahiri Tumutumu
Rauru
Ruapani
Tamanuhiri
Tamatera
Tara Tokanui
Ata
Tutekohe
Whakaue
Whanaunga
Tapuika
Aitanga-a-Hauiti
Arawa
Roroa
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UniverseZero
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If anyone actually gets to make any of those CIV's, I've been wanting to have a israeli CIV...
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=140587 is a thread about the Civ but the creator just stopped comming
Civ: Israeli
Leaders:
King David: Spiritual, Agressive
Itzjak Rabin: Spiritual, Expansive
Capital: Jerusalem
Flag:
Starting Techs: Mysticism and Hunting
Great Scientists : Chaim Weizmann, Asher Peres
Great Prophets : Moses, Rabi Akiva, Abraham, Moishe Filher
Great Artists : Shlomo Artzi, Naomi Shemer, Gene Simmons
Great Engineers : Jacob Ziv, Moshe Zakai
Unique Unit : Tzahal (Some kind of modern era soldier with the guerrilla improvement...)
Cities:
Tel Aviv
Haifa
Eilat
Jerico
Tiberias
Akko
Beer Sheva
Yafo
Gaza
Bet Lejem
Gaza
Nazareth
Masada
Arad
Petaj Tikva
Modin
Ariel
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=140587 is a thread about the Civ but the creator just stopped comming
Civ: Israeli
Leaders:
King David: Spiritual, Agressive
Itzjak Rabin: Spiritual, Expansive
Capital: Jerusalem
Flag:
Starting Techs: Mysticism and Hunting
Great Scientists : Chaim Weizmann, Asher Peres
Great Prophets : Moses, Rabi Akiva, Abraham, Moishe Filher
Great Artists : Shlomo Artzi, Naomi Shemer, Gene Simmons
Great Engineers : Jacob Ziv, Moshe Zakai
Unique Unit : Tzahal (Some kind of modern era soldier with the guerrilla improvement...)
Cities:
Tel Aviv
Haifa
Eilat
Jerico
Tiberias
Akko
Beer Sheva
Yafo
Gaza
Bet Lejem
Gaza
Nazareth
Masada
Arad
Petaj Tikva
Modin
Ariel
Los Tirano
God-King
Overlooked by many because now it is just a city (the vatican). You could have a number of different popes with differing traits for leaders. Urban II would be a must, as he started the crusades.
Unique unit: Jesuits. Cheaper missionaries, and convert some of the population (20-40%) to your civ when activated.
Second UU: papal guard. A re-skinned pikeman with an exceptional bonus to city defence. "We must defend the pope!"
Well i hope sombody makes this. Dieu le veult!
Unique unit: Jesuits. Cheaper missionaries, and convert some of the population (20-40%) to your civ when activated.
Second UU: papal guard. A re-skinned pikeman with an exceptional bonus to city defence. "We must defend the pope!"
Well i hope sombody makes this. Dieu le veult!
Los Tirano
God-King
It certainly would be awesome. However, his name was Vlad Tepes (pronounced Sepesh). He didnt expand his domains, only defended them from the Turks so he doesnt qualify for the expansive trait.
He did have a way with organizing the people and curbing crime so perhaps he warrants organized.
Thats right, his surname meant the son of the dragon (or devil). Well found mozza.
Agressive spiritual sounds right.
He did have a way with organizing the people and curbing crime so perhaps he warrants organized.Thats right, his surname meant the son of the dragon (or devil). Well found mozza.
Agressive spiritual sounds right.
This is sounding better and better. I'd be willing to do a lot of the legwork and writing for this if someone could do the programming and whatnot.
Hell, now that I think about it, a vampire civilization or mod might just be kewl.
O.
Hell, now that I think about it, a vampire civilization or mod might just be kewl.
O.
Los Tirano said:It certainly would be awesome. However, his name was Vlad Tepes (pronounced Sepesh). He didnt expand his domains, only defended them from the Turks so he doesnt qualify for the expansive trait.
His name was Vlad Dracula (Dracula meaning "son of The Dragon", his father was Vlad Dracul), Tepes, meaning "The Impaler" was a name given to him by his enemies. I think Aggressive and Spiritual.
Vlad III Dracula (November or December, 1431 – December 1476), has also been known as Dracula (also Drăculea — see below), or Vlad the Impaler (Vlad Ţepeş IPA: ['tsepeʃ] in Romanian). Vlad III was the voivode, or prince, of the principality of Wallachia (what is today an informal region in southern Romania). His three reigns were in 1448, from 1456 to 1462, and 1476. His surname 'Dracula' seems to come from his father's surname 'Dracul', due to the 'Order of the Dragon' he got from the German Emperor.
As voivode he led an independent policy in relation to the Ottoman Empire, and in Romania at least he is best remembered as a Christian knight crusading against Islamic expansionism into Europe and a prince with deep sense of justice. He is known in Turkish as Kazıklı Bey, or the Impaler Prince, and is a popular folk hero in Romania and Moldova even today.
Outside of Romania he is known by the exaggerated tales of atrocities (many of which stem from records of debatable authenticity), and even more so - the title of vampire and as the main character of Bram Stoker's 1897 horror novel, Dracula — to the point where he is thought to be the inspiration for it. It has been suggested that this connection stemmed from a certain grotesque eating habit of Vlad's: rumour has it he would consume bread dipped in his victims' blood and he refused to eat anywhere but his garden where he had his enemies impaled on 6 foot stakes that were driven into the ground.
His impact on Ottoman Empire expansion is recognizable in that his successful war against the Ottomans bought precious time for western Europe.
His post-mortem moniker of Ţepeş (Impaler) originated in his preferred method for executing his opponents, impalement, popularized by medieval Transylvanian pamphlets.
Commissar_Smith
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Two requests for new civis:
1) Dixie - yes I know that there's been several CSA civs made but the Confederacy was just a government - 5 years of a regional-nation that has existed for 250+ years. American Southerner would be the adjective. For leadership: Thomas Jefferson or Calhoun. I would go with Calhoun. Spiritual, Philos. or Creative would be the civ's characteristics. U Unit: mounted infantry (horseback guerillas) Make Atlanta the capital I guess.
2) Ulster - as in Ulster Protestants of Northern Ireland. Ulstermen for adjective? Characteristics: Spiritual and Aggressive. Leader: Ian Paisley. U Unit: Loyalist gunman. Capital: Belfast.
With the creation of Ulster you could create Eire with the same characteristics. It would be great to have a scenario of the Troubles with three players: British security forces, Ulster Protestants, Irish Catholics. You would have to apply invisibility to the paramilitary units of the UP and IC.
- Smith
smith_1988_tn@hotmail.com
1) Dixie - yes I know that there's been several CSA civs made but the Confederacy was just a government - 5 years of a regional-nation that has existed for 250+ years. American Southerner would be the adjective. For leadership: Thomas Jefferson or Calhoun. I would go with Calhoun. Spiritual, Philos. or Creative would be the civ's characteristics. U Unit: mounted infantry (horseback guerillas) Make Atlanta the capital I guess.
2) Ulster - as in Ulster Protestants of Northern Ireland. Ulstermen for adjective? Characteristics: Spiritual and Aggressive. Leader: Ian Paisley. U Unit: Loyalist gunman. Capital: Belfast.
With the creation of Ulster you could create Eire with the same characteristics. It would be great to have a scenario of the Troubles with three players: British security forces, Ulster Protestants, Irish Catholics. You would have to apply invisibility to the paramilitary units of the UP and IC.
- Smith
smith_1988_tn@hotmail.com
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