Question on heaven...

[garric]

If a child dies, is he a child in heaven? Will he ever grow up to be an adult?
What about a fetus?
What about someone suffering from alzheimers? Will a person lose his mind while in heaven?


Can someone explain what would happen in these situations, and others. Thanks.

 

[CaptainF]

Heaven is not where you continue your life.

Heaven is where you just exist as an essence. You are transcendent.

 

[garric]

Heaven is not where you continue your life.

Heaven is where you just exist as an essence. You are transcendent.

Could you elaborate?

 

[Elta]

If a child dies, is he a child in heaven? Will he ever grow up to be an adult?
What about a fetus?
What about someone suffering from alzheimers? Will a person lose his mind while in heaven?


Can someone explain what would happen in these situations, and others. Thanks.

I am not a christan myself but I was told when I was in church school that in heaven everyone is 33, the same as jesus at death allthou I take it there's no biblical source for that.

 

[CaptainF]

You are not confined by a mere body. You exist without all of its limitations.

 

[garric]

You are not confined by a mere body. You exist without all of its limitations.

So how would a fetus know what to do while in heaven? It doesn't have any life experience at all; what will it be?

 

[Mr Moron]

If it exists my idea of heaven is that sort of fuzzy feeling you have when you have wake up on weekend when you have nothing to do. You aren't really fully awake, but you are aware of yourself but not much else. Your eyes are shut, or perhaps just barely open to let in a little bit of light. You've got this sense of warmth all over you, and your mind is just totally blank. You aren't really feeling any emotion or having any thoughts except that vague feeling of contentment. I really love that feeling, I could deal with that for enternity.

It's rather, huge gaping "If" though. One i'm rather skeptical of, but it would be nice. It would be very nice.

 

[King Flevance]

Upon going into Heaven God shares His wisdom with you. He will grant you divine knowledge and you will be able to instantly understand existance. By doing this you become wise yourself. So a child will be as wise as someone that died and went to heaven at age 77. Heaven exists outside of time so there will be no aging. So mentally, everyone will be the same age.

As for the body, it will not be of flesh. That's all I know. I do believe you will have a form of "personal appearance" but this may not be a "visual" attribute through eyesight but instead through presence. (sp?)

 

[CaptainF]

So how would a fetus know what to do while in heaven? It doesn't have any life experience at all; what will it be?

I don't know, its heaven after all.

I believe that it would merely find its way around. Heaven transcends time, so would the spirits embodied in it.

 

[Pyrite]

"So how would a fetus know what to do while in heaven? It doesn't have any life experience at all; what will it be?"

Dead decaying life matter.
That shall experience effects similar to PCP and DMT hallucinations before it dies.
This thread is more about...hey....what would be cool to happen once you died?

Man...we'd all be 33 years old...and really smart, we would understand stuff!

 

[jalapeno_dude]

If a child dies, is he a child in heaven? Will he ever grow up to be an adult?
What about a fetus?
What about someone suffering from alzheimers? Will a person lose his mind while in heaven?


Can someone explain what would happen in these situations, and others. Thanks.

This is a common mistake not found in the Bible: the immortality of the body. The Bible, and indeed most "proofs" of God (like those of Descartes and Leibniz) postulate the immortality of the soul.

 

[Shadylookin]

the bible doesn't really go into detail explinations of heaven or what you're going to do for eternity(that i've read)

though some scientists have determined it will be hotter than hell

 

[King Flevance]

I believe the mind is a translator to your body from your soul. Your soul speaks Chinese as your body speaks English. The brain translates.

 

[RameNoodle]

I have a Catholic education, and actually, just learned about this the past school year. When you die and go to heaven, you are. You simply exist in perfect harmony with God. Its supposed to be ambiguous like that.
In heaven, there is no linear time. We live in Chronos, linear time, while God and Heaven are in Kairos, which isn't really time at all. It is a state of being in which everything that ever has occured has occured and everything in the future, from our Chronological death, has also occured. So, while you're in Heaven, humanity hasn't even begun, yet God has already given His final judgment on the earth. Its pretty complicated.

 

[homeyg]

See this is where the idea of heaven is flawed, that's why I believe my own little version of reincarnation.

You have had past lives, but your memory of them and experience is sort of whiped clean when you start a new round of life, and you don't ever remember your past lives while you are mortal, yet you have a separate memory of them while you are immortal and waiting to go in again. There is no age, just all the experience you have from all of your lives, and if while you are mortal, you die young, nothing really happens.

 

[Pyrite]

"See this is where the idea of heaven is flawed, that's why I believe my own little version of reincarnation."

Well this doesn't make sense so it must be wrong. I'll just make something else up that sounds cooler and less liable to inconsistencies.

 

[Stylesjl]

Whatever you want heaven to be! After all its a nice fairytale, why stop the fantasy with cold, hard, sceptiscism?

 

[El_Machinae]

The person you are now, and the fetus, and your sick gramma, etc. are all 3D creatures. But, with the theory of the soul, you're more than just a 3D creature, you're a 4D creature.

It doesn't matter how much of life you experience in the 3D, it doesn't change the quality of the 4D creature. Just like how it doesn't matter how far an ant walks on a mobeius strip, the size of the mobius strip doesn't change.

*technically, we're 4D creatures (if you count time as a dimension), and so in Heaven we'd be 5D creatures.

 

[civ2]

El_Machinae
Good one about 4D.
I think the soul has only 1D - which alludes to its "spiritual level".
Or there are NO D's at all!

 

[El_Machinae]

Well, there clearly are dimensions if we're going to use real-life experience. I mean, *I* live my life as if there are dimensions (I stand UP from the table and move OVER to the coffee, etc.). There can't be fewer than 3 dimensions, if we're having a discussion.

Some think of Heaven as timeless, and so that means everyone is in Heaven instantly and coincidently (Moses is with me, up there). Though I think the story of Elisha or Elijah contradicts this.