[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[eso12por8]

I need to have my bad sport moment because I am so enamored with Portugal & I need to voice my disappointment the devs would include every country touched by Portugal except Portugal.

What's up with the apathetic appreciation of Portugal?
Brazil wouldn't exist without Portugal. (It would be something completely different)
Britain got its African possessions & India from Portugal.
Holland got control of Indonesia from Portugal.
Knowing this, I'm going to suspect we may see Mali & a sultanate of East Africa considering the pattern. I'm totally okay with having a much needed subsaharan civ, just a bigger snub to Portugal. As the first "global" superpower it's pretty shocking Portugal gets kicked back as often as it does.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I need to have my bad sport moment because I am so enamored with Portugal & I need to voice my disappointment the devs would include every country touched by Portugal except Portugal.

What's up with the apathetic appreciation of Portugal?
Brazil wouldn't exist without Portugal. (It would be something completely different)
Britain got its African possessions & India from Portugal.
Holland got control of Indonesia from Portugal.
Knowing this, I'm going to suspect we may see Mali & a sultanate of East Africa considering the pattern. I'm totally okay with having a much needed subsaharan civ, just a bigger snub to Portugal. As the first "global" superpower it's pretty shocking Portugal gets kicked back as often as it does.

They have to hold something back for the next expansion.

 

[Zaarin]

Which R&F leader has the best design so far?

Chandragupta and Poundmaker are tied for me.

Poundmaker, without question.

 

[God of Kings]

Even without the Hudson's Bay point blanket (unmodified or tailored into a jacket), Poundmaker looks very handsome.

 

[Morningcalm]

Poundmaker looks younger than in the pictures, but there's an undeniable resemblance, and he's not some annoying caricature like plasticine Pedro II, so I approve. Leaders more in the animation style of Cyrus are always welcome.

 

[God of Kings]

Poundmaker looks younger than in the pictures, but there's an undeniable resemblance, and he's not some annoying caricature like plasticine Pedro II, so I approve. Leaders more in the animation style of Cyrus are always welcome.

If there were a rematch for the Leader Depiction Elimination Game, Poundmaker would be among the top five, along with Chandragupta and Cyrus.

It's very hard to find a leader who looks worse than Alexander.

 

[Zaarin]

If there were a rematch for the Leader Depiction Elimination Game, Poundmaker would be among the top five, along with Chandragupta and Cyrus.

It's very hard to find a leader who looks worse than Alexander.

Gandhi and Alexander, also known as Troll Face and Melted Ken Doll, are certainly in a class all their own.

 

[kingchris20]

Did anyone realize the quote for Early Empire seems to foretell the releasing of "Rise and Fall"

Civics Completed
Early Empire

"Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future, too." - Marcus Aurelius

 

[eso12por8]

They have to hold something back for the next expansion.

When they introduced the new timeline feature an example of a historical moment is being the first to sail around the world.. along with all the other clues.. I hope they make me happy with Lydia. They need to make it up to me somehow. They need to make feitorias incredible. I want an Açores or an Algarve natural wonder and/or Palácio da Pena wonder.

I'm still incredibly disappointed. Straight up trolling lol.. ugh. Portugal always makes third ring if there is one. It'd have to focus on the points missed in the trailer. The Soviet-era civ hasn't happened yet either. So economics i.e. trade, centers of wealth & likely culture, (perhaps sanitation?), socialism v. capitalism would be a theme. Perhaps independent cities adopt their own government structure?

 

[God of Kings]

Did anyone realize the quote for Early Empire seems to foretell the releasing of "Rise and Fall"

Civics Completed
Early Empire

"Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future, too." - Marcus Aurelius

It's that or Garrison Kellior's Roman Empire collapsed due to air conditioning quote.

 

[WillowBrook]

When they introduced the new timeline feature an example of a historical moment is being the first to sail around the world.. along with all the other clues.. I hope they make me happy with Lydia. They need to make it up to me somehow. They need to make feitorias incredible. I want an Açores or an Algarve natural wonder and/or Palácio da Pena wonder.

I'm still incredibly disappointed. Straight up trolling lol.. ugh. Portugal always makes third ring if there is one. It'd have to focus on the points missed in the trailer. The Soviet-era civ hasn't happened yet either. So economics i.e. trade, centers of wealth & likely culture, (perhaps sanitation?), socialism v. capitalism would be a theme. Perhaps independent cities adopt their own government structure?

I predict that Portugal, Maya, and Byzantine empire will anchor the second expansion (assuming we get Ottoman empire and Inca in the first).

But I don't begrudge you mourning their delay - they are very worthy of earlier inclusion.

 

[God of Kings]

Gandhi and Alexander, also known as Troll Face and Melted Ken Doll, are certainly in a class all their own.

At least India has a handsome alt-leader.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I predict that Portugal, Maya, and Byzantine empire will anchor the second expansion (assuming we get Ottoman empire and Inca in the first).

They may also have the good company of Carthage or some variation of the Celts.

 

[God of Kings]

They may also have the good company of Carthage or some variation of the Celts.

...and perhaps Canada as a foil to the Cree and to the United States as well.

 

[bite]

Assuming for a moment the the red mountain glimpsed in the Cree first look is a natural wonder and not a new terrain feature, we have now seen all the natural wonders in R&F even if we don't know official what three of them are

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Assuming for a moment the the red mountain glimpsed in the Cree first look is a natural wonder and not a new terrain feature, we have now seen all the natural wonders in R&F even if we don't know official what three of them are

Firaxis is into some real avant garde indie wonders right now. You probably haven't heard of them.

 

[bite]

Firaxis is into some real avant garde indie wonders right now. You probably haven't heard of them.

I was into them before they sold out to become mainstream

 

[God of Kings]

Firaxis is into some real avant garde indie wonders right now. You probably haven't heard of them.

I was into them before they sold out to become mainstream

All those new wonders end up becoming too crowded. Before Civ VI, they were not as crowded.

As the late Yogi Berra once said, "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

 

[Zaarin]

Firaxis is into some real avant garde indie wonders right now. You probably haven't heard of them.

I was into them before they sold out to become mainstream

Meh, I only use Fair Trade, certified organic, gluten free, vegan, paleo, ethically-sourced, bespoke wonders.

 

[Guatenadian]

Meh, I only use Fair Trade, certified organic, gluten free, vegan, paleo, ethnically-sourced, bespoke wonders.

I wanted the Richat Structure in the game before it was cool.