Red Dwarf Mafia: The Smeggening [Game Thread - Concluded]

[spaceman98]

Also, why target Murska of all people?

 

[remake20]

I didn't target Murksa, that's the thing.

 

[remake20]

That's why I was trying to see if there might be some sort of passive connection between the two of us.

 

[choxorn]

Who did you target, if you've used your ability, and what exactly does an "abduct" do?

 

[Murska]

Uh...huh?

Well, I wasn't abducted or anything. In fact I've received no indication of any kind that someone'd have used anything on me all game.

 

[Newyn]

Why would he be worried? He can apparently copy abilities, and now he's copied protection. There's basically no reason for him and his doc buddy to not protect each other from NKs for the rest of the game.

What I don't believe is the the fact that he can supposedly copy and use another ability at the same time and that there appears to be no limit to his powers if he is to be believed. Claiming to be bulletproof now is also an incredibly convenient excuse to why he's never targetted for a kill from now on.

There's also been 2 claims of abilities/charges been stolen in thread so his open claims make even less sense.

Basically, I don't believe in the existance of ridiculously OP abilities like the one he supposedly has.

 

[Autolycus]

err sorry that was unclear wording on my part:

thanks to your ability, my scan redirected from Murska to you, that's what I meant by defended.

So let me get this straight, spaceman, you used an ability scan to scan murska, but instead got a result on remake that said his ability was to redirect other stuff that targeted his target onto him?

I didn't target Murksa, that's the thing.

But remake claims not to have targeted Murska. Is that correct?

 

[spaceman98]

So let me get this straight, spaceman, you used an ability scan to scan murska, but instead got a result on remake that said his ability was to redirect other stuff that targeted his target onto him?


But remake claims not to have targeted Murska. Is that correct?

I got a result on remake saying that he was an abductor, whose ability rendered actions against another player useless

I interpreted that to mean that he had abducted Murska and redirected my ability to him (or in this case, her) self.

Now he says that he didn't target Murska. If true, that probably implies a bus driver or something

I'm also not entirely sure from the description I got what "abducting" means exactly. Redirecting to self was the occam's razor solution to my confusing result, but maybe its something else?

 

[choxorn]

It looks more like someone else was messing with your abilities.

Are there any bus driver-type roles out there who targeted spaceman, remake, or Murska last night?

And remake, you're a one-use abductor? Have you used your ability yet? Did you use it last night?

 

[Newyn]

I still don't trust Al Sipsclar but I'll unvote for now.
remake20 what exactly would your abductor ability have done if you had it. The ability doesn't really sound like a town ability to me.

 

[Double A]

What I don't believe is the the fact that he can supposedly copy and use another ability at the same time and that there appears to be no limit to his powers if he is to be believed. Claiming to be bulletproof now is also an incredibly convenient excuse to why he's never targetted for a kill from now on.

There's also been 2 claims of abilities/charges been stolen in thread so his open claims make even less sense.

Basically, I don't believe in the existance of ridiculously OP abilities like the one he supposedly has.

Fair point. I thought he claimed doctor protection ring, though, not BP, unless you're talking about something I missed.

Al, you have so many abilities that it should be no hard matter to prove yourself somehow.

 

[Newyn]

Fair point. I thought he claimed doctor protection ring, though, not BP, unless you're talking about something I missed.

Al, you have so many abilities that it should be no hard matter to prove yourself somehow.

Yeah, it's technically not BF but assuming what Tak said earlier was true combined with Kennigit's claims earlier in the game, I don't know why any sane scum team would have left Al Sipclar's claimed abitlity alone unless he's one of them.

 

[remake20]

I had a one shot abduct (prevents any actions from being preformed on the target. Kinda like a reverse rb) but n2 I got a pm saying it was gone.

I'll be back in a bit to try and dig some on other people and vote.

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[Autolycus]

Given spaceman's scan of him, I don't like the remake wagon. Double A seems to be the main alternative wagon we have, and he feels like a better lynch at this point. I'll try to be back on before the deadline.

 

[remake20]

I'm going to bed here so I won't be able to respond any more, but I have to put my vote on al slipscar. That ability is insanely strong, but also, we have not had another day kill since the Snerk incident so I am even more inclined to think it was mechanic based.

 

[choxorn]

But he's been voted for since and the Inquisitor has yet to show his face again. I don't think that's what caused Al to die.

What's the vote tally right now?

 

[Visorslash]

3 Remake (Pigeon, Al sips, Newyn)
1 landlubber (Internet)
3 AA (Takh, Space, Auto)
1 Space (Jarrema)
1 Auto (land)
1 Al (Remake)

I think.

 

[choxorn]

Ick. I don't really like either one of these lynches; remake is clearly vanilla of some sort and Double A is acting like his usual self. Al's ability-copying claim seems a bit more reasonable, though I wish he'd clarify how exactly it worked.

I can't shake a lingering suspicion of spaceman, but I don't think he's a good lynch right now.

Not sure if this will be helpful or not, but here's all the votes from the previous four days, with the dead townies colored in blue and the dead mafia colored in red:


Day One:

5 Legato (Spaceman, Autolycus, remake20, choxorn, MartinLuther)
4 Landlubber ( Arakhor, Backwards Logic, Xym, Newyn)
3 Snerk (Jarrema, Cuthillius, Murska)
2 Kennigit (KingMorgan, Pouter Pigeon)
2 Winston (JHT, Kennigit)
1 Murska (Luizeu)
1 KingMorgan (BSmith)
1 Arakhor (Snerk)
1 JHT (Double A)
1 Xym (robbiecon)
1 remake20 (Legato)
1 Backwards Logic (Sprig)
1 Spaceman (Al Sipsclar)
1 Sprig (Winston)
1 Jarrema (Landlubber)
1 Double A (Zack)

Not Voting: 3 (Sam/Takhisis, Internet Flea, bladescape)

Day Two:

8 Kennigit (BSmith, Pigeon, Newyn, Murska, Martin, Choxorn, Zack, Remake)
4 Internet Flea (Takhisis, Bladescape, Cuthilius, Al Sipsclar)
3 Jarrema (Internet Flea, spaceman, Landlubber)
2 BSmith (Autolycus, KingMorgan)
2 Cuthilius (Double A, Xym)
1 Takhisis (Luizeu)
1 Landlubber (Jarrema)
1 Luizeu (Winston)
1 Internet Flea (Kennigit)

Not Voting: 2 (Sprig, Backwards Logic)

Day Three:

5 Luizeu (landlubber, KingMorgan, Takhisis, Jarrema, Xym)
3 Cuthilius (Autolycus, choxorn, Al Sips)
3 Jarrema (Internet Flea, spaceman, Cuthilius)
3 Sprig (Pouter Pigeon, Murska, Newyn)
1 Backwards Logic (Zack)
1 Takhisis (Luiz)
1 Autolycus (Winston)
1 Al (remake)

Not Voting: 4 (Sprig, BSmith1068, Backwards Logic, Double A)

Day Four:

13 Cuthillius (Choxorn, Al Sips, Internet Flea, Murska, Zack, Winston, Morgan, pigeon, landlubber, Double A, Spaceman98, Sprig, Autolycus)
1 Winston (BSmith)
1 Al Sips (Jarrema)
1 Jarrema (remake)
1 BSmith (Cuthillius)

Not Voting: 2 (Takhisis, Newyn)

 

[Al Sipsclar]

My N3 tracker has claimed to me. If someone thinks they tracked me N3, but didn't claim to me, please speak up.

Fair point. I thought he claimed doctor protection ring, though, not BP, unless you're talking about something I missed.

Al, you have so many abilities that it should be no hard matter to prove yourself somehow.

I advertised my ability on D3. I was tracked N3 and protected N4. The tracker and the protector can confirm this.

I believe Double A is a bad lynch candidate. He picked up on my thinly veiled advertisement right away, and my continuing existence leads me to believe that Double A harbors no ill intentions towards the town. Double A, do you have any testable ability?

I still think remake or spaceman are better lynch candidates, spaceman even more so. Role AND alignment cop sounds too powerful. The fact that it works perfectly on dead people, but flakes out on those who are still alive is highly suspicious.

 

[Newyn]

My N3 tracker has claimed to me. If someone thinks they tracked me N3, but didn't claim to me, please speak up.

I advertised my ability on D3. I was tracked N3 and protected N4. The tracker and the protector can confirm this.

I believe Double A is a bad lynch candidate. He picked up on my thinly veiled advertisement right away, and my continuing existence leads me to believe that Double A harbors no ill intentions towards the town. Double A, do you have any testable ability?

I still think remake or spaceman are better lynch candidates, spaceman even more so. Role AND alignment cop sounds too powerful. The fact that it works perfectly on dead people, but flakes out on those who are still alive is highly suspicious.

Yeah, that's all I need to make up my mind.
Unvote. Vote Al Sipsclar
Advocating the lynch of a claimed cop because their ability seems too powerful when your supposed ability from what I can gather is that you:
1)Know what gets done to you every night.
2)Can copy multiple people's abilities.
3)Can use copied abilities while also using your copy power on the same night.
An infallible seer I'm used to from my native forum and hardly consider OP, your ability on the other hand, I do consider absolutely OP.