RBC3c - Ancient Mediterranean Mayhem - Roma

I haven't seen 6thGenTexan, but we should keep moving. Belisar could you take it now? I'll put Speaker as on deck, but if Texan checks in, he can have a spot somewhere later in the roster. It's so short, I want everyone to have a chace to play at least twice.

Griselda -
6thGenTexan - skipped, maybe swap
Belisar - UP NOW
Speaker - on deck
T_McC -
 
I'm currently doing my last 2 turns in LOTR11, had very limited time this week, so I would give 6thGen one more day.
If noboy claims it until tomorrow, I will take it.
 
Originally posted by Belisar
I'm currently doing my last 2 turns in LOTR11, had very limited time this week, so I would give 6thGen one more day.
If noboy claims it until tomorrow, I will take it.

Sounds good. Thanks for checking in. :)

-Griselda
 
OK, I take it.
 
Preturn:
MM Confinium is a good call, change production in Antium to walls to be one the save side
in the east. Swaping a lot of tiles and I finally get both Ancona and Tarentium to exact 20 spt
which means Heavy Cavs in 3 turns.
On the bad-news side: Persia has hospitals, there cities are getting large.
Military situation seems to be good, the only thing that annoyes me is the huge Celtic
archer stack near Vesontio.
A legion III upgrade is not a bad idea but as far as the production of new units is
concerned I would have prefered the 70-shield version,
without rails and factories, 90 shields is quite a lot.
Scythia still won't talk but I will try to end this war as soon as possible.
Finally we are researching at 50%. Even if we wanted Philosophy, we won't invest 9*220 ~ 2000 gold.
Some civs already have it, so I shut down research to min and we are now making 300 gpt with 100% tax.
Now we will start going cash-heavy to rush selectively important things.
I spend something like 500 cash for upgrading units in Spain and in northern boarder-cities and
on the rax in Cirta.

IT: A Carth galley fails at the attack on one of ours in near Sicilia.
Hanni moves a lot of Elephants near Carthago and in Spain.
Egypt and Persia ally against the Goths.
Persia captures Dyrrhachium from Alex, they are getting big, Hmm.
The Goths move some Teutons on our road network near Silk city east.

45BC: Kill 2 Elephants and 1 spear in Spain with legions III, 2 new elite units.
We have 2 armies in Cirta, I upgrade the additional vet-legions and use the armies to kill
the exposed 2 Elephants and 1 Heavy Cavs. I want to begin offensive actions next turn there.

IT: Hanni attacks Carthago like made with 5 Jumbos/Heavy Cavs.
We lose one pike, one Elephant retreats and 3 get killed. Another Elephant impales
itself on a legion in spain and 2 move next to Nora and a third joins the 2 wounded ones near Carthago.
Macedons and Goths sign peace, Persia takes the last Macedon city in the north, no only
the southern ones are remaining.

40BC: Kill of all 5 visible Jumbos in the Carthago-Nora region with Heavy cavs.
2 settlers ready this turn so I settle Hispalis on the road to Silk City.
Attack Hadrumetum with one of the armies, it is defended by 2 spears and we capture it without
problems.
I move 3 offensive stacks towards Carthago Nova in Spain, Hippo and Thenae in Africa.

IT: Hanni still must have tons og cash to rush units.
2 Elephants impale themselves on the stack near Thenae, one stops near Hippo, 5 land near Cirta and 4
advance in Spain.

35BC: Landing near Cirta was probably the most idiotic thing Hanni could have done as we have half
of the African units (including 2 armies) near the town. Kill all 5 Jumbos before they get a chance
for offensive actions.
I advance at Hippo and Thenae for the attack next turn. I Spain our forces are a bit outnumbered but our
army attacks Carthago Nova to fivide their forces whereas the legion III hide 2 tiles away from the Elephants
to lure them on open terrain.
Our southern army advances on Gabes.
Settle Viroconium, now Silk City is connected to the Empire.
Both new new towns are on the existing road network and on fresh water.
I spend something like 120 cash on rushing walls in 5 boarder cities, with beeing militaristic
this is always a priority a great way to reduce casulaties with penuts.

IT: 2 Elephants attack our offebsive stack at Thenae. One retreats, the other kills a garrison.
In Spain, 4 Elephants attack Lilibaeum. Our legion III kill 2 of them, the ohter 2 retreat
A single Elephant moves near Cirta.
The Celts move a lot of units south., so do the Goths, they are at peace with Alex so they must
be going for the new Persian cities.

30BC: Our army in Spain takes Carthago Nova, the remaining Elephant retreats when attacked by one of our legions.
The situation in Africa is getting better now, we finally start major offensive actions.
I kill the Elephant near Cirta, then our western stack captures Hippo from the spears
without casulaties. I'm really glad we began the invasion of Hanni in Leptis, denying him Ivory for NuMes,
killing spears takes far less casulaties.
The main stack east with 6 Heavy Cavs takes Thenae form 4 defenders and the southern army takes Gabes,
now all easters-Afrian cities are secured.

To be continued at night...
Belisar
 
I had research set to 50%? :crazyeye: Ack, I didn't think I was researching anything at all. I must have set it accidentally when I was playing with the sliders. Thanks for catching that, and sorry for wasting our gold.

I *was* wondering why we weren't doing better than that running all cash in republic.:lol:

-Griselda
 
Iron or no iron, there is not much from Hanni left for Speaker. :D

IT: 2 Heavy Cavs approach Carthago Nova in Spain, a Jumbo stops near Cirta.
Our casualties this round is an empty galley, sunk by a Carth elite! galley near Caralis
The Perisans complete Bacchanalia.

25BC: Half of the game is already over, turn 65 of just 130.
Mostly a consolidation turn. I send the army that captured Gabes west to get the desert-city Theveste.
On the western African front we need a turn to heal the offensive army and get the troops in position,
some are healing in Cirta.
I think we have enough units to finish of Carthago in place, so I begin sending the newly produced units north
for our upcoming war against the Celts, they have tons of archers and gallics moving around.
We have now walls in all northern boarder cities.
There are a lot of Egyptian units near our Dyes city.
Diplo-check, they ship us a lux and I don't want to risk loosing it, so I ship them
ne of our 3 excess spices for an MA against Hanni, just an insurence policy.
Units and army in Spain are healing too, so it is a non-exiting turn.
We sink the injured Carth galley and get an elite one.

IT: Somehow, somewhere and sometimes someone will program a better AI, the Celtic moves
(20+ units on our territorry back and forth (I guess one turns towards Hanni and the other turns towards
some enemy in the esat) are more than just idiotic.
Hanni's 2 Heavy Cavs impale themselves on our army near carthago Nova.

20BC: Our southern army destroys Theveste, getting a worker.
I advance towards Malacca in Spain and Icosium in Africa.
Scythia finally talks and we sign a peace treaty. Now we are only at war with Carthago,
we are most peaceful civ in the known world :D

IT: Bad news, Celts and Hanni sign a peace treaty and the Celts begin moving tons of units
back into our territory.
Hanni sends 3 Elephants this turn in southern Africa, they stop near our armies.
In Spain he sends 2 Heavy Cavs and he also sends a 4 galley stack towards Carthago, will have
to watch this one.

15BC: We take Icosium (defended by 2 spears, 1 Jumbo) and destroyed at least one galley too.
Kill the 3 visible Elephants with Hevay Cav.
I capture Malacca in Spain with our army.
I continue sending all newly build units north and advance on Mersa Madakh near their new capital.

IT: Things in Spain get interesting, I now count 5 Heavy cav near Malacca,
only 2 Jumbos Africa. The galley stack is heading for our islands.

10BC: Kill the 2 Elephants in Africa and our main offensive stack approaches Mersa Madakh for the attack next turn.
Found Lugdunum in northern Spain and move settler in position for founding the next city in the east near the Silk Town.
I begin reinforcing our island cities Caralis and Olbia to avoid a 'Griselda-surprise' with garrisons
from the northern island and Heavy Cav from Africa. We have now 11 galleys so we are more flexible this time.
In Spain I have to remain defensively and avoid exposed units, all those Heavy Cavs are annoying, heal the army in
Carthago Nova, the city has raxes.

IT: I have no luck in sea battles, Hanni sinks another of our galleys with one that came out
from the fog. 3 Elephants attack one of our legions on a hill. The first retreats, the second dies but
the third is succcesful. The stupid Celts are blocking my Heavy Cav reinforcements for Spain on the roadnetwork.

5BC: We cature a nd raze Mersa Madakh, it's way too big and too close to the capital, we get a fire cat
and a worker.
I settle Brundisium in the esat.
I advance towards Oea in southern Africa.

IT: Hanni sends 4 Jumbos in Africa and trys to bypass our armies.
In Spain I spot his Heavy Cav stack moving north, maybe towards Lilibeo, maybe towards France
(Info for Speaker, something like 5 Heavy Cavs)

1AD: Kill 3 Jumbos in Northern Africa.
Our southern army takes Oea, I recommend razing the city to free our army, up to Speaker.
I advance towards Carmona in Spain.
I left most of the offensive units near the Carthagian capital unmoved (+some galleys) to allow
some troop repositioning for Speaker.
I have a stack in Olbia for the expected landing from the 4 galleys, hope it's enough.
There are also 2 galleys in case they land on the northern island and I also blocked the high ground there.

We are up to 41 legions, 23 Heavy Cavs, 67 garrisons so I think we are doing not bad.
I already collected two stacks at Ariminium and Segusio for the Celt-war, also up to the next leader
when to begin. Notice the huge archer stack near Ravenna (there is also a settler in Ravenna)

Good luck
Belisar

The situation in Africa:
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I’m sorry for the disappearance but I’m back now. My holiday stay at the in-laws was to end on the 29th. It was unfortunately extended a week. Last Friday night, we learned the hard way that my wife had an ectopic pregnancy and she underwent emergency surgery. We are home now and she will be fine and will take it easy for the next 6 weeks. I did not have internet access to give y’all a heads up. I’ll need a day or tow to get settled back in at home,work,CIV3 so if you can squeeze me back in after Speaker, that will be fine.
 
Welcome back 6thGen :)
 
6thGenTexan,

It sounds like quite a scary time for your family! I hope your wife is beginning to feel better. In the mean time, I bet that 7thGenTexan is keeping you busy!

-Griselda
 
For those that don't know, an ectopic pregnancy is also called a tubal pregnancy. More often than not the mother's life is in extreme danger and the baby will be lost. So unfortunately there won't be a 7thGen this year. Prayers go out to you Tex during this difficult time. God Bless you and Mrs. Tex.

Bugs
 
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I believe there already is a 7thGenTexan who is probably keeping daddy very busy these days! :)

-Griselda
 
Thanks for all the paryers, cares and support. We do have one 7thGenTexan (pictures are available :D ) We were working on a second but that has been put off for a while. Mrs. 6thGen is doing fine. With an aunt in town to help out , all my wife has to do is rest, relax and find things to keep me off the computer. :rolleyes: If Speaker doesn't jump in, I can play tomorrow.

6gntxn

edit - sp
 
It took a while to get through 10 truns last night. It had been a while.
Initial Obsrevations: We have 9% of the total area and Spain/North Africa/France is more than enough to get to 20%.
We have 22% of the population, Persia has 36% and we have 14 cities that have maxed growth. I'll be getting some aqueducts and infirmaries built. Switch 11 towns to aqueduct.
If we are not revolting to Imperialism, I stop all research.
I buy Education from Egypt for 520g and WM. Safe steal was 2000+. I sell Persia Spices and WM for Medicine and 427g. I did not want to give them spices but they are about to kill off Macedon.
Pisae, Roma, Neapolis and Tarentum start Infirmaries.
Pull some legions on garrison duty to build some roads on worked tiles for more income.
I attack a war elephant not realizing it was on a mountain and lose a Legion2.
Buy aqueducts: Carthago--356g, Leptis Magna--376g, Marsala--384g, Messana--360g, and Syracuse--352g.

IBT Celts move back north. Two elephants land near Icosium.

5AD-1 Carthago aqueduct-->marketplace Marsala aqueduct-->marketplace Ancona HC-->HC Syracuse aqueduct-->granary Caralis riots. Leptis Magna aqueduct-->granary Messana aqueduct-->marketplace Confinium garrison-->garrison Lugdunum walls-->temple Genua and Massilia swapped to temple. I'm expecting these markets to help with happiness when built. Olbia gets an aqueduct for 320g. Mediolanum for 132g.
Legion1 army defeats elephant on way to Rusicade. Kill elephant near Oea with army.
Caesaraugusta founded SW of Lugdunum and starts a granary.
Macedonia down to one city.

IBT lose two slaves and two HC in Spain.

10AD-2 Padoa citizen-->temple Olbia aqueduct-->granary Aquileia citizen-->temple Ariminum garrison-->temple Mediolanum aqueduct-->temple Rush the aqueduct in Caralis.
Move in on Rusaddir, Rusicade and Carmona but miss click and leave an elephant able to attack us but kill two.

IBT Scyuthia and Carthage join forces verses Egypt. The lone elephant captures our fire catapult.

15AD-3 Caralis aqueduct-->temple Kill off two elephants and recapture our catapult and gain the leader Regulus. He will become a HC army. Capture Rusicade, 2 spears. Kill 3 spears and a HC in Carmona but there is another HC. Six more HC are running lose in Spain.
Rush Aqueduct in Aleria for 232g.

IBT Egypt and the Celts stop fighting. Incense deal ends with Egypt.

20AD-4 Ancona HC-->HC Aleria aqueduct-->granary Confinium garrison-->garrison Pompeii reg garrison-->harbor Kill another HC and spear in Carmona. Kill 2 elephants outside Rusaddir and a elephant and spear inside. Miss click and leaf a garrison in the open near 3 HC. Have to pay Egypt 33GPT and Wines for Incense. Rush Temple in Silk City for 184g and in Ariminum for 224g.

IBT Macedonians are no more. Carthage and Egypt sign a peace treaty. Caesaraugusta falls losing to 2 HC. Unfortunately there was a citizen in there also. :(

25AD-5 Roma, Pisae infirmary-->legion3 Canusium aqueduct-->HC Ariminum temple-->garrison Silk City temple-->garrison
Kill another spear and two HC and take Carmona for 14g and a fire catapult.
Remove 2 elephants and a spear from Rusiddar.
All HC on Celt border head to Spain.
Rush temple in Aquileia for 192g.
Rush harbor in Ferry Dock for 56g.

IBT

30AD-6 Neapolis infirmary-->Legion3 Tarentum infirmary-->legion3 Aquileia temple-->courthouse
Ferry Dock harbor-->granary Ravenna barrack-->garrison Hispalis walls-->barrack
Finally get Rusaddir and 2 slaves and a catapult, but we have 10 resistors and no infrastructure in city. I start a temple. The capital has moved to Utica in Spain.

IBT Trade HC in Spain. Egypt and Celts join up against Persia. Forgot to check happiness last turn. Carthago and Marsala riot.

35AD-7 Ancona HC-->Legion3 Burdigala garrison-->garrison Genua temple-->courthouse Confinium garrison-->garrison
All waiting Legions head to Silk City. I count 51 Persian HC here. The are fighting the Celts and the Goths up here. We will need to attack them, not the Celts, to reach our pop goal.
Kill 2 HC in Spain. Kill 2 of 3 elephants dropped off at Caralis. The third kills a HC.
Rush infirmary in Padau. Rush Temple in Antium for 176g. Rush temple in Massilia for 88g.

IBT Trade 2 HC for and elephant. Darius is demanding our TM and 15g. He gets it. The Goths and Scythia stop fighting.

40AD-8 Roma Legion3-->Legion3 Massilia harbor-->courthouse Padua infirmary-->courthouse Croton aqueduct-->harbor Veii garrison-->temple Antium temple-->barrack
Trade HC in Spain. Kill a spear near Sabratha and one in Sulcis.

IBT Trade a HC for an elephant.

45AD-9 Brundisium walls-->barrack Confinium garrison-->garrison
Capture Tingus, Sabratha and Sulcis and get a great leader. Kill off an elephant and 2 HC in Spain.
Rush market in Messana for 368g. Rush temple in Caralis for 144g.

IBT

50ad-10 Neapolis & Pisae Legion3-->legion3 Caralis temple-->harbor Icosium garrison-->aqueduct Messana market-->infirmary Vesontio barrack-->garrison Segusio garrison-->granary

I have moved the troops east this turn. There should not be any on goto. There are 2 galleys shipping an army from Africa to the east side of the boot. These can do ferry duty from Italy. I have not moved any other boats. Persia had a long string of ships heading to Gibralter , but they reversed course about 3 turns ago. There are plenty of forces to complete the take over of North Africa. Extras need to head back to Carthago for the return home. Production here may need to switch to citizens to settle the rest of that land. The HC's in Spain are looking for a second city there. They will be needed to help capture the current Carthage capital. Our gains this turn equal 1% of the world’s area and 3% of the population. We are still 6% behind Persia in land and 13% of the population with 50 turns to go. We will not win the score tie-breaker at the time limit. Persia is up 3600 and has every wonder.
I had hoped to se better gains with my infrastructure. That may show up in later turns. Courthouses in the Italian Alps will greatly help the production in that area.



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