I thought it might be related to that... This leads to several other questions... 1) Is Firaxis ever going to formalize & release Bhruic's patch? 2) I sometimes play the GOTM. This requires the HOF mod - which I thought was supposed to include most (if not all) of Bhruic's patch. 2a) Is the GOTM compatable with Bhruic's patch? 2b) Maybe I should play with the HOF mod turned on all the time?? Thanks!! One other question/thought... Many times, the civs are on another continent. When they are on YOURS, it's a bit trickier. A hates B and asks you to terminate relations. You do. B is strong and now is mad at you, so they attack. Now, you are in trouble. Or you don't and now A is mad at you, so they attack. If they are on another continent, they are MUCH less likely to sail across the sea to attack you, just because you stopped trading with them. There are similar considerations for War Declarations. I don't see a lot of problems declaring war on someone far away (because another civ asked). Just be sure you are on the right side (the one more likely to win) - because you will suffer a permanant relations hit - either way.