Ozymandous
Prince
Ah, are we using version 1.21 yet or not? I have already patched but don't want to "corrupt" the game if everyone wants to stick with 1.17.
RBD18 - The Army Game
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Jaffa Tamarin
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Go with 1.21.
Certain persons may still be living in the dark ages, but we must drag this game kicking and screaming into the Glorious Light of the ONE TRUE PATCH !!
Or something
Edit: also, I think Sirian already patched the game anyway
Certain persons may still be living in the dark ages, but we must drag this game kicking and screaming into the Glorious Light of the ONE TRUE PATCH !!
Or something
Edit: also, I think Sirian already patched the game anyway
Ozymandous
Prince
I took only take 9 turns to even things out. I noticed we were in a Republic one turn or so in and decided to go for a Democracy. Well, eight turns of anarchy later we emerge.
The next leader can re-arrange everything how they want, I did get some worker stuff done at least but that's about it.
The next leader can re-arrange everything how they want, I did get some worker stuff done at least but that's about it.
smegged
Psi Cop
Just a reminder that I'm unavailable for this game until completion of rbd23-a.
Democracy??????? 
If we were going to go there, we needed to do so a long time ago. Now we're on the verge of entering an UNENDING string of wars toward our only available victory option of complete world conquest, with tanks and armies rolling off the assembly lines, and now we go to democracy? And we took eight turns off our burgeoning tech lead in computer research, and our push to get the rest of the wonders, and after I worked so hard to build UP our culture so we can reduce our flip risks, we go without any at all for eight turns... 
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Oh well, make the most of it. Stay there, until we reach a point at which weariness collapses us, then go to Monarchy. Our workers will get more done in the mean time.
I figured that in Republic it would take longer for weariness to push us under, so might as well stay there until we couldn't hack it any more. I also figured this was self-evident? Guess not. My bad for not saying anything.
smegged is still unpatched, so... who's up now? Jaffa? Good luck!
- Sirian
If we were going to go there, we needed to do so a long time ago. Now we're on the verge of entering an UNENDING string of wars toward our only available victory option of complete world conquest, with tanks and armies rolling off the assembly lines, and now we go to democracy?
And we took eight turns off our burgeoning tech lead in computer research, and our push to get the rest of the wonders, and after I worked so hard to build UP our culture so we can reduce our flip risks, we go without any at all for eight turns... Oh well, make the most of it. Stay there, until we reach a point at which weariness collapses us, then go to Monarchy. Our workers will get more done in the mean time.
I figured that in Republic it would take longer for weariness to push us under, so might as well stay there until we couldn't hack it any more. I also figured this was self-evident? Guess not. My bad for not saying anything.
smegged is still unpatched, so... who's up now? Jaffa? Good luck!
- Sirian
smegged
Psi Cop
"I figured that in Republic it would take longer for weariness to push us under, so might as well stay there until we couldn't hack it any more. I also figured this was self-evident? Guess not. My bad for not saying anything."
Actually I think I said something in my six turns. Guess I didn't make it clear enough.
Oh well, now that we are there we should make the most of it. And hopefully get ourselves suffrage before war ensues.
Actually I think I said something in my six turns. Guess I didn't make it clear enough.
Oh well, now that we are there we should make the most of it. And hopefully get ourselves suffrage before war ensues.
Suffrage? smegged did you doze off and miss an era or two? We're researching Computers. Suffrage was built centuries ago, by somebody else.
More Police Stations will help a little, and so might rotating through opponents, but at some point we're going to have to go all out and bite the anarchy bullet one more time.
- Sirian
We're researching Computers. Suffrage was built centuries ago, by somebody else.More Police Stations will help a little, and so might rotating through opponents, but at some point we're going to have to go all out and bite the anarchy bullet one more time.
- Sirian
smegged
Psi Cop
I think I was smoking some of the pungent weed with my comment about suffrage
EDIT: I thought about my mistake as I was driving somewhere earlier.
EDIT: I thought about my mistake as I was driving somewhere earlier
.Jaffa Tamarin
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Ozymandous
Prince
Two reasons for Democracy that came to mind...
1) Since our empire is pretty darn sprawling with our FP relatyively close I thought Democracy might give us a little less corruption to deal with and help clear out some of the relatively bad terrain quicker.
2) We did have a tech lead, and I thought that we'd get an even bigger lead under Democracy. Since we weren't currently at war with anyone, I assumed we'd have time to research and build under the best government before we started more wars, since we had 3 whole armies (we'll need a lot more) in the empire at my turns and a lot of smallish cities. (I obviously didn't count on an 8 turn anarchy either.)
That's about it. Since everyone was busy fighting other people and except for 4-5 of our cities, we're relatively undeveloped I thought this would be a good choice. Obviously no one else thought so, so I apparently made a choice, but I thought that's why the SG format, so different styles would be ok. My style is to optimize research and reduce corruption. For what it's worth, yes we lost 8 turns of research and building, but even at less science allotted we still had more research funding just because of the commerce boost. (Computers went from 3 turns before anarchy to 3 turns after with about 20% less spent on science.) Oh well, hope this doesn't mean we automatically lose (my bad choice). 
By the way, an earlier suggestion was to attack France... Why? France is mostly across the ocean from us, with only a few isolated colonies on our land. Why would we want to declare war on France, and then have the AI take over their lands on the other continents before we could move all of our armies and support units over?
If we take a vote on who to attack I would say England, because i) they are next to us and the logistic's trail is easier, ii) I'd rather have our territory near-by to counter X-Man's empire, and iii) England has fur's and isn't that much bigger than us.
But what do I know?
EDIT: Spelling and stuff.
EDIT2: Removed a line or two. Never post when you're having a bad day at work.
1) Since our empire is pretty darn sprawling with our FP relatyively close I thought Democracy might give us a little less corruption to deal with and help clear out some of the relatively bad terrain quicker.
2) We did have a tech lead, and I thought that we'd get an even bigger lead under Democracy. Since we weren't currently at war with anyone, I assumed we'd have time to research and build under the best government before we started more wars, since we had 3 whole armies (we'll need a lot more) in the empire at my turns and a lot of smallish cities. (I obviously didn't count on an 8 turn anarchy either.)
That's about it. Since everyone was busy fighting other people and except for 4-5 of our cities, we're relatively undeveloped I thought this would be a good choice. Obviously no one else thought so, so I apparently made a
choice, but I thought that's why the SG format, so different styles would be ok. My style is to optimize research and reduce corruption. For what it's worth, yes we lost 8 turns of research and building, but even at less science allotted we still had more research funding just because of the commerce boost. (Computers went from 3 turns before anarchy to 3 turns after with about 20% less spent on science.) Oh well, hope this doesn't mean we automatically lose (my bad choice). By the way, an earlier suggestion was to attack France... Why? France is mostly across the ocean from us, with only a few isolated colonies on our land. Why would we want to declare war on France, and then have the AI take over their lands on the other continents before we could move all of our armies and support units over?
If we take a vote on who to attack I would say England, because i) they are next to us and the logistic's trail is easier, ii) I'd rather have our territory near-by to counter X-Man's empire, and iii) England has fur's and isn't that much bigger than us.
But what do I know?
EDIT: Spelling and stuff.
EDIT2: Removed a line or two. Never post when you're having a bad day at work.
Jaffa Tamarin
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The General pondered the sudden and unexpected outbreak of Democracy in the Zulu nation. "Well," he decided, "if the people wish to have a Democracy, I shall give them a vote."
A referendum was called, and the citizens were given the choice:
1. Glorious war!
2. Abject surrender and destruction of our great nation at the hands of the foreign infidels.
--
The General was pleased. It had only been necessary to "misplace" a few of the ballots to achieve the correct result. A unanimous and resounding call for war! He consulted his map, and picked a likely target. England, yes, they would do just nicely...
--
Three turns of consolidation and troop-building. Brought many of our workers back from the colonies to work on improvements around our more important core cities.
In 1665, we discovered the secrets of Computers. And mech infantry. I got bored of all this peaceful stuff and declared war! Yay! Also upgraded 70 infantry units to mechs, and planted spies in England and Persia.
Our cavalry armies have razed Birmingham. Our tank armies have razed Oxford, Hastings and Reading. And Rio Elephantos (that'll teach 'em!).
We lost one near-full-health cavalry army to a 1hp infantry defender.
I tried setting most of our low-production cities to building impi, thinking they could then be upgraded to mechs. Well, that was the plan. Unfortunately it doesn't work. The game won't let us actually build impi, despite them appearing in the build list -- they get auto-swapped to mechs on the turn they're supposed to finish.
Our people want to build the Iron Works! Whooo! In .. umm .. New Isipezi! It'll just take 295 turns to complete
I started an air force, and a fleet. England was sailing an unguarded transport past Intombe just as we finished our first battleship there. Hehe.
We have several elite tanks and mechs, where England has been kind enough to send their forces into our territory to help with our training exercises.
Founded one new city (New Zunguin).
Started seeing war weariness on the 1700 turn. Democracy won't hold out much longer if we stay at war.
We just finished researching Miniaturization. Everybody else has Fission.
1700AD
Jaffa
Smegged [skipped]
Sirian << UP
Ozymandous << on deck
Melle, Charis - will be reinserted in roster when/if they reappear.
A referendum was called, and the citizens were given the choice:
1. Glorious war!
2. Abject surrender and destruction of our great nation at the hands of the foreign infidels.
--
The General was pleased. It had only been necessary to "misplace" a few of the ballots to achieve the correct result. A unanimous and resounding call for war! He consulted his map, and picked a likely target. England, yes, they would do just nicely...
--
Three turns of consolidation and troop-building. Brought many of our workers back from the colonies to work on improvements around our more important core cities.
In 1665, we discovered the secrets of Computers. And mech infantry. I got bored of all this peaceful stuff and declared war! Yay! Also upgraded 70 infantry units to mechs, and planted spies in England and Persia.
Our cavalry armies have razed Birmingham. Our tank armies have razed Oxford, Hastings and Reading. And Rio Elephantos (that'll teach 'em!).
We lost one near-full-health cavalry army to a 1hp infantry defender.
I tried setting most of our low-production cities to building impi, thinking they could then be upgraded to mechs. Well, that was the plan. Unfortunately it doesn't work. The game won't let us actually build impi, despite them appearing in the build list -- they get auto-swapped to mechs on the turn they're supposed to finish.
Our people want to build the Iron Works! Whooo! In .. umm .. New Isipezi! It'll just take 295 turns to complete
I started an air force, and a fleet. England was sailing an unguarded transport past Intombe just as we finished our first battleship there. Hehe.
We have several elite tanks and mechs, where England has been kind enough to send their forces into our territory to help with our training exercises.
Founded one new city (New Zunguin).
Started seeing war weariness on the 1700 turn. Democracy won't hold out much longer if we stay at war.
We just finished researching Miniaturization. Everybody else has Fission.
1700AD
Jaffa
Smegged [skipped]
Sirian << UP
Ozymandous << on deck
Melle, Charis - will be reinserted in roster when/if they reappear.
smegged
Psi Cop
I'm still unpatched. I'd love to play, but without the latest patch I'm not going to get too far! Skip me until further notice.
Ozymandous
Prince
Well I am glad Jaffa follows me to fix (sort-of) the mistakes I made. Sorry about the government shift, I probably cost us 4-5 times the anarchy period becaue of the delay in production (since it amplifies and all).
I am glad that the England suggestion wasn't totally off base. Did we get the furs?
I am glad that the England suggestion wasn't totally off base.
Did we get the furs?1700-1750AD: I spent the whole turn building infrastructure and clearing jungle. We are due for a few world wonders early for next player.
Oh, and also, war weariness rose to oppressive levels on the last turn (I did a bit
of attacking England). I adjusted everything and we're good to go a bit longer at 20% lux and entertainers, but would be a good idea to bring the war with Lizzie to a close soon.
Zulu Armies! 1750AD
- Sirian
Oh, and also, war weariness rose to oppressive levels on the last turn (I did a bit
of attacking England). I adjusted everything and we're good to go a bit longer at 20% lux and entertainers, but would be a good idea to bring the war with Lizzie to a close soon. Zulu Armies! 1750AD
- Sirian
Ozymandous
Prince
Sorry for the late reply, but I have it and should be able to play tommorrow some time.
Ozymandous
Prince
Well the war is over and so is England. 
Built mostly infrastructure my turn as well. I tried to get some of our "extra" troops compiled into one central location.
We built Cure for Cancer and Longevity and entered our Golden Age. With Nuclear plants in a few key cities (traded Genetics for Space Flight and Nuclear Power when we built the wonders), we are pulling over 100 shields a turn in at least 4 cities. Two cities can build a Modern Armor every turn (one of these cities has to build armies however).
We should have roughly 17-18 turns of the GA left from what I can tell.
Oh, we're also researching Laser, done in a turn, and should be able to get 4 turns per for anything else. 2k+ in the bank, making 600+ per turn now.
Have fun!
Built mostly infrastructure my turn as well. I tried to get some of our "extra" troops compiled into one central location.
We built Cure for Cancer and Longevity and entered our Golden Age.
With Nuclear plants in a few key cities (traded Genetics for Space Flight and Nuclear Power when we built the wonders), we are pulling over 100 shields a turn in at least 4 cities. Two cities can build a Modern Armor every turn (one of these cities has to build armies however).We should have roughly 17-18 turns of the GA left from what I can tell.
Oh, we're also researching Laser, done in a turn, and should be able to get 4 turns per for anything else. 2k+ in the bank, making 600+ per turn now.
Have fun!
Jaffa Tamarin
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So, I was just going to consolidate and build stuff. Make the most of our democratic golden age, right?
Well, that was the plan...
X-man wanted lasers. I said no. X-man declared war.
Mechs and modern armor and radar artillery, whoohoo!
1790AD
Have a look at the map
Sirian up next, unless Charis or Smegged are back.
Well, that was the plan...
X-man wanted lasers. I said no. X-man declared war.
Mechs and modern armor and radar artillery, whoohoo!
1790AD
Have a look at the map
Sirian up next, unless Charis or Smegged are back.
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Psi Cop
I'm back, rbd23-a has finally finished
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