Religious Left Making Strides

[IglooDame]

Funny, up here Neoliberals means hardcore capitalists, fiscally conservatives with tendencies against govermental expenses and environmental protection. They are the root of all evil.

Funny, up there I'd figure you'd refer to them as Nouveauliberals.

 

[blackheart]

About time...

 

[.Shane.]

Discuss. This is something that I've been talking about for years it seems like....I wonder if it can actually be a political force, or really...do we even want it to be?

Well, we'll see if this gathers momentum.

Honestly, if you were going to get into politics based solely on the the teachings of Jesus and the example he set, you'd be a Socialist.

In fact, I've pondered making bumper stickers that read "Jesus Christ: The First Socialist".

 

[MobBoss]

And here I thought "religous left" to be an oxymoronic label.

 

[blackheart]

And here I thought "religous left" to be an oxymoronic label.

Why, people on the left can't be religious?

 

[GenMarshall]

Why, people on the left can't be religious?

I am guessing that left as in liberal in the United States tends to bemore secular and non-Religious. I just noticed in Wikipedia that Roman Catholicism is also on the Religious Left.

 

[ironduck]

Religious political groupings make me sick.

 

[GenMarshall]

Religious political groupings make me sick.

Then why do some religions group in politics? Dont we have a separation of Church and State? .

 

[Masquerouge]

It's really quite perplexing the way religion has such an effect on politics in the US. In Australia, there is no such thing as a "religious right" or "religious left" (with the exception of the new Families First Party). There are religious members in both major parties. Religion really isn't an indicator of how people vote.

I agree. Seems like in the Western world, the USA is where religion is the most politicized.

 

[ironduck]

Then why do some religions group in politics? Dont we have a separation of Church and State? .

That is kind of my point.. in my opinion religion should be a private matter. It is, after all, about one's personal relationship with god(s), right? When religion enters politics it is always with the underlying agenda of being morally right 'because we know what god(s) say is morally right'. Instead of simply arguing rationally from one's own conviction, one must follow morals put down by someone else in a religious organization.

There is nothing wrong with being religious and politically involved. There is, however, everything wrong with being politically religious.

 

[jameson]

Here in the Netherlands, the real Christianist parties are almost entirely economically left-wing (with the exception of the nominally Christian Democrat Appeal, who are a bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites who can go either way depending on what will keep them in power). Homosexuality isn't an issue here, thank God ( ), and abortion and euthanasia are only an issue for the two small Christian parties.
Must have something to do with all that 'love your fellow man'-stuff in the Bible...

 

[GenMarshall]

That is kind of my point.. in my opinion religion should be a private matter. It is, after all, about one's personal relationship with god(s), right? When religion enters politics it is always with the underlying agenda of being morally right 'because we know what god(s) say is morally right'. Instead of simply arguing rationally from one's own conviction, one must follow morals put down by someone else in a religious organization.

There is nothing wrong with being religious and politically involved. There is, however, everything wrong with being politically religious.

To me, I feel that religion should as well be a private matter. If a religion gets itself in politics, well it should lose it's tax exempt status . Moderation between religion and politics is good, but too much can be too much.

 

[Swiss Bezerker]

I have noticed that the Republican Party tends to have a more religious base while the Democratic Party is more secular. But this is just my observation from what I have seen.

NO! WHat an outragous statement! How could you suspect such a thing!

 

[De Lorimier]

And here I thought "religous left" to be an oxymoronic label.

Why?

The way I see it, Jesus was a lot closer to a San Fran Hippy than, say, Jerry Falwell for example.

 

[ironduck]

The preachings of Jesus go against almost everything the religious right of America is in favour of. I have never understood how it works out in their heads. But then again, I don't understand how it works out in Inqvisitor's head either.

 

[The Yankee]

To me, I feel that religion should as well be a private matter. If a religion gets itself in politics, well it should lose it's tax exempt status . Moderation between religion and politics is good, but too much can be too much.

No...if the religions lose that status, then they'll have far too much power in the government, given how much it will contribute to its coffers. There's one thing if a church speaks out on an issue and its people (as voters) push for something, but quite another when the church itself has the power because they provide the tax dollars. Both religion and government would likely end up corrupted from the act.

 

[The Yankee]

The preachings of Jesus go against almost everything the religious right of America is in favour of. I have never understood how it works out in their heads. But then again, I don't understand how it works out in Inqvisitor's head either.

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[Evie]

Simple. They (Falwell, Inquisitors, etc) read the bible very thoroughly, until they got to the one page that had only two words on it.

Unfortunately, those two words were "New Testament", not "The End".

 

[downtown]

Wait, did we ban Invq?

At anyrate, I find mobboss's post to be part of a pretty big problem. I see no reason why democrats cannot also be religious....there are millions of us after all

 

[The Yankee]

And here I thought "religous left" to be an oxymoronic label.

Unless you're yanking all of our chains here, I thought the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world were part of a religious left. Okay, not the best examples, but the best well-known examples.

Plus John Paul II wasn't exactly a neocon!