First of all, ty for reacting and explaining some things I didn't understand to me. I now feel definately better and worse at the same time, better for seeing that there are people sharing my thoughts, and worse, for having written to
Ori to move my threads, but the decision on moving them, is final, because I hope to draw more attention to the HoF forums and to HoF play. I don't think that I'll regret it, because 1 honest post with real feedback, is worth more than knowing 100 people that weren't willing to even take the time to write a simple "+1" or "read it" are profiting from it.
Yes, I know that that's not the best way to feel, but being ignored is the worst thing people can do to me, to me it's the deepest sign of disrespect and degradation.
As an explanation: Writing something, no matter what, is what keeps something alive. It's words, that have power, it actions that produce reactions, and if you got my experience, you'll know that someone ends up sick, if he doesn't react to the words of others, you'll know that life is energy, and you'll know that things repeat themselves in time. By showing me disregard, you'll evoke me disregarding, you'll produce hate where there was love, and where there was life, healthiness and joy, sickness will arise. This is something that should make you think, as it's from a perspective of me, and I'm the same human that you are, just with the difference that my experience differs from yours, that's why I know these things, while you know others.
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Now towards your answers:
In this case I have to post.
Kudos to you, I really enjoyed the read. I'm currently working/travelling without CIV so at the moment I read the forums as a substitute for playing. BUT, when I finally get back (besides finishing my own forum game) I plan to dig out this replay, apply as much as I can and go for a culture game like this myself.
I did quite a few culture games, but never planned them from the beginning. Instead I would "settle" for cultural victory being boxed in without production but decent commerce and a GA-city. In those games the initial setup would often spoil the success (think Great Library generating scientists for example)
Don't misunderstand the attention people are getting. I myself might be responsible for a number of those clicks but simply because I couldn't resist checking if there's still people writing pages of advice to a person that's been trolling them for three threads in a row. Because I always fear that people at some point will be frustrated and stop giving that advice for good when other new players might still need it.
I started playing Civ4 just 1 year ago, so for me it's not dead at all. And at some point I definitely plan to play on deity. However, since I'm a bit "late to the party" I read strategy articles that were usually written several years ago, so I never bothered to drop a comment. But this (your) case reminded me that at least for the new threads I should remember to do so more often.
So yeah, keep up the good work!
TY for being honest, and respect for your courage to jump in, where someone's needed and for making the first step.
What you're describing in the 1st paragraph, is basically the difference between a "normal" game and a HoF-game. In HoF, one chooses the type of victory when creating the map, and one chooses all settings to support onesself in the set aim.
This, the choice of the victory, is not only very difficult (so one could argue that HoF-games are easier) , it's the factor the determines 99% of the strategy. Like you said, building the GL doesn't make sense, in a scenario where Great Artists are wanted.
I btw. share your thoughts that CivNoobie is trolling the people, but I think that just then, people should drop back to those people that aren't. Anyhow, I need to get distance to what you're saying are the main reasons for posting, because they transmit a picture of the humans, that's only as bad, as it can be true.
Calm down, Seraiel. Why are you so concerned about how many clicks and replies your threads get? People have all different motivations for posting ad replying. And for that CivNoobie thread you refer to, you do realize that many of the posts there either
criticize the poster or consist of the
poster spamming posts? I would never want to have a thread that gets tons of views but also has people roundly bashing me here and there. In contrast, your threads, while obviously superior in quality, describe games that are (1)
finished (i.e. not ongoing) and (2) display extraordinary skill that leave
little to be criticized, thus removing two of the largest factors for why others post! Don't forget too that Cultural victories naturally are "less epic" than worldwide domination victories, so this thread understandably gets less attention as compared to your previous replays.
Also, do remember that Beyond the Sword was published in 2007. It's 2013 now, so logically there will be fewer active players here. I'm still reasonably active, but I just joined a multiplayer game over at Realms Beyond that will take up the majority of my Civilization time for the next year.
I'll still be around, but due to time limitations and my own university studies, I'll logically have to restrict how much I can read in detail and subsequently generate responses.
Hi
DMOC.
I honestly must admit, that I didn't even look or read the thread CivNoobie posted, but only looked at the clicks & posts. I cannot understand people's attention getting drawed to something bad, while quality, towards you, makes people feel intimidated or even inferior.
Also, I understand about your feeling of "epicness" , and it makes me hopeful for my next Writeup, because that one is a Conquest victory. Basically though, any kind of victory is the same, and if one has that in mind, the difference between this writeup and the last is / was, that this one was almost purely educational. I published, what I found out from having played a row of very similar games, and I didn't just behold it to myself, I shared.
This has to produce something better than the disregard I feel that I am, or was getting. It cannot be, that (bad) trolling, produces more attention than research, otherwise, because otherwise, that would mean acceptance of humans being as bad and as stupid as described, and to that, I resist. I believe, and I found all right to do so, and it doesn't even get in the way of what I know from what I learned about science in my studies. It's just product of a person I met.
Part of what I am, is my will to change people's mind, and towards you, this means, that the argument of the game being published 2007 doesn't count, because I'm not comparing this thread to a thread posted in 2007. :>
Seraiel, DMOC already put it in an intelligent way, but I want to add that I enjoy your threads a ton. Not everybody does though, as they might not understand a lot of what's going on in your highly optimized game and don't dare to ask questions or critique as it would (in their mind) reveal their incompetence and make them look foolish.
If you want your threads to get more action, start playing worse, then everyone feels they can contribute.
Uhm... No :>
Instead, people will begin to ask questions because they already have them, they also know. Playing worse, or different is absolutely no option for me. :> Not being understood fully, is absolutely ok, I don't expect everybody to know as much about the game as I do, to play it in the same way that I do, and I have nothing against incompetence. I have something against trying to hide incompetence, I even have admitted my own incompetence in this thread, and, I have something against sickness, dumbness and falseness, but with all other things, I can live quite well, and falseness is ok, as long as people are ready.