Question on heaven...
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MrCynical
Deity
If heaven exists at all, I would assume that everyone would either be able to be any age they like, and change at will, or no specific age at all. Anything else would seem to imply a rather serious physical limitation on heaven, and hence impede its ability to reward.
When an age is required for Jesus at the crucifixion, it often seems to be rather arbitrarily assigned as 33. Probably this is connected to the rather strange idea that everyone would be 33 in heaven.
When an age is required for Jesus at the crucifixion, it often seems to be rather arbitrarily assigned as 33. Probably this is connected to the rather strange idea that everyone would be 33 in heaven.
Heaven, after the end of time, will be when we have our physical bodies. Fetus' and old peoples will have physically fit bodies, even if they never would have had one. But until the end of time we will be souls in Heaven.
What I find intriguing is the question of whether some types of people will be 'more' in Heaven vs. others. Will I be better, in some way, than a child who died at 2? On Earth, I have advantages (the ability to alter my environment, more memories and knowledges) ... so would that translate into some advantage in Heaven?
garric said:
I can say that the Bible clearly states that there will be no suffering in heaven, so your Alzheimer's man will be cured.
The age question is irrelevant actually, because we'll be given new, perfected physical bodies suited for eternity.
I would think that strong egos would not be welcome in Heaven. It would appear to be a place that is all about god and being satisfied by merely being in his presence.El_Machinae said:
Yes, but a man with alzheimers has lost much of his mental capacity, he will have it returned in heaven?puglover said:I can say that the Bible clearly states that there will be no suffering in heaven, so your Alzheimer's man will be cured.
Do aborted fetuses go to heaven?
Birdjaguar said:
You're saying, then, that all the egos are gone by the time they get there, and that there's no difference in quality.
Well then, the abortion & heaven question really becomes important.
Birdjaguar said:
God could see if that child would have accepted God if she had been allowed to live, since he sees beyond time. Thus, even though the child was aborted, the judgment would still be ruled, for or against the child, depending on where she would have put her faith.
Since christians believe that individuality is retained in heaven, unless egos are purged of any bad traits, trouble will start brewing pretty quickly whne you cut in front of me in line on the way to morning worship.El_Machinae said:
Do naturally miscarried fetues go to heaven? Are they treated differently by god than those aborted by a doctor?
Veritass
Emperor
You have it all backwards. You are asking the question as if you are in your essence a human being that will eventually have a spiritual experience in heaven. You are actually in your essence a spiritual being, that is currently choosing to have a human experience. Once you are complete with that human experience, you will rejoin the one consciousness (in "heaven").
Ah, thanks.
Here I felt guilty about killing babies ... but at least they suffer no long term harm!
Here I felt guilty about killing babies ... but at least they suffer no long term harm!
Thank you. No reason to turn this thread into an abortion debate.puglover said:
Are you talking to me?Veritass said:
Veritass
Emperor
I was responding to the original post. It's not all about you, BirdJaguar.Birdjaguar said:
I thought it was all about Perfection. And BTW, I do sorta agree with your post.Veritass said:I was responding to the original post. It's not all about you, BirdJaguar.
