Till
Adventurer
Do Quebec's voting laws offer a way to vote via mail?
That might be another alternative.
That might be another alternative.
Quebec's tiff with the viel
- Thread starter Che Guava
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Stolen Rutters
Deity
Michigan, thankfully does not allow the election worker to ask for your ID so this is a non issue...
You simply sign a card verifying that you are you, and get your name checked off the list as someone who has recieved a ballot. If two people voted as you, both your votes are invalidated. (Someone moved, and is on the list in two districts.) There is no point trying to vote twice... your name will already be marked as having voted.
You simply sign a card verifying that you are you, and get your name checked off the list as someone who has recieved a ballot. If two people voted as you, both your votes are invalidated. (Someone moved, and is on the list in two districts.) There is no point trying to vote twice... your name will already be marked as having voted.
Che Guava
The Juicy Revolutionary
All good options, but I feel the need to point out that there are already measures in place to deal with anyone that doesn't want to show thier face, and that most muslim women don't have a problem with showing thier faces for security purposes. This is a debate about nothing over nothing and a waste of time, especially on the eve of a potentially important election...
So if you live in the same districit as I do, and I know you vote the opposite of me, I just have to drug you, or hit you strong enough on the head with a fish
to incapacitate your for a while. I go first, vote as myself. I come back a while later, perhaps with
, or with a 
so I cant be recognize to easily, and vote again as you.My side gets two votes. Your side gets none.
That's a really great system
Evie
Pronounced like Eevee
Che, as I explained the whole reason there is such a debate is because NO ONE knew you could actually vote veiled until today.
We're not raising a fuss over a perfectly working "way things were". We're raising a fuss over what amounts to a change, since, even if they are the same law, no one actually realized you could vote without showing your face.
No matter what you might like to think, letting people vote veiled is NOT the Statu Quo.
We're not raising a fuss over a perfectly working "way things were". We're raising a fuss over what amounts to a change, since, even if they are the same law, no one actually realized you could vote without showing your face.
No matter what you might like to think, letting people vote veiled is NOT the Statu Quo.
Che Guava
The Juicy Revolutionary
I don't think there are specific laws against, say, voting in the nude, either, but no-one is kicking up anything about that and accusing nudists of making life difficult for the rest of us...
Masquerouge
Deity
Yeah, I'm afraid this issue is NOT about Muslims.
Evie
Pronounced like Eevee
*Groans* Are you just not reading what I post?
For the THIRD time, the reason people are kicking up something about this now is because the *ELECTORAL OFFICER* made an *OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* *THIS WEEK* that his interpretation of the law meant women could vote with a veil on. Until then *NO ONE* realized you could do that.
It's NOT about people suddenly making a fuss over something we've all known was in the law for years. It's about people suddenly finding out that the law has idiotic loopholes they can't agree with.
You can be sure that if the electoral officer made an announcement that you could vote in the nude, even if it had been part of law since the XVth century or whatever, there WOULD be protests. (Plus, you can't - voting in the nude would be against public nudity laws)
Che Guava
The Juicy Revolutionary
I am reading your posts, it's the whole timing of the thing that makes me unsettled. The electoral officer received a question, and gave an answer, which is his job, cue the politicians who decide to seize on the issue, give it far more air-time than it deserves, and rustles up a nationalist campaign against it out of nothing. THAT is what bothers me.
Evie
Pronounced like Eevee
Actually, you got it a bit backward again.
-The officier received a question (or at least so you say).
-He gaves his answer in a public and formal manner.
-The MEDIA made it frontpage new (Before the politicians had the time to rustle up anything)
-THIS resulted in a massive public outcry.
-THEN the politicians jumped in on the bandwagon.
-The officier received a question (or at least so you say).
-He gaves his answer in a public and formal manner.
-The MEDIA made it frontpage new (Before the politicians had the time to rustle up anything)
-THIS resulted in a massive public outcry.
-THEN the politicians jumped in on the bandwagon.
Che Guava
The Juicy Revolutionary
Whether the media or the politicians blew it up (or if you don't see a real distinction between them anymore, and I'm starting to), the point remains it is a waste of discussion time when more relevant things are happening.
Evie
Pronounced like Eevee
I'm not so sure. How much place we should give to immigrants' culture is definitely a major political issue now.
It should not be, but there have been several poor judgement calls (this one, just about every judgement call involving women and hassidic jews, etc) made, and that has led to lots of people questioning the very concept of multiculturalism. Trying to ignore the brushfires started by those poor judgement calls as "unimportant" will only radicalize their phobia further, to the point where we might wind up with an ADQ government that would actually attempt to alter the constitutional rights of minority, instead of just making sure the existing constitution is respected.
We'd all like to think Québecers are progressive thinking individuals, but the truth is, most of the progressive, liberal Québecers are concentrated in Montreal and the immediate suburbs (up to the Richelieu or thereabout ; while my county looks like it will be PQ again, both the ones immediately south and east are at risk of flipping to the ADQ), with a few focus points around mid-size urban centers outside that (Sherbrooke-Magog, etc). Once you're out of these areas, and even in some of the lesser urban centers (looking at YOU, Quebec City!) are decidedly not on the same end of the spectrum.
It should not be, but there have been several poor judgement calls (this one, just about every judgement call involving women and hassidic jews, etc) made, and that has led to lots of people questioning the very concept of multiculturalism. Trying to ignore the brushfires started by those poor judgement calls as "unimportant" will only radicalize their phobia further, to the point where we might wind up with an ADQ government that would actually attempt to alter the constitutional rights of minority, instead of just making sure the existing constitution is respected.
We'd all like to think Québecers are progressive thinking individuals, but the truth is, most of the progressive, liberal Québecers are concentrated in Montreal and the immediate suburbs (up to the Richelieu or thereabout ; while my county looks like it will be PQ again, both the ones immediately south and east are at risk of flipping to the ADQ), with a few focus points around mid-size urban centers outside that (Sherbrooke-Magog, etc). Once you're out of these areas, and even in some of the lesser urban centers (looking at YOU, Quebec City!) are decidedly not on the same end of the spectrum.
