RFCEurope 1.1
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I was thinking that too. Really should be Kingdom of Leon until they capture Cordoba.
Obviously, once all the new civs and the corporation revamps are done. This is a minor detail.
AbsintheRed
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This is the current plan
Still want to impove it, so DCN updates are not in yet
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Could you also change England's name when they're a vassal to France? La Mancha makes me think of Don Quixote. I looked it up, I can't even find where that name even came from.
Also, I would throw in my dime and say Spain as a vassal of France should be Province of Navarre.
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The English DCN will be updated too
I'm not sure about Navarre, especially since Aragon will also get in
Anyway, here is the thread about Dynamic Civ Names :http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=12183154#post12183154
There is still a lot to improve
Try dowloading it again, scourceforge is pretty reliable
The file for RFCE 1.1 should dl without problems
Alternatively, try the SVN version:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=485431
Hey Absinthe, any news/ideas on the byzbug? I really want to try the remaking of the Roman Empire in RFCE 1.1
BTW, I'm changing my specialization on College from Production Engineering to Computer Engineering (I should have done this since the beggining), so I hope that I may help with modding ASAP. For now I only have newb knowledge on C++ (those starting classes every engineer has to learn), so this may take some time
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BTW, I'm changing my specialization on College from Production Engineering to Computer Engineering (I should have done this since the beggining), so I hope that I may help with modding ASAP. For now I only have newb knowledge on C++ (those starting classes every engineer has to learn), so this may take some time
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AbsintheRed
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I don't get it, what difference does it make to you?
The stability is displayed wrong up until you found your first city, but that's all
Byzantine expansion won't be easier (stability-wise) after this is fixed
BTW, I'm changing my specialization on College from Production Engineering to Computer Engineering (I should have done this since the beggining), so I hope that I may help with modding ASAP. For now I only have newb knowledge on C++ (those starting classes every engineer has to learn), so this may take some time
CE is pretty useful, I also took a couple courses recently
AbsintheRed
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Sry, there is no other dl mirror
But what difference would it make if your problem is your slow internet connection?
Sourceforge is pretty reliable in my experience
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I don't get it, what difference does it make to you?
The stability is displayed wrong up until you found your first city, but that's all
Byzantine expansion won't be easier (stability-wise) after this is fixed
CE is pretty useful, I also took a couple courses recently
Does that mean if I dont found any new cities as Byzantines I cant see my actual stability? (but rather a bugged value that could be both higher and lower than the actual value?)
AbsintheRed
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Not really. The initial stability that somehow shows up is 8 points higher than it should be
So it's a fix value
Also, stability calculations are based on this value, so there won't be any issues with some mechanics starting unexpectedly
I see. I didn't realize that was the problem before 
So I'll continue my game, if nothing is going to change.
BTW, I still think there is no virtual benefit of having Italy and Dalmatia as OK provinces up to a date. In Mideast, Anatolia and N. Africa you already have cities so it's something you have to endure. But in Italy it doesn't make any difference: If I'm not interested in conquering foreign lands, I won't get OK provinces that one day will give me a sudden penalty on my Stability, and in the same way If I'm willing to get unstable lands I won't care if it's Italy or anywhere else because after a certain date it'll be the same.
In Sicily, Apulia and Calabria it makes a lil sense as it drags you to conquer these lands earlier (and the end of the OK state is later), as you may lose less points, but OTOH you'll have to be prepared when they become unstable. Verona, Tuscany and Dalmatia aren't eligible targets before the Venetian spawn to any byzantine player, only suicidal ones, that prefer to lose all their eastern borders to get North Italy just to lose it to Venetia upon spawn. I know it was told that not everyone go for UHVs, but going for Italy at this stage is going for your doom: There is not enough manpower and resurces to survive Sassanids (500 - ~650), Arabs (632), Bulgarians (680) AND conquer North Italy up to 810 AD. I can imagine someone losing Mideast, Egypt, Cyrene, Half Anatolia (Iconium, Sinope, Caesarea, Tarsus) and probably Hadrianopolis (if not Thessalonica) to have Ragusa and Florencia (and maybe Neapolis) just to lose the first two to Venetia just after 810 AD.
Well, I don't play on Viceroy so maybe in that difficulty it's possible (but I still doubt it).
And to new Players these changing provinces may be a series of traps, as each region has a different changing date and this is not written anywhere in-game.
IMO these OK provinces should remain OK for the rest of the game. In Egypt, Mideast and Anatolia I agree with the change, it's nice to scare the byz player exactly at the moment of chaos, and it's unavoidable. The byz AI probably won't benefit from this, because most of the times it just don't touch Italy, and its downfall is the Ottomans anyway, because only taking Constantinople they die, so it'll just make the human game more enjoyable.
So I'll continue my game, if nothing is going to change.
BTW, I still think there is no virtual benefit of having Italy and Dalmatia as OK provinces up to a date. In Mideast, Anatolia and N. Africa you already have cities so it's something you have to endure. But in Italy it doesn't make any difference: If I'm not interested in conquering foreign lands, I won't get OK provinces that one day will give me a sudden penalty on my Stability, and in the same way If I'm willing to get unstable lands I won't care if it's Italy or anywhere else because after a certain date it'll be the same.
In Sicily, Apulia and Calabria it makes a lil sense as it drags you to conquer these lands earlier (and the end of the OK state is later), as you may lose less points, but OTOH you'll have to be prepared when they become unstable. Verona, Tuscany and Dalmatia aren't eligible targets before the Venetian spawn to any byzantine player, only suicidal ones, that prefer to lose all their eastern borders to get North Italy just to lose it to Venetia upon spawn. I know it was told that not everyone go for UHVs, but going for Italy at this stage is going for your doom: There is not enough manpower and resurces to survive Sassanids (500 - ~650), Arabs (632), Bulgarians (680) AND conquer North Italy up to 810 AD. I can imagine someone losing Mideast, Egypt, Cyrene, Half Anatolia (Iconium, Sinope, Caesarea, Tarsus) and probably Hadrianopolis (if not Thessalonica) to have Ragusa and Florencia (and maybe Neapolis) just to lose the first two to Venetia just after 810 AD.
Well, I don't play on Viceroy so maybe in that difficulty it's possible (but I still doubt it).
And to new Players these changing provinces may be a series of traps, as each region has a different changing date and this is not written anywhere in-game.
IMO these OK provinces should remain OK for the rest of the game. In Egypt, Mideast and Anatolia I agree with the change, it's nice to scare the byz player exactly at the moment of chaos, and it's unavoidable. The byz AI probably won't benefit from this, because most of the times it just don't touch Italy, and its downfall is the Ottomans anyway, because only taking Constantinople they die, so it'll just make the human game more enjoyable.
AbsintheRed
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Update your Civ IV to BtS 3.19
The mod is only compatible with the latest Firaxis patch
AbsintheRed
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I see. I didn't realize that was the problem before
So I'll continue my game, if nothing is going to change.
BTW, I still think there is no virtual benefit of having Italy and Dalmatia as OK provinces up to a date. In Mideast, Anatolia and N. Africa you already have cities so it's something you have to endure. But in Italy it doesn't make any difference: If I'm not interested in conquering foreign lands, I won't get OK provinces that one day will give me a sudden penalty on my Stability, and in the same way If I'm willing to get unstable lands I won't care if it's Italy or anywhere else because after a certain date it'll be the same.
In Sicily, Apulia and Calabria it makes a lil sense as it drags you to conquer these lands earlier (and the end of the OK state is later), as you may lose less points, but OTOH you'll have to be prepared when they become unstable. Verona, Tuscany and Dalmatia aren't eligible targets before the Venetian spawn to any byzantine player, only suicidal ones, that prefer to lose all their eastern borders to get North Italy just to lose it to Venetia upon spawn. I know it was told that not everyone go for UHVs, but going for Italy at this stage is going for your doom: There is not enough manpower and resurces to survive Sassanids (500 - ~650), Arabs (632), Bulgarians (680) AND conquer North Italy up to 810 AD. I can imagine someone losing Mideast, Egypt, Cyrene, Half Anatolia (Iconium, Sinope, Caesarea, Tarsus) and probably Hadrianopolis (if not Thessalonica) to have Ragusa and Florencia (and maybe Neapolis) just to lose the first two to Venetia just after 810 AD.
Well, I don't play on Viceroy so maybe in that difficulty it's possible (but I still doubt it).
And to new Players these changing provinces may be a series of traps, as each region has a different changing date and this is not written anywhere in-game.
IMO these OK provinces should remain OK for the rest of the game. In Egypt, Mideast and Anatolia I agree with the change, it's nice to scare the byz player exactly at the moment of chaos, and it's unavoidable. The byz AI probably won't benefit from this, because most of the times it just don't touch Italy, and its downfall is the Ottomans anyway, because only taking Constantinople they die, so it'll just make the human game more enjoyable.
Why would I change back the provinces?
You don't have to expand there, but the historical possibility is given this way
Keeping them OK for all of the game also sounds bad to me
I would rather add a small army in Italy in the beginning of the game, for conquering a couple cities
And see the Byzantines struggling with keeping those territories - both militarily and stability-wise, as it was IRL
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Now that is a brilliant idea, it'll be like in the Mideast/Egypt where you'll surely have to face the consequences of changing provinces. But I still don't like the concept of stability changing provinces, not as it is now at least. I'm not sure, but I think only byzantium has this feature, and it's on 3 different places and the changes occurs in different dates for each region. Maybe write something in the Dawn text of them about being careful with distant territories changing stability, so at least the player expects some "out of nowhere" changing in stability.
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I agree though with the part that it's kinda out of nowhere
Currently there is nothing that informs you about this ingame
Wow, all of them? This is new right? I think I haven't being playing a lot lately. Still I think the Player has to be informed. A place in the civilopedia would be nice:
Provinces:
blablablablablabla...
And be careful, some provinces may change their stability status as the game goes, so always be mindful of your stability to not be caught unprepared.
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