ThERat
Deity
got it, will play tonight, have to work today on a saturday 
RAT-02- Deity
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Deity
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Pre-Turn
we are at war with zulu and they have a settler pair outside our city, lose a warrior but get that pair
I ask Babs to remove their unit but the comply...Bodo is a huge flip risk, so I remove our units
IT Zulu land an archer outside of Odense that is only defended by a warrior
1. try and send some troops down south
IT warrior bravely defends and promotes
2 nth much
IT China now allies with Zulu against us
5. Babs join in the war against us,
we are at the receiving end of a dogpile. on a positive note, we defend with warrior against sword
defeat a few Babs units
6 Zulu wants to talk and lucky they got no mono nor engineering
trade feudalism for eng + mono and peace, they were about to sack Bingol
8. we can now get invention for all our economy from Rome
10 as mentioned before we could get invention, I recommend to do that, but I wanted for the next player to deal so can do sth with it
get zerks out and pound the world
do be careful about chinese and Babs galleys and sorts
Pre-Turn
we are at war with zulu and they have a settler pair outside our city, lose a warrior but get that pair
I ask Babs to remove their unit but the comply...Bodo is a huge flip risk, so I remove our units
IT Zulu land an archer outside of Odense that is only defended by a warrior
1. try and send some troops down south
IT warrior bravely defends and promotes
2 nth much
IT China now allies with Zulu against us
5. Babs join in the war against us,
we are at the receiving end of a dogpile. on a positive note, we defend with warrior against sworddefeat a few Babs units
6 Zulu wants to talk and lucky they got no mono nor engineering
trade feudalism for eng + mono and peace, they were about to sack Bingol
8. we can now get invention for all our economy from Rome
10 as mentioned before we could get invention, I recommend to do that, but I wanted for the next player to deal so can do sth with it
get zerks out and pound the world
do be careful about chinese and Babs galleys and sorts
ThERat
Deity
The Roster
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dl123654
AK
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dl123654
AK
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
I may have an idea... (see some of Scoutsout's posts for why this is not good)
Let's build the navy (5-10 boats or more), fill 'em with zerks and go pillage the world, not even attmepting to keep juicy cities. If we clear some turf, get some alliances the AI will go crazy sending settler pairs to fill in. If they fill where we don't want them, zerk 'em again (size one cities should be easy until the muskets show up) In the meantime, we build our empire, planting settlers where we want them not worrying about flips. visions of similtaneous landings on Osman's shoes. For discussion only at this time. Be advised of my title.
Let's build the navy (5-10 boats or more), fill 'em with zerks and go pillage the world, not even attmepting to keep juicy cities. If we clear some turf, get some alliances the AI will go crazy sending settler pairs to fill in. If they fill where we don't want them, zerk 'em again (size one cities should be easy until the muskets show up) In the meantime, we build our empire, planting settlers where we want them not worrying about flips. visions of similtaneous landings on Osman's shoes. For discussion only at this time. Be advised of my title.
preflight (350ad)
Buy invention from Rome for 477g & 35gpt
We're left with 13g and 9gpt
ibt: Bab troops moving towards Birka - lightly defended
turn 1 (360ad)
start troops towards Birka
ibt: Babs landed troops by lightly defended Birka
turn 2 (370ad)
Remove Babylonian incursion
ibt: Babs land 3 more troop by Birka
turn 3 (380ad)
Couldn't kill all the Babs
ibt:
more Babs land and WW sets in - scroll ahead
turn 4 (390ad)
killed off the bab troops - ya gotta love our cats and trebs
I can't quite afford peace this turn with Babs. China's insulted and I can't come close to peace
ibt:
America and China signed MA against us
turn 5 (400ad)
Peace with China for 54g and 7gpt (much cheaper)
Babs give us 80g for peace - quite a change in just one turn. (couldn't afford any techs as part of the peace deal)
Unfortunatly, we lose WW and have a lot of unhappy people. Lux at 10% and can't afford 20%
Even trade with China furs for incense
Now I can leave lux at 10%
Now we're just at war with America
ibt: Babylon and China signed MA against Rome
turn 6 (410ad)
zzz
ibt: Rome and Zulu signed peace treaty
turn 7 (420ad)
zzz
ibt: China demands 24g, give in
turn 8 (430ad)
zzz
ibt: Chinese building Newton's
turn 9 (440ad)
zzz
ibt: Persia and Babylon are bulding Newton's
turn 10 (450ad)
zzz
Notes:
America is still refusing our envoy.
We have one bezerk sitting in a galley in our capital.
@AK's idea - if we go to war at all, we'll have to raze and replace - take a look at how uncultured we are compared to the rest of the world
[edit] Shevek's up
Buy invention from Rome for 477g & 35gpt
We're left with 13g and 9gpt
ibt: Bab troops moving towards Birka - lightly defended
turn 1 (360ad)
start troops towards Birka
ibt: Babs landed troops by lightly defended Birka
turn 2 (370ad)
Remove Babylonian incursion
ibt: Babs land 3 more troop by Birka
turn 3 (380ad)
Couldn't kill all the Babs
ibt:
more Babs land and WW sets in - scroll ahead
turn 4 (390ad)
killed off the bab troops - ya gotta love our cats and trebs
I can't quite afford peace this turn with Babs. China's insulted and I can't come close to peace
ibt:
America and China signed MA against us
turn 5 (400ad)
Peace with China for 54g and 7gpt (much cheaper)
Babs give us 80g for peace - quite a change in just one turn. (couldn't afford any techs as part of the peace deal)
Unfortunatly, we lose WW and have a lot of unhappy people. Lux at 10% and can't afford 20%
Even trade with China furs for incense
Now I can leave lux at 10%
Now we're just at war with America
ibt: Babylon and China signed MA against Rome
turn 6 (410ad)
zzz
ibt: Rome and Zulu signed peace treaty
turn 7 (420ad)
zzz
ibt: China demands 24g, give in
turn 8 (430ad)
zzz
ibt: Chinese building Newton's
turn 9 (440ad)
zzz
ibt: Persia and Babylon are bulding Newton's
turn 10 (450ad)
zzz
Notes:
America is still refusing our envoy.
We have one bezerk sitting in a galley in our capital.
@AK's idea - if we go to war at all, we'll have to raze and replace - take a look at how uncultured we are compared to the rest of the world
[edit] Shevek's up
Sorry guys, I need to ask for a skip.
Work, work, work -
We have our year-end stock take and I am working this week-end and will be out and about most of next week as our warehouse is 3 hrs away from where I live.
I will check back as soon as possible.
Work, work, work -
We have our year-end stock take and I am working this week-end and will be out and about most of next week as our warehouse is 3 hrs away from where I live.
I will check back as soon as possible.
Save
Preturn 450AD:
Change some of the costial Treb builds to boats
Turn 2 470AD:
Odense Barrack->Court
Find out it will cost 150 per archer to upgrade, 1050 gold to upgrade our 7 archers
IBT:
China Rome peace
Turn 3 480AD:
Bergen Berserk->Berserk
Reykjavik Galley->Galley
Stockholm Berserk->Berserk
Make Peace with America, they give 4gpt for 12 gold
Turn 4 490AD:
Trondheim Berserk->Berserk
Oslo Market->Berserk
Turn 6 510AD:
Our persistance pays off, we learn Theology (only took 50 turns), set it to gunpowder
Stravanger Barrack->Berserk
Molde Lib->Barrack
Rome doesn't have Education, can't even come close to the cost of buying it, change research to education and will get it in 14 turns at a large debt or 32 turns at a small gain, go with 14 turns
Turn 7 520AD:
Aarhus Temple->Berserk
Chinese finish Newton
Turn 8 530AD:
Trondheim Berserk->Berserk
Hareid Pike->Galley
Copenhagen Berserk->Berserk
Turn 10 550AD:
Bodo Lib->Market
Molde Barrack->Berserk
Notes:
Important:
Did a test on turn 10, turned off our research, offered Persia 64gpt to see how much money they would give for it, 186gold, thats it, something has happened to make our reputation bad.
Education in 15turns with a small gain, can increase after we get a little more money
Preturn 450AD:
Change some of the costial Treb builds to boats
Turn 2 470AD:
Odense Barrack->Court
Find out it will cost 150 per archer to upgrade, 1050 gold to upgrade our 7 archers
IBT:
China Rome peace
Turn 3 480AD:
Bergen Berserk->Berserk
Reykjavik Galley->Galley
Stockholm Berserk->Berserk
Make Peace with America, they give 4gpt for 12 gold
Turn 4 490AD:
Trondheim Berserk->Berserk
Oslo Market->Berserk
Turn 6 510AD:
Our persistance pays off, we learn Theology (only took 50 turns), set it to gunpowder
Stravanger Barrack->Berserk
Molde Lib->Barrack
Rome doesn't have Education, can't even come close to the cost of buying it, change research to education and will get it in 14 turns at a large debt or 32 turns at a small gain, go with 14 turns
Turn 7 520AD:
Aarhus Temple->Berserk
Chinese finish Newton
Turn 8 530AD:
Trondheim Berserk->Berserk
Hareid Pike->Galley
Copenhagen Berserk->Berserk
Turn 10 550AD:
Bodo Lib->Market
Molde Barrack->Berserk
Notes:
Important:
Did a test on turn 10, turned off our research, offered Persia 64gpt to see how much money they would give for it, 186gold, thats it, something has happened to make our reputation bad.
Education in 15turns with a small gain, can increase after we get a little more money
ThERat
Deity
AK is up, Rat on deck
shall we start to pound the world with our zerks before they become obsolete? I suggest Ottoman or Romans to be the first to smell our viking blades
shall we start to pound the world with our zerks before they become obsolete? I suggest Ottoman or Romans to be the first to smell our viking blades
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
got it 123456
ThERat
Deity
AK
any progress?
any progress?
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
oh sh*t, I'm an idiot. I thought I posted this. Will get this up asap, sorry.
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
gonna be tomorrow until I get this up. If you need to swap me go ahead.
ThERat
Deity
I can do 10 turns today (too free ) then you do your 10 turns tomorrow? is that fine?
) then you do your 10 turns tomorrow? is that fine?
ThERat
Deity
sorry for that 
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
Well I played the same set of turns, more peacefully. I have 9 zerks and a settler in position to attack Mpondo. Was planning on hitting the zulu first to get muskets. Babs and Persia are in the IA!
I'll let y'all decide which path to follow. Sorry for the delay.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Rat2_650_AD.SAV
I'll let y'all decide which path to follow. Sorry for the delay.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Rat2_650_AD.SAV
ThERat
Deity
oi 
I didn't know you actually played your turns. then I take yours as the standard and delete my post. sorry for that
anyway the Roster is then
The Roster
ThERat -up
rrau - on deck
shevek - give us a sign once you are back
dl123654
AK - just played
I didn't know you actually played your turns. then I take yours as the standard and delete my post. sorry for thatanyway the Roster is then
The Roster
ThERat -up
rrau - on deck
shevek - give us a sign once you are back
dl123654
AK - just played
ThERat
Deity
the save
Pre-Turn
first we trade Theo versus chivalry and 10g, better get that first
then declare and attack Mpondo, get GA, lose a zerk, but burn town
education now in 5
1.
Found Karasjok in the north, Tromso in the south
2.
go for Ulundi, lose 2 zerks and raze town
It lose the zerk at zulu land, they land 3 units next to tromso
3. we defeat those 3 units, well still with this rate I don't know how long we can sustain a war
IT Zulu would talk, but not give up a tech, we get edu next turn, so wait
4. take Umtata in the South
we could now trade edu for gunpowder
IT lose a pike at Umtata
5 defeat 5 units at Tromso and Umtata, I would like to get Tugela and then sign peace
IT China declares Zulu
6 Found Vadso south of Trondheim
7 attack Tugela and off 2 units next to Tromso
IT now Ottoman join in and declare on Zulu
8 Zulu knows education, there it goes
Take Tugela and sign peace, get gunpowder for 50g
I try to reorganise and send 2 stack to each side of the Ottoman empire
10 we get astronomy in 8 turns
Rome and Zulu do not have this tech, if we are lucky we can pull off a 2fer or so
next player can make judgement whether to attack Ottoman, or maybe even Rome?
there are Ottoman units running around in our territory after they declared war on Zulu
Pre-Turn
first we trade Theo versus chivalry and 10g, better get that first
then declare and attack Mpondo, get GA, lose a zerk, but burn town
education now in 5
1.
Found Karasjok in the north, Tromso in the south
2.
go for Ulundi, lose 2 zerks and raze town
It lose the zerk at zulu land, they land 3 units next to tromso
3. we defeat those 3 units, well still with this rate I don't know how long we can sustain a war
IT Zulu would talk, but not give up a tech, we get edu next turn, so wait
4. take Umtata in the South
we could now trade edu for gunpowder
IT lose a pike at Umtata
5 defeat 5 units at Tromso and Umtata, I would like to get Tugela and then sign peace
IT China declares Zulu
6 Found Vadso south of Trondheim
7 attack Tugela and off 2 units next to Tromso
IT now Ottoman join in and declare on Zulu
8 Zulu knows education, there it goes
Take Tugela and sign peace, get gunpowder for 50g
I try to reorganise and send 2 stack to each side of the Ottoman empire
10 we get astronomy in 8 turns
Rome and Zulu do not have this tech, if we are lucky we can pull off a 2fer or so
next player can make judgement whether to attack Ottoman, or maybe even Rome?
there are Ottoman units running around in our territory after they declared war on Zulu
Can someone please attach the save - I'm not seeing the hyperlink. I think it has something to do with my antiviral program, but can't figure out how to reverse it once it's set in for the saves for a game - all of them after that one never show up. So if everyone can attach the saves for the rest of this game I'd appreciate it. thanx.
ThERat
Deity
ok, sorry for that trying to save space
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