Requesting following features

j_mie6 said:
don't miss the end of the last post.
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I don't need anything translated, but I'm trying to make all Python code ready for translations - for when you get around to it.

j_mie6 said:
are we going to make it so that the rebels are non-contactable but are NOT always at war with everybody and when they respawn their diplomacy is reset? and will I need to do anything to the WBS to encorporate this?
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How will one declare war on someone who isn't contactable? (By moving units into their territory, I guess...)

Since the rebel Civs are only spawning when the Rebellion module calls for them to do so, I can easily reset all diplomacy on the "spawn event". I trust you will remind me if I manage to forget about this.

It just dawned on me that there is a setPlayerAlive event callback to the Event Manager. I'll look into hooking this up with resetting diplomacy, then.

j_mie6 said:
could Asaf make a feature that could do this?
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I don't think there need to be anything done in the SDK for resetting diplomacy, at least.
 
yer movement into territory.

is it possible to have them non-contactable but at peace with all but their conterpart?
 
right we have a big problem... I filled the WBS to the max (all 17 teams filled so therefore missing slaves and byzantium) and it worked untill I tried to go into worldbuilder where it crashed... It may be because there are 8 civs using the SAME leader at the same time... I will have to change their leaders. But if it still deosn't work what should we do? If it fails over 17 teams instead, what will we do then? do the civs have to be in the WBS and can they be paired up another way? we have to start preparing for these problems now...
 
j_mie6 said:
is it possible to have them non-contactable but at peace with all but their conterpart?
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This is a prototype for the functionality you requested:
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Code: 
def resetMinorCiv(ePlayer, bAlive):
        if not bAlive: return
        pCivPlayer = instance(ePlayer)
        pPlayer = pCivPlayer.get(CyPlayer)
        if not pPlayer.isMinorCiv(): return
        pPlayer.killAllDeals()
        pTeam = pCivPlayer.get(CyTeam)
        for eRivalTeam in CivPlayer.getPlayers(True, teamID):
                if eRivalTeam == pCivPlayer.get(teamID): continue
                elif ( eRivalTeam == pCivPlayer.get(teamID) - iNumMajorPlayers
                       and not pTeam.isAtWar(eRivalTeam) ):
                        pTeam.declareWar(eRivalTeam, False, -1)
                elif pTeam.isAtWar(eRivalTeam):
                        pTeam.makePeace(eRivalTeam)
This is however not good sample code for learning anything as it relies heavily on my CivPlayer module/class. A CivPlayer instance is basically wrapper for player/team ID's and objects. An array of CivPlayer instances for all players is created on initialization of the module, and you can fetch one of these with the instance() function. (The argument is the player ID or the player's index number.)

By calling the CivPlayer.get() method on the CivPlayer instance you can fetch any of the available values: PlayerType, CyPlayer instance, TeamType, CyTeam instance or a PyPlayer instance (from PyHelpers). This is basically for convenience - my convenience. Otherwise I would have to keep calling the methods CyGlobalContext.getPlayer(), CyGlobalContext.getTeam() and CyPlayer.getTeam() continuously in every single module that is part of your mod. I'm basically done with this kind of repetition. :rolleyes:

Also, the CivPlayer.getPlayers() class method is used to loop through all CivPlayer intances. The first parameter used here is True and refers to a major-players-only setting (so the loop is excluding all minor players - for speed purposes mainly). The second parameter tells the method to supply the for in loop with TeamType values (teamID's).

What the code does, is that it firstly kills all diplomatic deals in effect for the minor Civ. Then it loops through all major player rivals and cancels all wars with their teams. And once the loop hits the minor Civs major counterpart the code makes the player's team declares war on it.
 
j_mie6 said:
right we have a big problem... I filled the WBS to the max (all 17 teams filled so therefore missing slaves and byzantium) and it worked untill I tried to go into worldbuilder where it crashed... It may be because there are 8 civs using the SAME leader at the same time... I will have to change their leaders. But if it still deosn't work what should we do? If it fails over 17 teams instead, what will we do then? do the civs have to be in the WBS and can they be paired up another way? we have to start preparing for these problems now...
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I have no idea what is causing this, but I bet its not using the same leader, at least. It could be any number of things or setting you've made. Debugging is hard. :(

Try starting over with just a bare-bones WBS, with basically no content what-so-ever. If you can get it to work with more than 18 players/teams, then its something else entirely...

I'm not aware of any 18 player limit in BtS in any case. And if there is such a thing, Asaf would be able to increase this value to whatever in his next DLL release. (He has promised to update this coming week anyway.) So I thing this issue will be solved in one way or another.

edit: Aha, the problem isn't having more than 18 players at all, but rather that the minor players you did add are crashing the World Builder. This is probably caused by some error in your WBS, but you don't actually need the WB for editing the WBS... I don't see the problem, really.

edit: Since the WB is mostly Python anyway (isn't it?) you should probably be on the look for Python exceptions. Have you checked the error logs?
 
how are they crashing it?! I have not done anything to those 2 since they were put in... And can I ask how you know of this? BTW: the rebels have been currently set as playable. I am still changing the leaders though and then I will look for those lovely exeptions... I do use the worldbuilder alot though. I use for all sorts of things including to see if things work in a much easier fashion
 
could it be that they are not last in the list? the Iberians and the Colonies were left at positions 8 + 9 and the 8 rebels put after it in order of the original civs...
 
j_mie6 said:
how are they crashing it?! I have not done anything to those 2 since they were put in... And can I ask how you know of this? BTW: the rebels have been currently set as playable. I am still changing the leaders though and then I will look for those lovely exeptions... I do use the worldbuilder alot though. I use for all sorts of things including to see if things work in a much easier fashion
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I'm not sure what you mean, but chances are that you made an error somewhere. Now, these things can be very hard to spot, so I can only wish you good luck with the bug-hunt. :p

Have you tried accessing the WB without the updated WBS? Because it could be something else than the most recent additions that are causing the crash. Just so that you know where to start looking.

And I fully understand how frustrating this is. If you can't find anything causing the crash in the WBS, you could try posting the whole thing on the main modding forum. Hopefully some seasoned WBS modder will be able to spot the problem. (It may be something either of us have ever even heard of, so looking for the problem might turn out to be a waste of time.)
 
j_mie6 said:
could it be that they are not last in the list? the Iberians and the Colonies were left at positions 8 + 9 and the 8 rebels put after it in order of the original civs...
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I don't think that the order of appearance matters - its all the same to the game engine/WB. Look for errors in your WB edits. Something that isn't making sense.
 
normal WB works with the other senario because I used VERY recently (as in changed nothing since) to test Asaf's Ethnic Buildings... It MUST be the new WBS I made (copy + paste all the new into a Jamie's Rome 1.32 just incase something like this happened.) I will post it here in this thread as well.

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Code: 
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It could possibly be some issue with having defined players that are counted as being alive as default, but when the WB is trying to access their units/cities/whatever it crashes - since none is to be found. If you can access the Python console you would be able to check this with:
Code: 
print gc.getPlayer(10).isAlive()
If the message is printed out as True, then player 10 is alive and not dead. Then we need to kill it off on initialization. But one thing at a time...
 
wait a minute... I did edit one thing and I completly forgot...

check out the difference between 0 - 9 and then 10... notice anything? You should... I removed the rebels spawn co-ordinates:

Missing
StateReligion=
StartingEra=ERA_ANCIENT
RandomStartLocation=false

compared to the normal:

StartingX=22, StartingY=40
StateReligion=
StartingEra=ERA_ANCIENT
RandomStartLocation=false


I didn't think it would cause a problem... it can be added back in and due to them being defaultly set as having no units to spawn with what so ever they should not appear...

you think that is it?
 
Actually there is a hard-coded limit of 18 players in the DLL.
It shouldn't be a problem to change it, though. IIRC changing it to another value will not cause any problems (it was done in several mods) but I will have to compile it.
I'll add it when I next update the DLL.

Any preferred new limit?
 
25 (just to be on the safe side just incase 5 new civs appear from somewhere...)
 
You can't exclude anything from being faulty at this point, like the (presumably) new Rebel leader. Have you checked if that works with the original WBS version?

You basically need to go back to the last working WBS and test every new feature, one at a time. Only when one thing works do you move on the the next.

There are new flags and new civilizations defined in the XML. Each one could cause an issue.
 
Asaf said:
Actually there is a hard-coded limit of 18 players in the DLL.
Click to expand...
Does raising the limit also mean that one needs to include empty entries for the unused player/team slots in the WBS?
 
presumably yes, if there are unused ones all the time then they must always be defined
 
If there indeed is an issue with the dead minor Civs being in the WBS from start - without any hardware to call their own - then it could be possible to rectify the situation by giving all of them one unit in some tile outside of the playable portion of the scenario map. Then, on the GameStart event callback we use CyPlayer.killUnits() on all the rebel players. This should update their status to being dead. Now the WB should have no issues with "alive" players having no units.

But check the alive status of those players before I start working on this. (If you can't access the console, then we could add some debug print-outs in CvEventManager.)
Spoiler :
Code: 
	def onGameStart(self, argsList):
		'Called at the start of the game'

		[B]for ePlayer in range(gc.getMAX_CIV_PLAYERS()):
			print "player " + str(ePlayer) + "'s alive status: " + str(gc.getPlayer(ePlayer).isAlive())[/B]
 
The standard senario works but even after re-adding the coordinates back into the WBS the new one still doesn't work... I will try the leader next... IF it still doesn't work we will ping a warrior for the rebels into the ocean that is russia.

remember they are playable... ah... maybee the problem is that a playable civ is dead from the start...


BTW: no exceptions
 
Baldyr said:
Does raising the limit also mean that one needs to include empty entries for the unused player/team slots in the WBS?
Click to expand...

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing you don't.

There is solver's DLL for 34/50 civs somewhere. Maybe download it, create and save a map in the world builder and see what you get?
 
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