RFC Europe Wonders

[jessiecat]

We're already using that for Escorial.

Maybe one of the city centres from here?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=315821

Don't look like it, but there's nothing else!

Edit: so what you think about Whitehall or Westminter? I have Hungarian Parliament graphics for that.

Right. But there's always a Plan B.

I understand we're getting rid of the Palacio de Pena because it's too modern. Why don't we use that art for the Escorial Palace. At least they look a bit similiar. Then we could have the Bratislava art for the Tower of London (and make it white?). What about that?

I like the idea of Westminster Palace or Whitehall Palace. Probably the latter because it looks closer to the Hungarian one. It may be more recent but very historic (the execution of Charles I, for example).

But much more famous and probably the next most historic and most visited building in London after the Tower of London is Westminster Abbey (Almost all the monarchs of England were crowned there) but that's another religious building rather than a palace isn't it? Though it is very historic and is very important politically.
Here's a painting of it by Canaletto and we've got art that could be used for it.(Center of strip - Not exact but pretty good, and we've not used it!). What do you think?

 

[merijn_v1]

We're already using that for Escorial.

Maybe one of the city centres from here?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=315821

Don't look like it, but there's nothing else!

Edit: so what you think about Whitehall or Westminter? I have Hungarian Parliament graphics for that.

Or make the biggest City-Center of (above row, 2nd of right) them the new art of the palace. Current we have the one below the library (it could also be the library) and IMO it doesn't look like a palace.

 

[jessiecat]

Or make the biggest City-Center of (above row, 2nd of right) them the new art of the palace. Current we have the one below the library (it could also be the library) and IMO it doesn't look like a palace.

That's a good solution as well. What do you think of Westminster Abbey? Probably more famous world-wide, very old and historically at least as important as the other 2. Much better art as well, don't you think?

BTW Just in case anybody's not been to the Tower of London or knows what it looks like, this is it as seen from the Thames.

 

[merijn_v1]

That's a good solution as well. What do you think of Westminster Abbey? Probably more famous world-wide, very old and historically at least as important as the other 2. Much better art as well, don't you think?

I agree the WA is important. But what I was trying to say is the art of the palace is rubbish. I want a better art and I don't care if it's this one or another. The only condition I want is that the new art looks like a palace or castle. And if this art fits better for the WA you may use that for the WA.

 

[Michael Vick]

WA should definitely be in, and I agree, although it's a religious building, have it work more as a palace.

BTW somebody mentioned changing the Escorial art? I think the current art is more or less what we're looking for if only it could be changed to white.

 

[jessiecat]

WA should definitely be in, and I agree, although it's a religious building, have it work more as a palace.

BTW somebody mentioned changing the Escorial art? I think the current art is more or less what we're looking for if only it could be changed to white.

WA is a religious building but it played a big political role since 1066.

It was me that suggested giving the Palacio de Pena art to the Escorial as they look similiar in style. That is, if we are dropping the PdP as too modern.?

 

[Michael Vick]

Oh, well I kind of like the Palacio da Pena, especially since we have super nice art for it. If however you do remove it, I'd like to re-suggest Mosteiro dos Jeronimos (Monastery of the Hieronymites) as a replacement Portuguese wonder.

 

[merijn_v1]

IMO we should change the name of The Monastery of Cluny into Cluny Abbey or Abbey of Cluny.

 

[merijn_v1]

Just a minor idea:

Give the Gardens of Al Andalus the power that you can build farms with (or even without) irrigation. So you don't have to research Public Works first. And it holds its old power.

 

[micbic]

@merjin v1: Agree with both.

 

[jessiecat]

@merjin v1: Agree with both.

Fine with me too.

 

[merijn_v1]

Only one "problem", I can't code it, so sedna17 should do that.

 

[jessiecat]

Another thing. It was mentioned before that the Palacio de Pena is too recent for this mod. I checked and it was constructed in the 1840's. So it should be dropped IMO.
My idea is that we use the art for the Escorial and shift its art to something else, like the Tower of London (replaces Scotland Yard), which I suggested before as we need a National Wonder that can be built by a Great Spy. What do people think of that?

 

[sedna17]

I approve of the suggestion for the Gardens of Al-Andalus power. That involves some SDK coding, but just moving an existing XML element (from techs) into the building XML. I know that's pretty straightforward (there's a good tutorial), so I see no reason why I won't be able to make it happen -- eventually, but not immediately.

I'm pretty sure JediClemente is continuing to work on the Wonders, so hopefully he sees your other suggestions.

 

[merijn_v1]

IMO it's better to change the name of the St. Peter's Basilica back into the Apostolic Palace.

 

[eris23]

how about adding the teufelsbrücke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teufelsbrücke) which gives the city it builds 1 additional trade route and enables it to work mountain tiles or enables your units to move through mountains. either way, something with mountains. (on another note, why is there no single cow in the entire swiss area?)
maybe as a national wonder since those bridges were quite common all over europe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil's_Bridge, then likely without any mountain improvements, just adds 1 trade route.
requires engineering or vaulted arches.

 

[3Miro]

I approve of the suggestion for the Gardens of Al-Andalus power. That involves some SDK coding, but just moving an existing XML element (from techs) into the building XML. I know that's pretty straightforward (there's a good tutorial), so I see no reason why I won't be able to make it happen -- eventually, but not immediately.

I'm pretty sure JediClemente is continuing to work on the Wonders, so hopefully he sees your other suggestions.

I will do the code. You basically want a building to enable irrigations (connect one farm to another), is that right? I will add an XML tag for it and do the C++ code.

 

[sedna17]

I will do the code. You basically want a building to enable irrigations (connect one farm to another), is that right? I will add an XML tag for it and do the C++ code.

Yeah, I think the idea would be to clone the functionality of the Civ4TechInfos bIrrigation tag.

 

[JediClemente]

I'm very sorry. I have exams this month and almost no free time.
Every day I want to finish the wonders I had weeks ago (they only lack buttons and movies) something prevents me from doing it.

Again, these are:
Palazzo San Giorgio (Genoa, as Statue of Liberty)
Copernicus Observatory (Poland, +1 specialist for each town in the city's FC)
Fontainebleau (France, +1 for artist)
Bibliotheca Corviniana (Hungary, +1 free tech, now Round Church gives some scientific bonus instead, and becomes obsolete later)
Imperial Diet (Germany, should name it Reichstag but may be confusing, enables all expansion civics)
Stephansdom (Austria, +2 stability for running monarchy, -25% war weariness)
Amsterdam Beurs (Netherlands, obviously)

The main bonus for the latter one (+100% ) implies some change for Escorial Palace.
Will change the text for Gardens of Al Andalus to that irrigation thingy (like it very much), and the palace graphics.
Suggested some time ago the Hungarian Parliament graphics for Westminster Abbey (suggested to enable all labor civics).

Palacio da Pena needs to be changed for sure, maybe Ribeira Palace keeping the graphics?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribeira_Palace
Also like the aforementioned monastery.

Now that I see there's a new test version from yesterday, I suppose there won't be a new one until october. I expect to really finish the wonders this time.

BTW merijn, there was an old St. Peter's Basilica before the current Reinassance one, and it had the same name. I prefer to keep it, but if it's an important issue we can change it.

 

[jessiecat]

If we drop the Palacio de Pena, just replace it with one of the ones you mentioned. The Escorial could have its graphics. I did suggest art for Westminster Abbey a few posts ago (Post 601 - middle pic) which is much better than the Hungarian Parliament. At least it looks very similiar.
BTW What happened to the Tower of London? We still need that National Wonder that can be built by a Great Spy. We could use any tower as a placeholder. Maybe the art for the old Belem Tower, now that we've got much better art. Just make it white, if you can.