omg no, there MUST be slave military.... unless every civ is getting some industrial supercity?
Maybe +100% military production or reduced anger from the
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omg no, there MUST be slave military.... unless every civ is getting some industrial supercity?
Maybe +100% military production or reduced anger from the
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Won't UP discussion better go in the Civilisations thread?
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Well thats certainly an idea, however the thing is there are commercial entities from European history that could be represented with the corporation model, and it be cool if at least some of them could get in.
On corporations in general for the mod, since the owner paying maintenance for most of them is rather silly in this context (except maybe the military orders), it might be an idea to include more unique disadvantages instead. Plus since spamming them to every city is ahistorical and somewhat silly, I propose (as seeming the easiest way code-wise) including building requirements for them.
Anyway onto some ideas, going for non-overlapping roles (and coming with different techs as much as possible:
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personally I'd like to see the Hanseatic League, the two banking families, the Kinghts Hospitaller and Teutonic, The Jesuits and Cistercian/Domicans in there. Or if the commerical ones aren't inlcuded maybe all 4 of the Military Orders, and all the Monks but the Franciscans.
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omg no, there MUST be slave military.... unless every civ is getting some industrial supercity?
Maybe +100% military production or reduced anger from the
what about slavery giving them the ability to draft units?
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Look, I just thought them up quickly. Heres one for the Kevian Rus:
The Power of River Trade:For every river tile adjacent to a city, the said city gets +1 trade routs.
I'm STILL trying to ghet one for france and germany. They have to do something about decentralized authority, but i cant think of what.
Question: For France, are there going to be a separate Carlongian France to Capetian one? If so, that makes my life easier.
The Power of River Trade:For every river tile adjacent to a city, the said city gets +1 trade routs.
I'm STILL trying to ghet one for france and germany. They have to do something about decentralized authority, but i cant think of what.
Question: For France, are there going to be a separate Carlongian France to Capetian one? If so, that makes my life easier.
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@Ajidica: Can we have proposed UHVs going in the Civ discussion thread with all the other UHV proposals please 
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Well thats certainly an idea, however the thing is there are commercial entities from European history that could be represented with the corporation model, and it be cool if at least some of them could get in.
On corporations in general for the mod, since the owner paying maintenance for most of them is rather silly in this context (except maybe the military orders), it might be an idea to include more unique disadvantages instead. Plus since spamming them to every city is ahistorical and somewhat silly, I propose (as seeming the easiest way code-wise) including building requirements for them.
Anyway onto some ideas, going for non-overlapping roles (and coming with different techs as much as possible:
Spoiler :
personally I'd like to see the Hanseatic League, the two banking families, the Kinghts Hospitaller and Teutonic, The Jesuits and Cistercian/Domicans in there. Or if the commerical ones aren't inlcuded maybe all 4 of the Military Orders, and all the Monks but the Franciscans.
Great list, again.
I think that building requirements are a good idea, as are different tech requirements (although we may want to change those around as we update and expand the tech tree). I had envisioned the military orders being exclusive/competing, and the monastic orders working in the same way; I have to admit that I hadn't thought of the banking houses (great idea!) The Hanseatic League was on my mental list as a great wonder, but this way makes much more sense - and I like the list of powers/negatives here.
If we're voting on seven, I vote for the Hanseatic League, Medici, Fuggers, Templars, Teutonic Order, Jesuits, and Dominicans (with a stability hit included for absolutist civics). If the opportunity to include more without drastically altering the source code exists.... well, that gets interesting. I'd vote against the inclusion of Krupps, Arkwright, and the Franciscans, but would be interested in seeing the others in the game.
On the inclusion of wool as a luxury resource: I seriously considered it while working on the map, but sheep as a food resource complicates things a bit. We do need a textile resource - what do you think of the inclusion of flax, with production areas concentrated primarily in marshy areas of England/Scotland and the Netherlands? We'd essentially be using it to represent wool and linen in one resource, and the historically important areas for textile production would retain their prominence.
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Possibly, though they do have different distributions - Wool in England, Castile, the odd one in france, italy and greece - the netherlands traded wool rather than making it. Whilst flax basiclly was cultivated everywhere, making it hard to choose placements for it (though a case could be made for France, and Poland-Belarus). So just call the luxury resource wool and have it follow the wool distribution plus it being seperate from sheep makes the most sense IMO
. Having flax as its own resource might make sense too (after all without Aluminum, oil, uranium, rice, and the 'Hit' wonders, space is being freed up).
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Okay. For different wonders and 'spaceship' victories, I suggest you look at European Middle Ages 0.74 by Head Serf. I have played it often, and it plays very well. They put in alot of time testing and coming up with ideas, so it may be worthwhile to look there. If you dont know where to look, scroll down the project and mod development page.
