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[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread
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SammyKhalifa
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Wow, putting them all together really adds a little perspective
TomKQT
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Yea, sure. So far I've done it only twice and just for fun. But what to do? Of course I dont have to capture the city by force and get the promotions, but the city will flip to me anyway and I will refuse it, because I dont want it. The endless loop will stillbbe there...Yes, but you are the one locked into that endless loop.
If you enjoy that kind of grind, fine.
Ferocitus
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Just like the Sgt Peppers cover, but with murderous psychos.
Dang, I wish I could get a full res image of that to serve as a desktop wallpaper!
(If it CAN be done, please provide clues ... 'cause I'm clueless).
Katakanja
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Right click the image in the tweet -> view image -> save image as. That will give you the banner in the best possible resolution, but I don't know if that will look any good once blown up to fit whatever resolution your desktop is actually running at.
Thanx for the refresher. The resolution is satisfactory (just a little pixelization).
Really want to try for a Religious victory since it's the only one I've never had (and largely ignored). I've stuck to mostly the R&F Civ's but not married to that idea so what civ would you recommend? Russia for the Lavra? Arabia? Tamar seems weak but honestly I'm not really sure. Was going to almost pick the Dutch just because I like them despite no religious bonuses
Russia, Poland, Arabia, Gandhi's India, Khmer, Spain. I wouldn't reccomend trying Kongo for obvious reason
Russia and Arabia are good for getting religion. Same for Japan with the half priced holy sites.
IIRC Spain's LUA also applies to religious units, making them good for religious victory non-withstanding getting a religion (cause you'll always be fighting a different religion for religious units - warning this also applies to Defender of the Faith, making any AI that takes it a pita to beat in religious combat). Poland is good if you want a more militaristic victory. Khmer + the reliquaries belief can get some crazy faith output, though I actually ended up with a cultural victory instead of a religious one with that approach.
Disgustipated
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Sometimes I worry so much about getting into a golden age. And it causes me stress.
I know I shouldn't stress so much about achieving a normal or golden age, but I do worry about it. I still like the mechanic, but I just don't like the worry part of it. I find myself building Taj Mahal every game just to help alleviate some of that stress. I'm not sure how viable Taj Mahal is at higher levels, but I've been able to build it so far.The mechanic reminds me of games with time limits, I'm looking at you Xcom2. And I don't care for time limits.
SammyKhalifa
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I don't mind getting into it or not, but I've fallen like two points short a few times. It just seems like a giant waste. I need better planning--to either hurry up with some new milestone, or to hold back a bit until the age changes.Sometimes I worry so much about getting into a golden age. And it causes me stress.
The mechanic reminds me of games with time limits, I'm looking at you Xcom2. And I don't care for time limits.
Disgustipated
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Of course I also stress about all the excess points I get after I already crossed the threshold for golden age. I hate wasting all those points, and I'm pretty sure they don't carry over. But I won't stop progress on my infrastructure trying to time things out, I hate that kind of micromanagement. And yes, I stress about a lot of things apparently. Still, Taj Mahal is still great to not have to worry so much about achieving normal ages, even if you have a lot of excess points.
I hate wasting all those points, and I'm pretty sure they don't carry over. But I won't stop progress on my infrastructure trying to time things out, I hate that kind of micromanagement. And yes, I stress about a lot of things apparently. Still, Taj Mahal is still great to not have to worry so much about achieving normal ages, even if you have a lot of excess points.
TomKQT
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I am still in my first game and besides the normal ancient era I've had 4 golden ages, nothing else. Playing as Zulu, so no special bonuses for ages. And especially the last golden age was with a huuuuuuge overflow of era points.
Is this normal? Is it so easy?
Is this normal? Is it so easy?
Magil
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I do not know, but I have had a similar experience. I'm sure my preference for playing on Epic speed with a tech/civic-slowdown mod influences it to some degree.
I’ve played 2-3 games now and a bunch of half play then restart games and I’ve yet to be in a dark age, no matter what difficulty (including deity). I know others have but it seems like I just get normal age without even trying. I’d like to experience a dark age to see it but it seems too easy to get normal. I’m playing as Georgia so a dark age would be great to have a possible heroic age and really use the bonus
Disgustipated
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Ha, normally I don't like too much golden age excess points, but I'm kind of proud of this one. This shows how imbalanced warmongering is for getting golden age points. Granted, I did a Looot of warmongering with the Zulu. I needed 108 to get a golden age, I got 173. picture below in spoiler tags. edit: 176 after pressing end turn and meeting Indonesia and getting 2 points from Nationalism.
I'm thinking Firaxis needs to give peaceful players a little something for getting golden ages to help balance this out.
I'm thinking Firaxis needs to give peaceful players a little something for getting golden ages to help balance this out.
Spoiler :
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Ha, normally I don't like too much golden age excess points, but I'm kind of proud of this one. This shows how imbalanced warmongering is for getting golden age points. Granted, I did a Looot of warmongering with the Zulu. I needed 108 to get a golden age, I got 173. picture below in spoiler tags
I'm thinking Firaxis needs to give peaceful players a little something for getting golden ages to help balance this out.
Spoiler :
I overshot the golden age threshold by about that much a couple of times playing peaceful. Georgia is a really good Civ for that.
Craig_Sutter
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I found a good dedicationfor peaceful players in normal age was getting points for building industrial era buildings... made getting the next golden age very easy...
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