Quick question about Islam

[Elrohir]

No, I actually meant how do you lose your virginity then gain it back.

It doesn't make sense...intercourse would be defined as losing your virginity, correct? Well, if a man has intercourse with 72 different women, they all lose their virginity.

In humans. But these are houri, djinn. Think of them as spirits, only they have physical bodies to, uh, pleasure you with, as well.

Hey, it's not my religion. Ask a Muslim if you want to know the specifics, or the why's behind it all.

 

[GoldEagle]

In humans. But these are houri, djinn. Think of them as spirits, only they have physical bodies to, uh, pleasure you with, as well.

Hey, it's not my religion. Ask a Muslim if you want to know the specifics, or the why's behind it all.

Alright, now I get it. So, you're having sex with a ghost...hmm, that should be fun. Scary Movie 2 all over again.

 

[Rambuchan]

(EDIT: Keep in mind, this is a serious question,and I would like serious answers. I'm not trolling; I don't know much about Islam)

You're kidding right? Of all the questions you could ask about Islam, you asked about virgins and when you get replacements after the first lot are deflowered? What do you take us for?

Excuse me for being a little presumptuous, but something tells me you don't really have that much of a sincere and deep interest in the finer points of the religion (I'm not saying you're trolling btw). It would be a little like opening up a thread and asking:

"So, after Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, did her ass still look good in a fig leaf?"




BTW - Did it?

 

[Elrohir]

Alright, now I get it. So, you're having sex with a ghost...hmm, that should be fun. Scary Movie 2 all over again.

A really sexy ghost.

 

[A'AbarachAmadan]

If you read the Koran itself, nowhere does it promise one 72 virgins. There is never the number 72 mentioned, while virgins is open to debate. There are varying interpretation of the words 'hur' and 'WakawaAAiba' that both appear in the Koran. The work 'hur' means 'maiden with dark eyes' in Arabic, but in syriac, the word hur is a feminine plural adjective meaning white, with the word "raisin" understood implicitly. A tame interpretation for 'WakawaAAiba' is 'like aged companions', though obviously there are more racy interpretations. There are completely unrelated, but interpretational arguments about the Bible when one reviews the original text instead of reading it in English.

On the other hand, there was a hadith that stated it as such. While the article states they may be 'traced to Muhammad', they really were just future scholars writing their beliefs. Just as most Christians don't believe in the infalibility of the Pope, most Muslims don't believe all the hadiths.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/011214.html

Nothing in the Koran specifically states that the faithful are allotted 72 virgins apiece. For this elaboration we turn to the hadith, traditional sayings traced with varying degrees of credibility to Muhammad. Hadith number 2,562 in the collection known as the Sunan al-Tirmidhi says, "The least [reward] for the people of Heaven is 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome of pearls, aquamarine and ruby."

In the end, the Muslim religion doesn't treat sex the same way the Christian religion does. However, having lived in the Middle East, served with Muslims in the US military, and worked with other Muslims in Western society, I haven't met one yet that believes in the 72 virgins. Most have said the 'companions' are 'angels' and you certainly wouldn't be having sex with them. Muhammed limited the number of wives to four (though he had more for a variety of reasons; many believe he had one true love) and directed they must all be treated equally, which was extremely advanced for his tribal culture. It is this limit to four on Earth that makes every Muslim I've ever known scoff at the stupidity of the 72 virgins, though they do admit there are many, especially the poor and disenfranchised, that absolutely believe it.

 

[Sidhe]

You're kidding right? Of all the questions you could ask about Islam, you asked about virgins and when you get replacements after the first lot are deflowered? What do you take us for?

Excuse me for being a little presumptuous, but something tells me you don't really have that much of a sincere and deep interest in the finer points of the religion (I'm not saying you're trolling btw). It would be a little like opening up a thread and asking:

"So, after Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, did her ass still look good in a fig leaf?"




BTW - Did it?

If it didn't and Adam went off her it would of posed all sorts of problems for the survival of humanity, I'm going to go with a yes on this one, her arse drove Adam wild with lust on those cold lonely nights.

 

[tossi]

Koran sura 56 verses 12 -40 ; sura 55 verses 54-56 ; sura 76 verses 12-22. I shall quote the celebrated Penguin translation by NJ Dawood of sura 56 verses 12- 39: "They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away their reason); with fruits of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their deeds... We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand..."

"celebrated Penguin translation" ???

 

[Tenochtitlan]

Actually, in Islamic heaven, you can get anything you want. You just have to think it. Your imagination is your only limit.

 

[CruddyLeper]

It doesn't make sense...

It does as a selling point to the gullible.

 

[Elrohir]

"celebrated Penguin translation" ???

Translated by penguins?

 

[CruddyLeper]

Book publishing company. Quite a large one.

 

[The Last Conformist]

You're kidding right? Of all the questions you could ask about Islam, you asked about virgins and when you get replacements after the first lot are deflowered? What do you take us for?

Excuse me for being a little presumptuous, but something tells me you don't really have that much of a sincere and deep interest in the finer points of the religion (I'm not saying you're trolling btw). It would be a little like opening up a thread and asking:

"So, after Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, did her ass still look good in a fig leaf?"

Who says her ass looked good before*? Genesis doesn't say anything about the looks of Adam or Eve. It hardly mentions the appearance of anyone.

* Well, Jack Chick did, but he alo claimed she was 14' tall, and that's among his more believable claims.

 

[Rambuchan]

If it didn't and Adam went off her it would of posed all sorts of problems for the survival of humanity, I'm going to go with a yes on this one, her arse drove Adam wild with lust on those cold lonely nights.

How do we know Adam wasn't gay and that Eve didn't have a lover in the Garden of Eden (who later got characterised as the snake)?

Who says her ass looked good before*? Genesis doesn't say anything about the looks of Adam or Eve. It hardly mentions the appearance of anyone.

Maybe Eve was an absolute river troll to look at, but Adam was blind (and desperate)?

These are the kind of questions that really strike at the heart of the wisdom locked into these fine religions. It's only through asking questions such as these do we truly find the greater messages. Right GE?

 

[The Last Conformist]

Maybe Eve was an absolute river troll to look at, but Adam was blind (and desperate)?

How could anyone say no to some hot river troll action?

 

[Rambuchan]

"Oh TLC, you've such a silken way with words".

 

[GoldEagle]

These are the kind of questions that really strike at the heart of the wisdom locked into these fine religions. It's only through asking questions such as these do we truly find the greater messages. Right GE?

Quite correct


Alright, this thread has no point . Mods may close, thanks for the answer, Amadan.