Questions about The BUG Mod

JMV · Sep 26, 2010

For your Info:
This is the type of error message I get after I tried again installing the BULL with no success.
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Sid Meier's Civ 4 : BTS has encountered a problem and needs to close. Sorry, bla bla
If you were in the middle of something...bla

Please tell Microsoft about this problem
Bla..
Bla..

To see what data this error report contains, click here
..............................................Send error Report....................Don't send
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So you click, and you get :
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Error signature
AppName civ4beyondsword.exe AppVer: 3.1.3.1 ModName:ccgamecoredll.dll
ModVer:0.0.0.0. Offset:00066600
Reporting Details
Bla...bla...bla
To view technical information about the error report, click here
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So you click, and it start like this : ( Only the start because it has 100 pages or so )
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Exception Information
Code: 0xc0000005 Flags:0x00000000
Record: 0x000000000000 Address: 0x00000000021e6600

System Information
Bla bla

Module 1
Civ4BeyondSword.exe
Image Base: 0x00400000 Image Size: 0x00000000
Checksum: 0x00c16782 Time Stamp: 0x48317e8a
Version Information
bla...bla

Module 2
ntdll.dll
Bla ( infos formatted as above )

+ 51 other modules formatted as above ( all dll files )
among which the one that causes the error...

Module 49
cvGameCoreDLL.dll
Image Base: 0x02180000 Image Size: 0x00000000
Checksum: 0x00000000 Time Stamp: 0x4bf0f83a
Version Information
Signature: 00000000
StrucVer:
FileVer:
ProdVer:
FlagMask:
Flags: (Zeros everywhere as above)
OS:
FileType:
SubType:
FileDate:

After that comes
Thread 1
Thread ID:
and then a 100 pages of Stack numbers of which I give the first line for idea of format

0x0012d960: 0065006d 7c90df4a 7c809590 000000002 m.e.j.../.../...
etc...

On the written part on the right side of the numbers I could discern the following :

WINDOWS\system32\faulrep...dll
....
WINDOWS\system32\faulrep.watson.microsoft.com
.....
F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4
.....
Complete\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe
....
EI..ReportFault etc..
WINDOWS\system32\faultrep...dll...AI @@xz.d@CyArgsList@@QAEXPBD@ZX

And it follows like that for very long...

Hope you can figure out the type of error message, if not the cause.

Lemon Merchant · Sep 26, 2010

Let me see if I can help.

1. BAT does not install anything into CustomAssets. It is a self contained mod, and while it includes BUG and BULL, it does not require them to be installed in order to run. It is meant to be loaded as a mod.
2. BAT can only be installed into either "F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Mods" or "C:\Documents and
Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\MODS" on your system. No other places will work.
3. BAT has it's own CvGameCore.dll, and will ignore the normal one. It will also ignore anything that you put into CustomAssets, including the BUG Mod. BAT is self contained.
4. Putting BAT into "F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Mods" will not cause it to launch automatically. If you just start BTS, you will only get BTS, unless you go to the Mods screen and load BAT once BTS is loaded.
5. If you wish to have BULL start up with every game, it must go into "F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets" and you must rename the original DLL file before you move the BULL DLL there.
6. BULL 1.2 does not support some of the optional features unless you recompile the DLL using Visual C++ 2005. That means that Sentry Actions, Global Warming, AI Autoplay, and the like don't work in standard BULL. You need to know something about working with the SDK for that to work, unless EF has changed that in the next release.

I hope that helps. The reason that you are getting the DLL errors is likely that the DLL file does not match the game XML files, or something is missing. I have no idea why BAT won't just install where it is supposed to for you, but if the installer allows you to choose an install path, use either of the paths I listed in item 2.

JMV · Sep 26, 2010

Thank you Lemon Merchant

I will actually read you tomorrow bacause I'm wrecked and have to go to bed. Will do that first thing in the morning...

However I have been into Dr Watson's Log file and this is what I can See ( If that can help ) As for me as you know I am a noob, and can't have any of that

Extract :
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson\drwtsn32.log
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Application exception occurred:
App: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe (pid=1284)
When: 27/09/2010 @ 02:47:01.765
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)

*----> System Information <----*
Computer Name: OWNER-YH0YRT8A4
User Name: Owner
Terminal Session Id: 0
Number of Processors: 1
Processor Type: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9
Windows Version: 5.1
Current Build: 2600
Service Pack: 3
Current Type: Uniprocessor Free
Registered Organization:
Registered Owner: Owner

*----> Task List <----*
0 System Process
4 System
704 smss.exe
772 csrss.exe
796 winlogon.exe
840 services.exe
852 lsass.exe
1020 svchost.exe
1088 svchost.exe
1224 svchost.exe
1252 InCDsrv.exe
1352 avgchsvx.exe
1360 avgrsx.exe
1448 avgcsrvx.exe
1644 svchost.exe
1780 svchost.exe
1956 spoolsv.exe
1164 Explorer.EXE
2004 jusched.exe
208 RUNDLL32.EXE
264 svchost.exe
280 issch.exe
364 ISRMonitor.exe
384 InCD.exe
412 E_FATIBEE.EXE
452 avgwdsvc.exe
456 avgtray.exe
1160 rundll32.exe
1072 PWRISOVM.EXE
1816 jqs.exe
1904 mssysmgr.exe
2064 msmsgs.exe
2096 ctfmon.exe
2116 MagicDisc.exe
2168 nvsvc32.exe
2280 svchost.exe
2948 avgnsx.exe
3884 alg.exe
1284 Civ4BeyondSword.exe
1608 firefox.exe
2784 drwtsn32.exe

*----> Module List <----*
(0000000000340000 - 0000000000353000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\zlib1.dll
(0000000000360000 - 000000000036e000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\hapdbg.dll
(0000000000400000 - 0000000001039000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe
(0000000001040000 - 00000000013af000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3dx9_33.dll
(0000000001d90000 - 0000000001f04000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nview.dll
(0000000001fd0000 - 0000000002016000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVWRSENG.DLL
(0000000002180000 - 000000000268d000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets\CvGameCoreDLL.dll
(0000000010000000 - 000000001002b000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\boost_python-vc71-mt-1_32.dll
(0000000018000000 - 0000000018038000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\binkw32.dll
(000000001e000000 - 000000001e1ca000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\python24.dll
(0000000021100000 - 000000002118c000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\mss32.dll
(000000005ad70000 - 000000005ada8000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll
(000000005b0a0000 - 000000005b0a7000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\umdmxfrm.dll
(000000005b860000 - 000000005b8b5000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NETAPI32.dll
(000000005cd70000 - 000000005cd77000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\serwvdrv.dll
(000000005d090000 - 000000005d12a000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
(0000000071aa0000 - 0000000071aa8000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
(0000000071ab0000 - 0000000071ac7000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
(0000000071bf0000 - 0000000071c03000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
(0000000073f10000 - 0000000073f6c000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.dll
(0000000074720000 - 000000007476c000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll
(0000000076390000 - 00000000763ad000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL
(0000000076980000 - 0000000076988000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\LINKINFO.dll
(0000000076990000 - 00000000769b5000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntshrui.dll
(00000000769c0000 - 0000000076a74000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
(0000000076b20000 - 0000000076b31000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATL.DLL
(0000000076b40000 - 0000000076b6d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
(0000000076bf0000 - 0000000076bfb000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
(0000000076f60000 - 0000000076f8c000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
(0000000076fd0000 - 000000007704f000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CLBCATQ.DLL
(0000000077050000 - 0000000077115000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMRes.dll
(0000000077120000 - 00000000771ab000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
(00000000773d0000 - 00000000774d3000: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.5512_x-ww_35d4ce83\comctl32.dll
(00000000774e0000 - 000000007761d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
(0000000077690000 - 00000000776b1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
(0000000077920000 - 0000000077a13000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.dll
(0000000077b40000 - 0000000077b62000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Apphelp.dll
(0000000077c00000 - 0000000077c08000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
(0000000077c10000 - 0000000077c68000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
(0000000077dd0000 - 0000000077e6b000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
(0000000077e70000 - 0000000077f03000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
(0000000077f10000 - 0000000077f59000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
(0000000077f60000 - 0000000077fd6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
(0000000077fe0000 - 0000000077ff1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Secur32.dll
(000000007c340000 - 000000007c396000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\MSVCR71.dll
(000000007c3a0000 - 000000007c41b000: F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\MSVCP71.dll
(000000007c800000 - 000000007c8f6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
(000000007c900000 - 000000007c9b2000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
(000000007c9c0000 - 000000007d1d7000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
(000000007e410000 - 000000007e4a1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll

*----> State Dump for Thread Id 0x164 <----*

eax=021e6600 ebx=003f7210 ecx=00000000 edx=00000008 esi=0012faec edi=0f007a5c
eip=021e6600 esp=0012fabc ebp=0091256b iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz ac pe nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000212

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets\CvGameCoreDLL.dll
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets\CvGameCoreDLL.dll -
function: CvGameCoreDLL!CvGame__isDebugMode
021e658c e80f660f00 call CvGameCoreDLL!CvPlayer__getAdvancedStartBuildingCost+0x1410 (022dcba0)
021e6591 84c0 test al,al
021e6593 8bce mov ecx,esi
021e6595 7415 jz CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInterface+0x19c (021e65ac)
021e6597 57 push edi
021e6598 53 push ebx
021e6599 e852410e00 call CvGameCoreDLL!CvPlayer__launch+0x350 (022ca6f0)
021e659e 84c0 test al,al
021e65a0 7541 jnz CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInterface+0x1d3 (021e65e3)
021e65a2 5f pop edi
021e65a3 5e pop esi
021e65a4 5d pop ebp
021e65a5 32c0 xor al,al
021e65a7 5b pop ebx
021e65a8 59 pop ecx
021e65a9 c20800 ret 0x8
021e65ac e87fbf0d00 call CvGameCoreDLL!CvPlayer__isAlive (022c2530)
021e65b1 84c0 test al,al
021e65b3 742e jz CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInterface+0x1d3 (021e65e3)
021e65b5 8bce mov ecx,esi
021e65b7 e8b4e80d00 call CvGameCoreDLL!CvPlayer__isBarbarian (022c4e70)
021e65bc 84c0 test al,al
021e65be 7523 jnz CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInterface+0x1d3 (021e65e3)
021e65c0 8bce mov ecx,esi
021e65c2 e849bf0d00 call CvGameCoreDLL!CvPlayer__getTotalTimePlayed+0x20 (022c2510)
021e65c7 84c0 test al,al
021e65c9 7518 jnz CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInterface+0x1d3 (021e65e3)
021e65cb 8b17 mov edx,[edi]
021e65cd 52 push edx
021e65ce b9a8df6102 mov ecx,0x261dfa8
021e65d3 e8183d0900 call CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getTurnTimerInfo+0x40 (0227a2f0)
021e65d8 8bc8 mov ecx,eax
021e65da e8f1a50a00 call CvGameCoreDLL!CvAnimationPathInfo__isMissionPath+0x10 (02290bd0)
021e65df 84c0 test al,al
021e65e1 75bf jnz CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInterface+0x192 (021e65a2)
021e65e3 81c5a0050000 add ebp,0x5a0
021e65e9 81fd40650000 cmp ebp,0x6540
021e65ef 7c8f jl CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInterface+0x170 (021e6580)
021e65f1 5f pop edi
021e65f2 5e pop esi
021e65f3 5d pop ebp
021e65f4 b001 mov al,0x1
021e65f6 5b pop ebx
021e65f7 59 pop ecx
021e65f8 c20800 ret 0x8
021e65fb cc int 3
021e65fc cc int 3
021e65fd cc int 3
021e65fe cc int 3
021e65ff cc int 3
FAULT ->CvGameCoreDLL!CvGame__isDebugMode:
021e6600 8a4163 mov al,[ecx+0x63] ds:0023:00000063=??
021e6603 c3 ret
021e6604 cc int 3
021e6605 cc int 3
021e6606 cc int 3
021e6607 cc int 3
021e6608 cc int 3
021e6609 cc int 3
021e660a cc int 3
021e660b cc int 3
021e660c cc int 3
021e660d cc int 3
021e660e cc int 3
021e660f cc int 3
CvGameCoreDLL!CvGame__updateDebugModeCache:
021e6610 56 push esi
021e6611 8bf1 mov esi,ecx
021e6613 8b0d50e96102 mov ecx,[CvGameCoreDLL+0x49e950 (0261e950)]
021e6619 8b01 mov eax,[ecx]
021e661b ff9090000000 call dword ptr [eax+0x90]
021e6621 85c0 test eax,eax
021e6623 7f17 jg CvGameCoreDLL!CvGame__updateDebugModeCache+0x2c (021e663c)
021e6625 8b0d50e96102 mov ecx,[CvGameCoreDLL+0x49e950 (0261e950)]
021e662b 8b11 mov edx,[ecx]
021e662d ff9298000000 call dword ptr [edx+0x98]
021e6633 84c0 test al,al
021e6635 7505 jnz CvGameCoreDLL!CvGame__updateDebugModeCache+0x2c (021e663c)
021e6637 884663 mov [esi+0x63],al
021e663a 5e pop esi
021e663b c3 ret
021e663c 8a4662 mov al,[esi+0x62]
021e663f 884663 mov [esi+0x63],al
021e6642 5e pop esi
021e6643 c3 ret
021e6644 cc int 3
021e6645 cc int 3
021e6646 cc int 3
021e6647 cc int 3
021e6648 cc int 3
021e6649 cc int 3
021e664a cc int 3
021e664b cc int 3
021e664c cc int 3
021e664d cc int 3
021e664e cc int 3
021e664f cc int 3
CvGameCoreDLL!CvGame__getPitbossTurnTime:
021e6650 b9a8df6102 mov ecx,0x261dfa8
021e6655 e876fdffff call CvGameCoreDLL!CvGlobals__getInitCore (021e63d0)
021e665a 8b80c4000000 mov eax,[eax+0xc4]
021e6660 c3 ret

*----> Stack Back Trace <----*
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
0091256b fdc9e900 c0b8ffff e900becb fffffdbf CvGameCoreDLL!CvGame__isDebugMode
becbbcb8 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0xfdc9e900

*----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
000000000012fabc 03 64 4e 00 5c 7a 00 0f - a4 72 3f 00 10 72 3f 00 .dN.\z...r?..r?.
000000000012facc 10 72 3f 00 ec fa 12 00 - 2e be 3b 02 9c fc 12 00 .r?.......;.....
000000000012fadc c0 37 a5 00 ff ff ff ff - a4 ae 4e 00 98 6e 00 0f .7........N..n..
000000000012faec 20 80 00 0f b8 16 34 7c - 5c 7a 00 0f 10 00 00 00 .....4|\z......
000000000012fafc 10 72 3f 00 00 00 3f 00 - 00 00 00 00 f4 fa 12 00 .r?...?.........
000000000012fb0c 5c 7a 00 0f 9c fc 12 00 - 0d 24 34 7c a8 a2 37 7c \z.......$4|..7|
000000000012fb1c ff ff ff ff b8 16 34 7c - db 16 34 7c 10 00 00 00 ......4|..4|....
000000000012fb2c f8 16 34 7c 10 00 00 00 - 4b 23 91 00 48 dc b9 00 ..4|....K#..H...
000000000012fb3c 01 00 00 00 cf 59 38 02 - a4 72 3f 00 e8 ae 40 00 .....Y8..r?...@.
000000000012fb4c 10 72 3f 00 40 73 3f 00 - 10 72 3f 00 00 00 00 00 .r?.@s?..r?.....
000000000012fb5c fc 7b 00 0f 6c 7d 00 0f - 00 00 00 00 d4 78 00 0f .{..l}.......x..
000000000012fb6c d4 75 00 0f 58 09 3f 00 - 98 6e 00 0f 10 72 3f 00 .u..X.?..n...r?.
000000000012fb7c 5c 7a 00 0f 24 7a 00 0f - b3 16 34 7c a4 72 3f 00 \z..$z....4|.r?.
000000000012fb8c 00 00 00 00 b8 16 34 7c - a4 75 00 0f 24 00 00 00 ......4|.u..$...
000000000012fb9c 24 00 00 00 20 e9 90 7c - e0 01 91 7c 94 fb 12 00 $... ..|...|....
000000000012fbac db 01 91 7c fc fb 12 00 - 0d 24 34 7c a8 a2 37 7c ...|.....$4|..7|
000000000012fbbc ff ff ff ff b8 16 34 7c - db 16 34 7c 24 00 00 00 ......4|..4|$...
000000000012fbcc f8 16 34 7c 24 00 00 00 - 78 00 00 00 ba 93 91 00 ..4|$...x.......
000000000012fbdc d0 d5 ff 0e 53 6b 66 00 - 09 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 ....Skf.....$...
000000000012fbec 00 00 00 00 d1 ed 6a 00 - 48 75 00 0f 44 a7 3f 00 ......j.Hu..D.?.
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I Have no idea, but hope that can help the big brains that you are...finding the cause of those cvcoredll.dll errors

I repeat Lemon Merchant I read you first thing tomorrow morning. Thanks for that and everybody else. Night,night !

EmperorFool · Sep 26, 2010

I have no idea why you're getting this DLL error or what it means. I can say that you shouldn't get that so I don't know what to do in this case. I doubt you're using a modified DLL already, so maybe there's something amiss with your game. Have you absolutely, positively patched to BTS 3.19? Please post a screen shot from the game's ADVANCED : ABOUT THIS BUILD screen.

The features of BULL are the DLL. The assets included with BULL just provide the text and graphics for those features. Without the DLL, BULL is nothing. If you cannot get it (or BAT) to work, you'll have to live with BUG alone. I bet we can get it working, though.

JMV · Sep 27, 2010

OK, we're not there yet but despite the fact that it still doesn't work, some new ( strange ) things have developped...

First, thank you Lemon Merchant ( To which I had not answered last night )

I want to make sure I understand something in what you say : (Your quotes Follow )

"2. BAT can only be installed into either "F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Mods" or "C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\MODS" on your system. No other places will work." After you write...
"5. If you wish to have BULL start up with every game, it must go into "F:\Program Files\Games\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets" and you must rename the original DLL file before you move the BULL DLL there."
So please tell me if I understand correctly...
I want to have BULL start up with every game. So what I have to do is install BAT
in "C:\...\My Games\Beyond the Sword\MODS" and on the other hand
go to "F:\...\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets" rename the original ccgamecoredll.dll into ccgamecoredll-Original.dll ( For example ) and then pick the ccgamecoredll.dll which is in BAT Mod 2.3\Assets and copy paste it in
"F:\...\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets"
DO I GET THIS RIGHT ?
Thanks for trying to help me anyway

SECOND, thank you EmperorFool too

I was pretty sure I had installed the 3.19 patch the other day when I reinstalled my game, and was going to the "ABOUT THIS BUILD" screen.to answer you and tell you
"See.. It's patched to 3.19 !!" Well it was not :mad:

because it was saying Civ Version 3.17. So it it most probable that I did not read well and that it was patching 3.17 instead of 3.19.
But that's not the end of it....
So I get in the game, DL the 3.19 patch, then it gets out of the game automatically to install the patch.....few seconds waiting for the Install Wizzard, choose you language thingy and then suddently I get a rectangular warning window with on top left the red circle with the white cross in it and on the right of the crossed red dot icon written as title "Sid Meier's Civilization 4-Beyond the Sword-InstallShield Wizzard
Below that there is normally a reason for the warning message but here it is BLANK ?
So I press ok and the install is VOID.
So I go into C:\...\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Patch ( where the 2.12 MB PATCH_319.exe is, and copy it to F:\...\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword. From there I open the patch and try again with the same result...
My God this is stronger than coffee ! Thought I was getting near to having it right by patching to 3.19 and blast, now I can't even install the patch ! :cry:

If that can help you in any way ( in helping me ), I give what was printed in the
drwtsn32.log after my failed attempt whith the 3.19 Install Wizzard
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Application exception occurred:
App: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Patch\PATCH_319.exe (pid=2212)
When: 27/09/2010 @ 11:21:49.515
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)

*----> System Information <----*
Computer Name: OWNER-YH0YRT8A4
User Name: Owner
Terminal Session Id: 0
Number of Processors: 1
Processor Type: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9
Windows Version: 5.1
Current Build: 2600
Service Pack: 3
Current Type: Uniprocessor Free
Registered Organization:
Registered Owner: Owner

*----> Task List <----*
0 System Process
4 System
704 smss.exe
772 csrss.exe
796 winlogon.exe
840 services.exe
852 lsass.exe
1020 svchost.exe
1088 svchost.exe
1224 svchost.exe
1252 InCDsrv.exe
1352 avgchsvx.exe
1360 avgrsx.exe
1448 avgcsrvx.exe
1644 svchost.exe
1780 svchost.exe
1956 spoolsv.exe
1164 Explorer.EXE
2004 jusched.exe
208 RUNDLL32.EXE
264 svchost.exe
280 issch.exe
364 ISRMonitor.exe
384 InCD.exe
412 E_FATIBEE.EXE
452 avgwdsvc.exe
456 avgtray.exe
1160 rundll32.exe
1072 PWRISOVM.EXE
1816 jqs.exe
1904 mssysmgr.exe
2064 msmsgs.exe
2096 ctfmon.exe
2116 MagicDisc.exe
2168 nvsvc32.exe
2280 svchost.exe
2948 avgnsx.exe
3884 alg.exe
3488 isuspm.exe
3156 agent.exe
3296 firefox.exe
2212 PATCH_319.exe
1176 drwtsn32.exe

*----> Module List <----*
(0000000000400000 - 0000000000471000: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Patch\PATCH_319.exe
(0000000000ab0000 - 0000000000af6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVWRSENG.DLL
(0000000010000000 - 0000000010174000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nview.dll
(000000005ad70000 - 000000005ada8000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll
(000000005b0a0000 - 000000005b0a7000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\umdmxfrm.dll
(000000005b860000 - 000000005b8b5000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\netapi32.dll
(000000005cd70000 - 000000005cd77000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\serwvdrv.dll
(0000000068000000 - 0000000068036000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsaenh.dll
(0000000071bf0000 - 0000000071c03000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
(0000000073dc0000 - 0000000073dc3000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\LZ32.dll
(0000000074720000 - 000000007476c000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll
(0000000076390000 - 00000000763ad000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL
(00000000769c0000 - 0000000076a74000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
(0000000076b40000 - 0000000076b6d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
(0000000076bf0000 - 0000000076bfb000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
(0000000076f60000 - 0000000076f8c000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
(0000000077120000 - 00000000771ab000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
(00000000773d0000 - 00000000774d3000: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\X86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.5512_x-ww_35d4ce83\COMCTL32.dll
(00000000774e0000 - 000000007761d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
(0000000077690000 - 00000000776b1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
(0000000077a80000 - 0000000077b15000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Crypt32.dll
(0000000077b20000 - 0000000077b32000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
(0000000077b40000 - 0000000077b62000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Apphelp.dll
(0000000077c00000 - 0000000077c08000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
(0000000077c10000 - 0000000077c68000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
(0000000077dd0000 - 0000000077e6b000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
(0000000077e70000 - 0000000077f03000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
(0000000077f10000 - 0000000077f59000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
(0000000077f60000 - 0000000077fd6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
(0000000077fe0000 - 0000000077ff1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Secur32.dll
(000000007c800000 - 000000007c8f6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
(000000007c900000 - 000000007c9b2000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
(000000007c9c0000 - 000000007d1d7000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
(000000007e410000 - 000000007e4a1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll

*----> State Dump for Thread Id 0x478 <----*

eax=00000000 ebx=003a89a0 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=00000000 edi=0012e578
eip=0041ec42 esp=0012e54c ebp=0012e558 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Patch\PATCH_319.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Patch\PATCH_319.exe
function: PATCH_319
0041ebc8 55 push ebp
0041ebc9 8bec mov ebp,esp
0041ebcb 51 push ecx
0041ebcc 51 push ecx
0041ebcd 56 push esi
0041ebce 57 push edi
0041ebcf 8bf1 mov esi,ecx
0041ebd1 ff15e0714400 call dword ptr [PATCH_319+0x471e0 (004471e0)]
0041ebd7 8b8e0c010000 mov ecx,[esi+0x10c]
0041ebdd 8365fc00 and dword ptr [ebp-0x4],0x0
0041ebe1 85c9 test ecx,ecx
0041ebe3 8945f8 mov [ebp-0x8],eax
0041ebe6 bfc7040000 mov edi,0x4c7
0041ebeb 7410 jz PATCH_319+0x1ebfd (0041ebfd)
0041ebed 8b01 mov eax,[ecx]
0041ebef 56 push esi
0041ebf0 ff10 call dword ptr [eax]
0041ebf2 3d002f0000 cmp eax,0x2f00
0041ebf7 7429 jz PATCH_319+0x1ec22 (0041ec22)
0041ebf9 3bc7 cmp eax,edi
0041ebfb 7425 jz PATCH_319+0x1ec22 (0041ec22)
0041ebfd 8d45fc lea eax,[ebp-0x4]
0041ec00 50 push eax
0041ec01 6a07 push 0x7
0041ec03 ff7608 push dword ptr [esi+0x8]
0041ec06 ff7604 push dword ptr [esi+0x4]
0041ec09 ffb608010000 push dword ptr [esi+0x108]
0041ec0f e810eaffff call PATCH_319+0x1d624 (0041d624)
0041ec14 83c414 add esp,0x14
0041ec17 3bc7 cmp eax,edi
0041ec19 7409 jz PATCH_319+0x1ec24 (0041ec24)
0041ec1b bf002f0000 mov edi,0x2f00
0041ec20 eb02 jmp PATCH_319+0x1ec24 (0041ec24)
0041ec22 8bf8 mov edi,eax
0041ec24 ff75f8 push dword ptr [ebp-0x8]
0041ec27 ff15dc714400 call dword ptr [PATCH_319+0x471dc (004471dc)]
0041ec2d 8bc7 mov eax,edi
0041ec2f 5f pop edi
0041ec30 5e pop esi
0041ec31 c9 leave
0041ec32 c3 ret
0041ec33 55 push ebp
0041ec34 8bec mov ebp,esp
0041ec36 53 push ebx
0041ec37 56 push esi
0041ec38 57 push edi
0041ec39 8b7d10 mov edi,[ebp+0x10]
0041ec3c 8bf1 mov esi,ecx
0041ec3e 33c0 xor eax,eax
0041ec40 8907 mov [edi],eax
FAULT ->0041ec42 3986fc000000 cmp [esi+0xfc],eax ds:0023:000000fc=????????
0041ec48 898600010000 mov [esi+0x100],eax
0041ec4e 0f8c92000000 jl PATCH_319+0x1ece6 (0041ece6)
0041ec54 bb002f0000 mov ebx,0x2f00
0041ec59 83be0001000000 cmp dword ptr [esi+0x100],0x0
0041ec60 8bce mov ecx,esi
0041ec62 0f9fc0 setnle al
0041ec65 50 push eax
0041ec66 e8d3030000 call PATCH_319+0x1f03e (0041f03e)
0041ec6b 84c0 test al,al
0041ec6d 750d jnz PATCH_319+0x1ec7c (0041ec7c)
0041ec6f 8b06 mov eax,[esi]
0041ec71 8bce mov ecx,esi
0041ec73 ff5024 call dword ptr [eax+0x24]
0041ec76 3bc3 cmp eax,ebx
0041ec78 756c jnz PATCH_319+0x1ece6 (0041ece6)
0041ec7a eb52 jmp PATCH_319+0x1ecce (0041ecce)
0041ec7c 8d4510 lea eax,[ebp+0x10]
0041ec7f 83651000 and dword ptr [ebp+0x10],0x0
0041ec83 50 push eax
0041ec84 8bce mov ecx,esi
0041ec86 ff750c push dword ptr [ebp+0xc]
0041ec89 ff7508 push dword ptr [ebp+0x8]
0041ec8c e865000000 call PATCH_319+0x1ecf6 (0041ecf6)
0041ec91 84c0 test al,al
0041ec93 755a jnz PATCH_319+0x1ecef (0041ecef)
0041ec95 8b4510 mov eax,[ebp+0x10]
0041ec98 8bce mov ecx,esi
0041ec9a 0107 add [edi],eax
0041ec9c 8b06 mov eax,[esi]
0041ec9e ff5024 call dword ptr [eax+0x24]
0041eca1 3bc3 cmp eax,ebx
0041eca3 7541 jnz PATCH_319+0x1ece6 (0041ece6)
0041eca5 8b8600010000 mov eax,[esi+0x100]
0041ecab 3b86fc000000 cmp eax,[esi+0xfc]
0041ecb1 7d33 jge PATCH_319+0x1ece6 (0041ece6)
0041ecb3 8b07 mov eax,[edi]
0041ecb5 8bce mov ecx,esi
0041ecb7 29450c sub [ebp+0xc],eax
0041ecba 014508 add [ebp+0x8],eax
0041ecbd e87cfcffff call PATCH_319+0x1e93e (0041e93e)
0041ecc2 8b86d4000000 mov eax,[esi+0xd4]
0041ecc8 8986d0000000 mov [esi+0xd0],eax
0041ecce ff8600010000 inc dword ptr [esi+0x100]
0041ecd4 8b8600010000 mov eax,[esi+0x100]
0041ecda 3b86fc000000 cmp eax,[esi+0xfc]
0041ece0 0f8e73ffffff jle PATCH_319+0x1ec59 (0041ec59)
0041ece6 32c0 xor al,al
0041ece8 5f pop edi
0041ece9 5e pop esi
0041ecea 5b pop ebx

*----> Stack Back Trace <----*
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
0012e558 00408245 003a89a0 00001400 0012e578 PATCH_319+0x1ec42
0012e56c 004080cd 003a89a0 00000000 0044d590 PATCH_319+0x8245
0012e5b4 0040650b 0012e61c 00000001 0012e694 PATCH_319+0x80cd
0012e678 0040c50b 00000000 0012e6c0 003a4088 PATCH_319+0x650b
0012ff34 0043b3e9 00400000 00000000 0015236d PATCH_319+0xc50b
0012ffc0 7c817077 00300036 00390037 7ffd6000 PATCH_319+0x3b3e9
0012fff0 00000000 0043b309 00000000 78746341 kernel32!RegisterWaitForInputIdle+0x49

*----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
000000000012e54c 90 d5 44 00 00 14 00 00 - a0 89 3a 00 6c e5 12 00 ..D.......:.l...
000000000012e55c 45 82 40 00 a0 89 3a 00 - 00 14 00 00 78 e5 12 00 E.@...:.....x...
000000000012e56c b4 e5 12 00 cd 80 40 00 - a0 89 3a 00 00 00 00 00 ......@...:.....
000000000012e57c 90 d5 44 00 c0 f6 12 00 - 00 00 00 00 c0 75 44 00 ..D..........uD.
000000000012e58c fc 00 00 00 50 75 44 00 - 58 86 3a 00 a1 00 00 00 ....PuD.X.:.....
000000000012e59c 5c 75 44 00 9c ad 16 00 - 54 75 44 00 00 00 00 00 \uD.....TuD.....
000000000012e5ac 00 00 00 00 cc e5 12 00 - 78 e6 12 00 0b 65 40 00 ........x....e@.
000000000012e5bc 1c e6 12 00 01 00 00 00 - 94 e6 12 00 00 00 00 00 ................
000000000012e5cc c0 75 44 00 ff ff ff ff - 50 75 44 00 28 89 3a 00 .uD.....PuD.(.:.
000000000012e5dc 01 00 00 00 5c 75 44 00 - d4 ac 16 00 54 75 44 00 ....\uD.....TuD.
000000000012e5ec 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 50 75 44 00 40 89 3a 00 ........PuD.@.:.
000000000012e5fc 01 00 00 00 5c 75 44 00 - 0c 20 16 00 54 75 44 00 ....\uD.. ..TuD.
000000000012e60c 00 00 00 00 e0 01 91 7c - 00 00 00 00 c8 2e 15 00 .......|........
000000000012e61c 50 75 44 00 70 89 3a 00 - 01 00 00 00 5c 75 44 00 PuD.p.:.....\uD.
000000000012e62c c4 30 15 00 54 75 44 00 - 00 00 00 00 50 75 44 00 .0..TuD.....PuD.
000000000012e63c e0 87 3a 00 01 00 00 00 - 5c 75 44 00 14 d7 15 00 ..:.....\uD.....
000000000012e64c 54 75 44 00 00 00 00 00 - a4 e5 12 00 af d0 40 00 TuD...........@.
000000000012e65c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 04 01 00 00 01 00 00 00 ................
000000000012e66c 04 fe 12 00 10 88 3a 00 - 00 00 00 00 34 ff 12 00 ......:.....4...
000000000012e67c 0b c5 40 00 00 00 00 00 - c0 e6 12 00 88 40 3a 00 ..@..........@:.
****************************************************************
Sorry for the sad news :confused:

JMV · Sep 27, 2010

Another strange thing ( at least to me )

The PATCH_319.exe that is in "C:\...\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Patch, is 2.12 MB
When I copy it into "F:\...\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword" in order to install it, I read it is 165 MB. (???)
I just made a copy paste, How can the size have changed ? :confused:

Possibly a stupid question :
The BUG Mod is working without a dll. Is it possible to adapt the BAT Mod ( which if I well understand, includes the BULL functionalities ) in such a way that it could work without a dll ? ( like the BUG, IYSWIM )

Lemon Merchant · Sep 27, 2010

So please tell me if I understand correctly...
I want to have BULL start up with every game. So what I have to do is install BAT
in "C:\...\My Games\Beyond the Sword\MODS" and on the other hand
go to "F:\...\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets" rename the original ccgamecoredll.dll into ccgamecoredll-Original.dll ( For example ) and then pick the ccgamecoredll.dll which is in BAT Mod 2.3\Assets and copy paste it in
"F:\...\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Assets"
DO I GET THIS RIGHT ?

Nope. Not right.

The DLL in the stand alone BULL package and the DLL in BAT are completely different. You can't copy the DLL from BAT and put it into Assets. It won't work because it looks for things in BAT that it can't find and then crashes.

BAT and BULL have nothing to do with each other, except that a modified version of BULL is included in BAT. When you run BAT, it ignores everything else, including your normal BUG install and whatever DLL you have going.

To make BULL start with every game, download the BUG installer and the BULL zip file. Install BUG (as you've done) and then unzip BULL. Follow the instructions in the BULL read me files to put everything where it is supposed to go. Do NOT do anything with the optional items. Just copy the normal files as instructed. The DLL goes into your "F:\Program files\...\Assets" folder as discussed.

Then install BAT. Do NOT copy anything from BAT and put it elsewhere, or you'll mess things up. Think of it existing in quarantine. It must remain separate and distinct. Again, the BUG Mod and BULL that is located in CustomAssets is totally separate, and is ignored when you run BAT.

JMV · Sep 27, 2010

Thanks Lemon Merchant for the patience and trying hard with me...

For the moment, my brain is getting fried, and I can see some sort of smoke emanating from it... :lol:

So, I'm gonna get my lunch, have a 2 hours siesta, and get back to it later, and will make a nice explanation text of what I did etc... what I don't get etc...

Thanks again, and bear with me... I want the D*** thing to work, unless there is something wrong in my install Registery or else... ( and for that matter, see next post )

JMV · Sep 27, 2010

Anyway Lemon Merchant, I guess there is nothing I can do before I can get some clue as to why I can't patch my game to 3.19, so, sorry what I said previous has to be postponed until my BTS can be patched to 3.19. Then I can think about installing BAT
or whatever need the 3.19 patch.
First things first as they say...

ruff_hi · Sep 27, 2010

@JMV - you might want to use 'spoiler' tags to help your reader focus on important stuff and not get distracted by all of the stack dumps.

Example said:
but use '[' for '<' and ']' for '>' ...
[tab]<spoiler>
[tab]put stuff in here
[tab]</spoiler>

Spoiler :

JMV · Sep 27, 2010

yes,friend, you damned right, sorry, I have so many things to learn. Will try to improve...
Is there a thread where all the forum functionalites are explained... like posting screenshots, editing your signature.. etc...
I know, I know, I'm a crass noob.... sorry

Still, I'm very much in the vague as to what you say means :
"but use '[' for '<' and ']' for '>' ..
I never used [ or > or ] or > so what must replace what for something that doesn't exist in my original text ?
So sorry again, I know, bla bla but I need some answers for what my ( already ) many posts were aiming at... ( but thanks anyway, but if we mix up everything, this tread will be a mess. But again thanks, I know I'm effectively a master in inefficiency... )

ruff_hi · Sep 27, 2010

click on the quote button on my post and it will copy the code I used to create the spoiler - that should give you a running start.

JMV · Sep 27, 2010

Thanks for that.

EmperorFool · Sep 27, 2010

There should be a link that explains BBCode when posting, but you can create a spoiler by using the button above the editing area. You have to be in the Advanced view by either clicking Quote or Reply. That button doesn't appear in Quick Reply mode.

BULL and BAT both require BTS 3.19. If you want to use them you need to get your game patched. There is a 3.19 patch thread in the Civilization IV General Discussion area that has links where you can download the patch manually. It sounds like your patch EXE got corrupted. In-game updating has been broken for a lot of players.

If that doesn't work, I recommend reinstalling BTS from scratch. I know that's painful, but I'm out of other ideas.

JMV · Sep 27, 2010

Thank you for the reply EmperorFool.
Yes, unfortunately I suppose that's all I have left to do. I also suppose that's a registery problem of some sort... As to how to do that, is another story.
I will come back to you about my BAT install problems after I have that solved.. :crazyeye:

Lemon Merchant · Sep 27, 2010

Just a word of advice. Registry cleaners are bad news. Windows will take care of itself for the most part. I hope you can get everything in and patched ok.

Come back soon to BUG us.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.

)

bestbrian · Sep 27, 2010

Lemon Merchant said:
Just a word of advice. Registry cleaners are bad news. Windows will take care of itself for the most part. I hope you can get everything in and patched ok.

Come back soon to BUG us.

(Sorry, couldn't resist. )

Neither could I.

Mathalamus · Sep 28, 2010

Lemon Merchant said:
Just a word of advice. Registry cleaners are bad news. Windows will take care of itself for the most part.

why is it bad news?

JMV · Sep 28, 2010

Yes, LemonMerchant, for sure I must start to BUG everybody quite heavily :lol:

I am quite concious of that. I can even se particules of grey matter floating in the air, released by the intense strain your brains have been subjected to by the BUG ( I mean me ) :blush:

BUT let it be known, you did not give them away in vain because you shall be remembered ( by me ) forever ( and "thinking loud" let's hope they will not drop me in the middle of the road ) so I wish to thank you all again, LemonMerchant, EmperorFool, Fuyu, for your patience and dedication. :goodjob:

By the way, I took a peep into Regedit, and this is what I see :
Under : HKEY_CURRENT_USER
.................Software
..........................Firaxis Games
..................................Sid Meier's Civ 4
..........................................1.61
..................................Sid Meier's Civ4 Complete
..........................................1.74
..................................Sid Meier's Civ 4 Colonization
...........................................1.00
...........................................1.01

I remember the other day I deleted the first one ( 1.61 ) via the Windows program remover. That wasn't probably enough, as it is here still.
Could that be the cause of my non beeing able to patch the game to 3.19 ?
There is no reference to BTS and version number, is it normal ?
Should I just delete the 1.61 then, and could there be other "residues" elsewhere ? ( Sorry again, but I'm not the expert, to say the least. You are, and may all the Glory fall on you all, dear helpers !!

)
Accessorily, do you think I should delete the Colonization 1.00 ?
I know, I know guys, you all think we're going astray from a typical BUG problem here,
But no, not really, because when we have that patch 3.19 thingy solved, I'll be back and try to install the BAT ( I'm saying that to cheer you up a little bit, Probably an unconscious fear that you get tired with my case... Please don't

- alltough it might not be obvious, I'm trying hard to help you, you know...)

BTW I don't see anything Civ related under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE- SOFTWARE.
Heer, sorry there is actually a civ 4 folder under CO7ft5y
I can also see the same layout as above in HKEY_USERS--> S-1-5-21-220523388-->Software-->
Firaxis Games

Again thanks all.

Lemon Merchant · Sep 28, 2010

Mathalamus said:
why is it bad news?

More often than not, it will screw your system up quite badly.

@ JMV:

Do a registry search for "Beyond the Sword" using the find command. It should show up under HKLM\Software... If it isn't there, the game won't patch properly to 3.19, and that is also the reason that BAT won't install. BAT looks for that key.

Civ4 Complete does some funny things with it's installation, and I'm not sure why. I don't have it, so I can't be really certain.

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