Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall: Europe' started by st.lucifer, Nov 7, 2007.
Did you read the previous post. ? (417)
I looked at the map. I think that marble should be added in Tuscany. There are located the biggest marble quarries in Italy, where there is Carrara (in the map maybe one tile north of Pisa?)
Don't worry. The resources are really preliminary, and I don't think I redid the marble/stone resources yet. There will definitely be some marble in Italy.
Rhye, I can see your argument for enlarging the British Isles, but I think they're pretty close to being proportional with the rest of Europe, and as stated before, I'm reluctant to give England any more to work with. They'll have a much higher concentration of resources than most civs, lots of trade from coastal cities, and good food and production from livestock and all the hills.
Jessiecat, if you'd like to put up a WB of your proposed addition to Scotland, I would like to see it. I'm having a hard time envisioning it, other than stretching the Lothian region another tile?
The Hungarians are further south than modern-day Hungary both for historical reasons and for geographic balance. Austria's going to have a tough time surviving, and this way Hungary competes with Venice and Bulgaria for the Balkans, as well as Austria for the Danube valley.
OK. I've had a go at slightly enlarging Scotland, mostly in the north and NW
but also in the SW to represent Dumfrieshire which should more prominent.
Don't worry about the terrain features though I've rejigged the mts. a bit
and left more of a gap between them to represent the Great Glen (Inverness
to Fort William). Just my idea but I think it looks a bit more proportional.
Here are the screenshots. What do you think?
BTW I think Edinburgh should be moved 1 tile NE.
No worries, it's the only thing remotely useful that came to my mind. Nice work
I like the changes, especially to the mountains - I'll put them into the main map. Did you mean move Edinburgh 1 NE from the spot that you have it shown here, or did you mean to keep it the way it's shown in the second screenshot?
I meant 1 sq. NE from where it is in the screen shot. I'd suggest moving the river 1 sq. N as well
to keep Edinburgh on the river. You'll note also I've left the area NE of Inverness fairly flat as it
is pretty much farmland in reality.
BTW How do the grassy hills look to you to represent moorland? That's what I suggested in my earlier post.
Finally I did upload the Bulgarian and Byzantine settler maps to the Wiki. Sorry for the delay.
There is a zipped WB Bulgarian settler map already in the files, however, it is out of date. Would it be presumptuous to delete that one?
I would. Yes please. I've actually tried to do it but it says I have to be an administrator to do that. Frustrating, As I'd like to slightly revise the Arab settler map I did.
When I try to delete, this is what happens:
Sorry, you can not delete file in this page. Only owner (creator) of this page, site administrators and perhaps selected moderators are allowed to.
I don't think we should ask Rhye to spend time managing our files, however, I wonder if it would be possible to set either St. Lucifer or jessiecat as moderators or something so that we can edit the files. This problem would only get worse as we start working on the code.
Same problem as I had. I'm happy with St. Lucifer as a wiki moderator. I think Talkie Toaster was the creator, Kairob and Rhye are moderators and Umarth and Disenfranchised have access to files as well. Umarth was converting our settler maps to code but I don't know what's happening now. There's lots of maps in the files with some coming from ijnavy, D. Zavoevatell, Virdrago and others. So plenty of coding left to do.
However everybody seems pretty quiet at the moment. Guess they're all busy with their own stuff. Frustrating I know as it'd be nice to crack on a bit faster with this mod. That's not a dig at St. Lucifer or anybody else. Everybody's got personal lives and priorities to deal with, which come first. Just a bit frustrating, as I've said.
My exams will finally be over this week after which I'll be taking a short holiday and then I'd very much like to have (another) crack at some code.
I hope you don't have the same problem 3Miro and I have. Once we load the settler maps into the wiki files we are not allowed to retrieve them or delete old ones because we're not administrators or moderators. If you can't either then we'll have to get somebody like Talkie Toaster or Rhye to arrange access for us. I don't think even St. Lucifer has access either.
I can load them into the wiki. If you want, you can upload the settler maps and I'll put them into code and then into the wiki.
What do you mean by wiki files?
Click "files" at the bottom of the wiki main page. There you will find a number of settler maps that
3Miro, myself and others have uploaded. We can add more maps to those files but are not allowed
to extract, alter or delete them once they are there. As 3Miro has described, we get a
message denying us because we are not the originator of the site, an administrator or a
selected moderator. Try it yourself. Hope you have more luck.
BTW If not there, where did you want us to post our excel maps for coding?
Well I can download them fine but I can't delete them like you say. Just upload new files when you make changes and call them v1, v2, etc.
OK. That's fine. As long as you can use them once they're posted there.
Eventually, though, somebody like yourself or St. Lucifer will need access to edit or
delete them. Maybe Talkie Toaster could be asked to expand the no. of named moderators.
How about that?
EDIT FYI The latest Arab and the Ottoman settler maps are now listed as 16.6 xls.
The Bulgaria and Byzantine ones are there too (bottom of the list)
I was feeling a little guilty about being MIA, but as long as I'm not the only one getting some rest I feel a little bit better.
I'll be excited to be able to 'import' and change the codes we have once you get to them! Once that's done we'll finally be finished with some things. Of course, if Scotland's changing, who's to say we won't change France and Spain? Nevertheless, any step towards finalization is a step in the right direction...
I haven't looked at Scotland since I am spending June with my sisters and July at Arabic Camp (both without PCs or CIV) but I think that any improvement is good. I don't know that we want Scotland any bigger, but if we do than that's great.
The deleting files issue is a menace. However, the worst that can happen is there are boring old files lying around. Hardly a scandal.
I like st. lucifer's updated general map from what I've read in the post (I haven't seen that one either) and I'm hoping [insert generous donor here] has been working on Northern Europe as s/he so munificently offered.
I feel kind of useless as a contributer, but at least you have a somewhat handsome cheerleader!
Sorry for my recent absenteeism. I'd be happy to have you as wiki moderator, if you can get toaster to give you admin status.
I'm still reading stuff, but haven't had much chance to post anything in depth recently. I'm mostly working on stuff related to the tech tree.
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