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St. Lucifer I see your Bulgaria argument. I am currently working on an updated version of the map, I will take your comments into account and will see what I can come up with. I hope to have a map in a couple of days or so.
-I'll move the mountain pass.
-We're not going to have rice in the mod as a food resource, which is why I went with wheat for that part of the valley. If there's another grain which fits better, that might work. Is it ok if we substitute clams for fish? I'd prefer to have clams be a more Mediterranean-centric resource, while fish are more Northern/Western, to promote trade between the two. There will also be fish off of Corsica, which Genoa is likely to control.
Why not having Rice ? It spread in Europe in the Middle Ages.
Clams in the Med is a good idea. They are more suited for isles though. Sicilian clams are quite renowned for example. But I wouldn't limit fishes to the ocean because a) they are better than clams/crabs and b) it's not realistic. Also the northern seas will already have whales which I assume won't be in the Med.
The reason why I said Genua should have fishes and not farms is that it relied particularly on fishing. Genua is built along a hill, and behind it are mountains. There is really no room for farming there, and I think the current wheat tile should be a hill.
Bulgaria: it starts in 620, in that time the Bulgars were based in Crimea not in Bulgaria. Could this help with their start ? Their first goal could be to control Bulgaria.
Úmarth;6816064 said:I think you need to cover the north Black Sea coast.
Úmarth;6816064 said:I think you need to cover the north Black Sea coast.
Where besides Italy was rice a major crop? If it was widespread, it might be worth considering. We're going to have at the very least wheat and barley, and probably either oats or rye as our third grain, although I'd be willing to consider rice if you can make a good argument for it. I have similar feelings on potatoes.
I have no problem putting fish in the Mediterranean - it was and is an important resource, and should be reflected as such. I was going to put clams next to Genoa to avoid the redundancy with Corsica.
We're going to have to put the Crimea at the top of everybody's desirable list. The number of countries that controlled, occupied, and fought over it during the span of our mod is pretty impressive.
Well it was brought in Europe by the Arabs initially in Sicily and Spain, then it spread also to the italian peninsula and France. But I don't want to make an argument for it if you have other resources in mind which are more european
Speaking of resources, is Amber on the list ?
I think redudancy is good. If Genua colonizes Corsica and will have 2 fishes, it can trade one away for clams.
I wonder if we can make Genua get there![]()
Sorry it takes me so long, but I had a paper to write and submit.
The updated Balkan map is almost ready. I have the draft of it in world builder format, all I need to do is to copy the cities to Excel format with the corresponding names (Greek and Bulgarian)
I followed the convention that no city should be bigger than 2x2 (most are 2x2) except for the prebuild ones. I left as prebuild Beograde, Ragusa, Split, Adrianopolis, Sofia, Thessaloníki, Constantinople, Athens.
A note on the spelling: The convention is that the names should be as written on the corresponding language plus some latinization. There are differences between the latinization of Bulgarian, Macedonian, Serbian and other languages in the region. For the Bulgarian map I picked a Bulgarian latinization, so Skopje = Skopie, Beograde = Belgrad, Nis = Nish, Pristina = Prishtina and so on.
I don't think AI Genoa would go for the Crimea, but they're among those who are going to be programmed to want it.
Here is a zip file, I hope this one works.
The WB maps are so much easier to work with, they are more visual.
Checked the ottoman files. I might update that map here and there to match the other Balkan maps. Note Skopie is not east of Sofia and I have fiddled with some of the alignments of the other cities.
I don't think the Roman or Byzantine empires ever held something north of Danube. Bulgaria controlled most of the region of modern Romania (for a short time), but never urbanized it. It seems like cities there started to grow in importance only after the coming of the Ottomans (not necessarily because of the Ottomans, but in that period of time).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bucharest
Checked the ottoman files. I might update that map here and there to match the other Balkan maps. Note Skopie is not east of Sofia and I have fiddled with some of the alignments of the other cities.
I don't think the Roman or Byzantine empires ever held something north of Danube. Bulgaria controlled most of the region of modern Romania (for a short time), but never urbanized it. It seems like cities there started to grow in importance only after the coming of the Ottomans (not necessarily because of the Ottomans, but in that period of time).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bucharest
It seems like it would be better if there were Bulgarian names for Wallachia/Moldova, assuming such names exist. It may not be 100% historical, but they're likely to control those areas in the game at least half the time, and they did spend some time there before winding up in the Danube valley. If the information's not there, don't worry about it, but if you can find it, that would be great.
Just a quick question. I'm nearly finished the Arabian settler map on excel. It covers from Constantinople and Greece all the way through to North Africa and Morocco. Should I keep going thru Iberia, Sicily and the Balearics or not? If so, could it double as the Al Andalus settler map as they would use the same names? IMO![]()