Quick Answers / 'Newbie' Questions

[Bjoernar]

The problem is that I am not searching the seed number for the latest generated map. That would be easy.
I have started new games in the meanwhile and am searching the seed number for another save.

 

[Samson]

The problem is that I am not searching the seed number for the latest generated map. That would be easy.
I have started new games in the meanwhile and am searching the seed number for another save.

I have wondered how to do this many times, just never got round to asking

 

[Bjoernar]

I have wondered how to do this many times, just never got round to asking

Well, I uploaded my save. Maybe some geniuses will help us now

 

[Spoonwood]

Doesn't civassist II have the seed number for any save it loads? That's what I recall. I have less of an idea, I think, that it will work with your operating system though.

 

[Bjoernar]

Doesn't civassist II have the seed number for any save it loads? That's what I recall. I have less of an idea, I think, that it will work with your operating system though.

Yes, I heard that. But I failed to use Civassist II.

 

[Samson]

Yes, I heard that. But I failed to use Civassist II.

As did I. I got this on install:

Spoiler Critical bit 'System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the registry key 'HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.sav' is denied'? :

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the registry key 'HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.sav' is denied.
at Microsoft.Win32.RegistryKey.Win32Error(Int32 errorCode, String str)
at Microsoft.Win32.RegistryKey.CreateSubKeyInternal(String subkey, RegistryKeyPermissionCheck permissionCheck, Object registrySecurityObj, RegistryOptions registryOptions)
at Microsoft.Win32.RegistryKey.CreateSubKey(String subkey)
at OYPMY@i PVJZP7q\*`("7BOpG".?????????????????????????????????????????()
at OYPMY@i PVJZP7q\*`("7BOpG".?????????????????????????????????????????(EventArgs )
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.8.4110.0 built by: NET48REL1LAST_B
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework64/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll
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CivAssist
Assembly Version: 2.0.6147.37169
Win32 Version: 2.0.6147.37169
CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/useradmin/AppData/Local/Temp/Temp1_CivAssist.zip/CivAssist.exe
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FzHBqxboPyRQdSIOONdGChqXNggiA
Assembly Version: 0.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.6147.37169
CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/useradmin/AppData/Local/Temp/Temp1_CivAssist.zip/CivAssist.exe
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System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.8.4110.0 built by: NET48REL1LAST_B
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.8.4110.0 built by: NET48REL1LAST_B
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.8.3761.0 built by: NET48REL1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.8.3761.0 built by: NET48REL1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
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System.Core
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.8.4110.0 built by: NET48REL1LAST_B
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.8.3761.0 built by: NET48REL1
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

 

[LordofDread]

I tried with CA II but there is nowhere a seed mentioned. Maybe try with MapStat instead? I only use CA II, so I dont know..

Spoiler ca ii :

 

[Samson]

Maybe try with MapStat instead?

Is that a "lost in the move one"? All the links seem dead in the first post.

 

[LordofDread]

Is that a "lost in the move one"? All the links seem dead in the first post.

Was refering to MapStat included in the crp-suite: https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/crpsuite-2-11-0.16266/

But I didn't get the seed with MapStat either. Im sure it's possible somehow, since @Lanzelot did it just around a month ago here: https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...-mostly-infertile-lands.682253/#post-16443908

 

[Spoonwood]

Of course, @Lanzelot is whom you meant to refer to LordofDread.

 

[LordofDread]

Of course, @Lanzelot is whom you meant to refer to LordofDread.

yep, seem to be somewhat blind today. Thanks! Corrected in post.

Also tried civ3sat.exe but this one doesn't seem to work using console with commands, neither with administrator rights.

 

[Takhisis]

Maybe civ3sat.exe needs to be set to use compatibility mode? I cannot test those out anymore because my computer with the old native Windows XP installation finally died a little over a month ago. It's like when the Fire Nation attacked.

 

[Takhisis]

You mean the "Play Last World" option (not the quick start option). Here indeed you can see the seed of the last world of an epic game you have started - but in my experiences only as long as you haven´t started a different epic game or a scenario.

Are you sure that starting a scenario also changes it? The above circumstance means that I cannot test this myself, not for some time.

 

[Spoonwood]

yep, seem to be somewhat blind today. Thanks! Corrected in post.

Also tried civ3sat.exe but this one doesn't seem to work using console with commands, neither with administrator rights.

You're welcome.

 

[LordofDread]

Yes, I heard that. But I failed to use Civassist II.

Finally got it, here is your seed

Seed: 1834388131. Note I renamed your savegame to gurke, because after the 15th attempt even copy paste was too much work xD. I used the updated version of civ3sat.exe from here: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/civ3-show-and-tell.493582/page-10#post-15323986. Works with command console. Older version in the download section doesn't work.

Good thing is you now even have the world specifications to check manually. Only starting positions seems chosen differently? Maybe depends on amount of AI's...

 

[Civinator]

I renamed your savegame to gurke.

Are you sure that starting a scenario also changes it?

Edit: I made a quick test and the seed of the last epic game was still there after I had started a scenario and made a save file of it.

Here is the link to Puppeteer´s tool that was mentioned by Quintillus:

GitHub - JimOfLeisure/c3sat: Civ3 Show-And-Tell

Civ3 Show-And-Tell. Contribute to JimOfLeisure/c3sat development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[Bjoernar]

Finally got it, here is your seed

View attachment 662461
Seed: 1834388131. Note I renamed your savegame to gurke, because after the 15th attempt even copy paste was too much work xD. I used the updated version of civ3sat.exe from here: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/civ3-show-and-tell.493582/page-10#post-15323986. Works with command console. Older version in the download section doesn't work.

Good thing is you now even have the world specifications to check manually. Only starting positions seems chosen differently? Maybe depends on amount of AI's...

If this works, you are my new best friend I really look forward to try. Thank you very much for the work.

 

[Takhisis]

I renamed your savegame to gurke

Spreewald?

I made a quick test and the seed of the last epic game was still there after I had started a scenario and made a save file of it.

I thought so. I'm not sure about scenarios that don't come with a ready-made map and thus force the game to generate terrain, though.

 

[tjs282]

Any time the game has to generate terrain for a new game using a rules-only .biq, (I'm 99.99% sure) it'll overwrite the previous map-seed.

 

[LordofDread]

If this works, you are my new best friend I really look forward to try. Thank you very much for the work.

You're welcome Could come in handy for myself too someday. I already checked for your starting location. It is there, though I had to move there first from another one.