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Well I'll be following this, looks interesting.
Rat37 - Very Random AWE
- Thread starter Greebley
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Turn was mostly quiet. I built a settler and Archers. I also killed 4 Carthage archers without loss.
Taking the attack to Carthage seemed most important. I have a stack of 5 Archers under an Impi heading to Utica. Hopefully that will be enough for the expected 2 Num Mercs. There is an archer next to the Impi, but I advise not attacking. That will slow down going for Utica or have less than 5 archers. I feel 5 is needed because the Num Mercs have a decent chance to promote. It is tempting to attack archers along the way, but we can kill them equally well when they reach our borders.
The settler I was thinking should go next to the 2 Oasis which are like bonus Grassland squares. Two with mines will be 5 shields at size 2 (minus corruption). I will mark what I think is the best square. I think I would go for the Red circle because it is better for establishing a way to Utica when we take it and because the town will have less corruption than the Purple spot.
We are roading to Utica. Worker under Archer
An Impi started toward Carthage to possible pillage more.
Mathematics is not that expensive. Can tell it is a smaller map.
Taking the attack to Carthage seemed most important. I have a stack of 5 Archers under an Impi heading to Utica. Hopefully that will be enough for the expected 2 Num Mercs. There is an archer next to the Impi, but I advise not attacking. That will slow down going for Utica or have less than 5 archers. I feel 5 is needed because the Num Mercs have a decent chance to promote. It is tempting to attack archers along the way, but we can kill them equally well when they reach our borders.
The settler I was thinking should go next to the 2 Oasis which are like bonus Grassland squares. Two with mines will be 5 shields at size 2 (minus corruption). I will mark what I think is the best square. I think I would go for the Red circle because it is better for establishing a way to Utica when we take it and because the town will have less corruption than the Purple spot.
We are roading to Utica. Worker under Archer
An Impi started toward Carthage to possible pillage more.
Mathematics is not that expensive. Can tell it is a smaller map.
AndrewN
Prince
Me again 
. Got it.
I agree with the city placement, it might even be productive in later ages
I think part of the reason Carthage is so small is they have been whipping archers to deal with our pillagers.
. Got it.I agree with the city placement, it might even be productive in later ages
I think part of the reason Carthage is so small is they have been whipping archers to deal with our pillagers.
AndrewN
Prince
Inherited turn:
Turn lux down to 0%, we don't need it just at the moment. Spot sleeping worker in Ulundi, move him towards Bapedi.
Not much else so hit enter...
Archer moves onto hill
1) 975BC
Our vet archer kills archer.
Move SoD towards Utica
Move Impi towards Carthage and spot a NM on a hill, I hope it isn't reinforcing Utica as it will get there quicker than our forces.
IBT:
Said NM moves towards us, not to Utica.
2) 950BC
Nothing.
IBT:
Archer leaves Carthage and attacks out Impi and loses.
Zimbabwe archer -> settler
3) 925BC
Battle of Utica
vet archer kills NM
vet archer kills NM and
Looks like we had too many units
. I think we will keep it and we get a resistor. Move SoD into Utica.
Found Hlobane, start barracks.
We are back under our support limit so science can go up. Maths now due in 4
IBT:
Ulundi archer -> Impi
Carthage is back down to size 1 so I assume they whipped something again
4) 900BC
Zip
IBT:
Bapedi Impi -> worker
5) 875BC
Nada
IBT:
Our golden age ends
6) 850BC
Nothing
IBT:
Zimbabwe settler -> archer
7) 825BC
The rogue NM finally steps onto flat land and we take it out with archers, although it does take one with it.
IBT:
Boring...
8) 800BC
Inspired by the flawless victory at Utica (and suitably reinforced) I start the advance on Carthage. I'm not sure how many defenders to expect there (I don't normally count when attacking) so if the next player thinks it is too small then they can retreat the forces.
Utica is unhappy at size 1, combination of whip and aggression.
IBT:
Maths in. Thinks... we are going to want Monarchy at some point so I start on CB, due in 5 turns at 0gpt
Ulundi Impi -> catapult
Bapedi worker -> catapult
Hlobane walls -> barracks
9) 775BC
Borrrrrrrring
IBT:
10) 750BC
Found Isandhlawna. Start barracks
Exploring near Carthage I see a grassland cow. Unfortunately it appears to be on a 1 tile island and is probably useless 
Notes:
There are 7 archers and an Impi heading towards Carthage, no idea if it is enough. If you don't feel lucky then retreat them. I also have some catapults building, it maybe they will not be needed, feel free to swap them.
Obligatory picture
Turn lux down to 0%, we don't need it just at the moment. Spot sleeping worker in Ulundi, move him towards Bapedi.
Not much else so hit enter...
Archer moves onto hill
1) 975BC
Our vet archer kills archer.
Move SoD towards Utica
Move Impi towards Carthage and spot a NM on a hill, I hope it isn't reinforcing Utica as it will get there quicker than our forces.
IBT:
Said NM moves towards us, not to Utica.
2) 950BC
Nothing.
IBT:
Archer leaves Carthage and attacks out Impi and loses.
Zimbabwe archer -> settler
3) 925BC
Battle of Utica
vet archer kills NM
vet archer kills NM and
Looks like we had too many units
. I think we will keep it and we get a resistor. Move SoD into Utica.Found Hlobane, start barracks.
We are back under our support limit so science can go up. Maths now due in 4
IBT:
Ulundi archer -> Impi
Carthage is back down to size 1 so I assume they whipped something again
4) 900BC
Zip
IBT:
Bapedi Impi -> worker
5) 875BC
Nada
IBT:
Our golden age ends
6) 850BC
Nothing
IBT:
Zimbabwe settler -> archer
7) 825BC
The rogue NM finally steps onto flat land and we take it out with archers, although it does take one with it.
IBT:
Boring...
8) 800BC
Inspired by the flawless victory at Utica (and suitably reinforced) I start the advance on Carthage. I'm not sure how many defenders to expect there (I don't normally count when attacking) so if the next player thinks it is too small then they can retreat the forces.
Utica is unhappy at size 1, combination of whip and aggression.
IBT:
Maths in. Thinks... we are going to want Monarchy at some point so I start on CB, due in 5 turns at 0gpt
Ulundi Impi -> catapult
Bapedi worker -> catapult
Hlobane walls -> barracks
9) 775BC
Borrrrrrrring
IBT:
10) 750BC
Found Isandhlawna. Start barracks
Exploring near Carthage I see a grassland cow
. Unfortunately it appears to be on a 1 tile island and is probably useless Notes:
There are 7 archers and an Impi heading towards Carthage, no idea if it is enough. If you don't feel lucky then retreat them. I also have some catapults building, it maybe they will not be needed, feel free to swap them.
Obligatory picture
ThERat
Deity
wow, what a fast turnaround and what a great result 
We have done very well I feel. I guess we could swap the catapults as we should be able to take Carthage with arches only. We can then proceed to take our own Island.
As for the next phase, we should try and locate horses and hopefully get to cavalry fast (with all this lousy land we should have saltpeter).
We should also try and irrigate from Carthage and need more workers for all this.
The Roster
ThERat
Greebley
AndrewN
TheOverseer - up
M60A3TTS
We have done very well I feel. I guess we could swap the catapults as we should be able to take Carthage with arches only. We can then proceed to take our own Island.
As for the next phase, we should try and locate horses and hopefully get to cavalry fast (with all this lousy land we should have saltpeter).
We should also try and irrigate from Carthage and need more workers for all this.
The Roster
ThERat
Greebley
AndrewN
TheOverseer - up
M60A3TTS
TheOverseer714
Overseer
Got it, will play tomorrow. Hopefully I can eliminate Carthage. Should we scout the continent seaching for enemies, or work on infrastructure? Things look kinda weak on the homefront, but then again, why let our enemies develop in peace?
After Carthage falls, I would explore the rest of our island and see if there is Iron and build a Curragh to see if anyone (or iron) is on that land near us to the East. I think contact will be ok because they have to ship them across.
Note that Iron to the east would be accessable with harbors.
Agree on checking on Horses - probably after we get cb.
Note that Iron to the east would be accessable with harbors.
Agree on checking on Horses - probably after we get cb.
TheOverseer714
Overseer
Good news, better news, and bad news: Good is there are Horses on our island. Better, Carthage folded like a cheap suit, I only lost 2 Archers. Bad, we have no Iron and nobody to play with, which makes for a boring playground. Here is the turn-log:
Here is a pic, I dot-mapped the 4 best sites on a sorry looking map.
The save:
Spoiler :
Here is a pic, I dot-mapped the 4 best sites on a sorry looking map.
Spoiler :
The save:
ThERat
Deity
great job to take out the first enemy. Let's continue to search for iron and other foes. We surely want to go for MM soon.
The Roster
ThERat
Greebley
AndrewN
TheOverseer
M60A3TTS - up
The Roster
ThERat
Greebley
AndrewN
TheOverseer
M60A3TTS - up
AndrewN
Prince
Nice going . I had put cities in the same places as you apart from the most northern one.
I would have thought that Monarchy would be our top priority so we can get the most out of our lands. We don't need too many units at the moment as we have no enemies so we can fill out our lands and build workers. Similarly iron is not a top priority currently, we might never build iron based units if we can't get to the AI easily.
. I had put cities in the same places as you apart from the most northern one.I would have thought that Monarchy would be our top priority so we can get the most out of our lands. We don't need too many units at the moment as we have no enemies so we can fill out our lands and build workers. Similarly iron is not a top priority currently, we might never build iron based units if we can't get to the AI easily.
TheOverseer714
Overseer
I was torn between Writing and Polytheism, but we can go either way with so few beakers invested, Writing leads to MM, and we get nowhere without that, Polytheism leads to Monarchy, pretty much a toss-up, both do very little individually but lead to techs we need.
If we get a leader, I suggest an Impi Army. It can defend a stack of Cats and Archers to take out cities. Even later on, with its faster speed, it is a good pillager, and pillaging is extremely powerful on a small map.
An Archer or Horseman army will not survive without an Impi army to back back it up on another continent and will just die.
An Archer or Horseman army will not survive without an Impi army to back back it up on another continent and will just die.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Got it. Will play later today.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Preturn: switch a couple builds and take science down a tad.
510BC- Start some irrigation
490BC- Curragh finds ruins of a town.
470BC- Intombe founded. Get FP message, Sparta completes SoZ. Korea gets Pyramids.
430BC- Mpondo founded. Hittites finish Oracle, Greek settler pair finally appears by exploring curragh.
410BC- Greece up writing, myst, HBR, construction. Tell Alex to have a nice day, and oh by the way- prepare for war.
370BC- Curragh encounters Greek galley.
350BC- More worker action and done.
Post turn: I took off the single scientist, the city wasn’t growing where he was employed. Writing due in 7, but it is necessary to move the slide down every 3rd turn or so to stay financially solvent. Irrigation is down to Ulundi now. A single settler is available outside Carthage.
The Greeks aren't that close to us at all, but the obligatory pillager will land one of these days.
There is an iron source on an adjacent island, so we should definitely go for MM next. We are currently 7 units under the support limit.
510BC- Start some irrigation
490BC- Curragh finds ruins of a town.
470BC- Intombe founded. Get FP message, Sparta completes SoZ. Korea gets Pyramids.
430BC- Mpondo founded. Hittites finish Oracle, Greek settler pair finally appears by exploring curragh.
410BC- Greece up writing, myst, HBR, construction. Tell Alex to have a nice day, and oh by the way- prepare for war.
370BC- Curragh encounters Greek galley.
350BC- More worker action and done.
Post turn: I took off the single scientist, the city wasn’t growing where he was employed. Writing due in 7, but it is necessary to move the slide down every 3rd turn or so to stay financially solvent. Irrigation is down to Ulundi now. A single settler is available outside Carthage.
The Greeks aren't that close to us at all, but the obligatory pillager will land one of these days.
There is an iron source on an adjacent island, so we should definitely go for MM next. We are currently 7 units under the support limit.
ThERat
Deity
ok, just got home
play tomorrow
MM sounds like the proper next tech to go for
play tomorrow
MM sounds like the proper next tech to go for
ThERat
Deity
Pre-Turn
our cities have to grow a little I think
1. 330BC
sednign out a new curragh
2. 310BC
with more settlers and units, the deficit is getting bigger
3. 290BC
all of a sudden a Korean city is placed on our island in the north
found our own city nearby, then declare war on Korea that has a mere 5 cities
move units north
4. 270BC
attack warrior with an Impi but retreat. Step up with another archer and impi
IT we get writing, go for MM next
5. 250BC
our archer takes out Nampo
one of our curraghs spots a new enemy to the west, pretty near our land
IT a settler comes into view
6. 230BC
say hello to Hittites and declare
they have 10 cities and are up 4 techs including MM and have 144gold
the good part is that research drops to 11 turns for MM
IT Korea and Greece show up with a galley each
7. 210BC
found Swazi in the north
IT Korea finishes the G Lighthouse
8. 190BC
we need to be careful about the galleys and follow them
9. 170BC
spot the Korean borders in the north
10. 150BC
still following the boats
MM is 8 turns away and we run at 0gold and 0gpt, please monitor this
Pre-Turn
our cities have to grow a little I think
1. 330BC
sednign out a new curragh
2. 310BC
with more settlers and units, the deficit is getting bigger
3. 290BC
all of a sudden a Korean city is placed on nour island in the north
found our own city nearby, then declare war on Korea that has a mere 5 cities
move units north
4. 270BC
attack warrior with an Impi but retreat. Step up with another archer and impi
IT we get writing, go for MM next
5. 250BC
our archer takes out Nampo
one of our curraghs spots a new enemy to the west, pretty near our land
IT a settler comes into view
6. 230BC
say hello to Hittites and declare
they have 10 cities and are up 4 techs including MM and have 144gold
the good part is that research drops to 11 turns for MM
IT Korea and Greece show up with a galley each
7. 210BC
found Swazi in the north
IT Korea finishes the GLightouse
8. 190BC
we need to be careful about the galleys and follow them
9. 170BC
spot the Korean borders in the north
10. 150BC
still following the boats
MM is 8 turns away and we run at 0gold and 0gpt, please monitor this
our cities have to grow a little I think
1. 330BC
sednign out a new curragh
2. 310BC
with more settlers and units, the deficit is getting bigger
3. 290BC
all of a sudden a Korean city is placed on our island in the north
found our own city nearby, then declare war on Korea that has a mere 5 cities
move units north
4. 270BC
attack warrior with an Impi but retreat. Step up with another archer and impi
IT we get writing, go for MM next
5. 250BC
our archer takes out Nampo
one of our curraghs spots a new enemy to the west, pretty near our land
IT a settler comes into view
6. 230BC
say hello to Hittites and declare
they have 10 cities and are up 4 techs including MM and have 144gold
the good part is that research drops to 11 turns for MM
IT Korea and Greece show up with a galley each
7. 210BC
found Swazi in the north
IT Korea finishes the G Lighthouse
8. 190BC
we need to be careful about the galleys and follow them
9. 170BC
spot the Korean borders in the north
10. 150BC
still following the boats
MM is 8 turns away and we run at 0gold and 0gpt, please monitor this
Pre-Turn
our cities have to grow a little I think
1. 330BC
sednign out a new curragh
2. 310BC
with more settlers and units, the deficit is getting bigger
3. 290BC
all of a sudden a Korean city is placed on nour island in the north
found our own city nearby, then declare war on Korea that has a mere 5 cities
move units north
4. 270BC
attack warrior with an Impi but retreat. Step up with another archer and impi
IT we get writing, go for MM next
5. 250BC
our archer takes out Nampo
one of our curraghs spots a new enemy to the west, pretty near our land
IT a settler comes into view
6. 230BC
say hello to Hittites and declare
they have 10 cities and are up 4 techs including MM and have 144gold
the good part is that research drops to 11 turns for MM
IT Korea and Greece show up with a galley each
7. 210BC
found Swazi in the north
IT Korea finishes the GLightouse
8. 190BC
we need to be careful about the galleys and follow them
9. 170BC
spot the Korean borders in the north
10. 150BC
still following the boats
MM is 8 turns away and we run at 0gold and 0gpt, please monitor this
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
From what's visible so far, our poor terrain doesn't look so much worse than anyone elses.
I would suggest with MM coming in 8, we get two towns down very soon. One above Isandhlwana, and another 3 tiles east of there on iron island. Next up could switch the cat build in Isandhlwana to a galley so we can expedite getting settled over there. With the iron island accessible through a 1-turn galley shuttle, shipping troops from the homeland would be a piece of cake.
I would suggest with MM coming in 8, we get two towns down very soon. One above Isandhlwana, and another 3 tiles east of there on iron island. Next up could switch the cat build in Isandhlwana to a galley so we can expedite getting settled over there. With the iron island accessible through a 1-turn galley shuttle, shipping troops from the homeland would be a piece of cake.
ThERat
Deity
sounds like a good plan to me.
Greebley can you take this as you are up in the other 2 games as well?
Greebley can you take this as you are up in the other 2 games as well?
NP is up in Rat36. However, I am also having internet problems at home. I won't post an 'I got it' until this gets resolved (hopefully by friday). The next player(s) can go ahead and take it if I haven't posted yet. If I can I will post a progress or 'lack of progress' report when I know more.
Note that if I fail to get it fixed, I won't be able to post at home during the weekend.
So in other words, Andrew (and Overseer) should just grab the game whenever he can play - unless he sees further an "I got it" post from me.
Note that if I fail to get it fixed, I won't be able to post at home during the weekend.
So in other words, Andrew (and Overseer) should just grab the game whenever he can play - unless he sees further an "I got it" post from me.
AndrewN
Prince
I can take it tomorrow. If Greebley hasn't got his problems sorted out by the morning (UK time) then I'll play a set.
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