[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[WillowBrook]

It's time to post teasers not just on lowercase sixth letters and cyan canaries.

Why not the white alien or here in the good old CFC, which predates all of those three?

Well, this forum is full of people who are already fanatics, not much chance of reaching new customers here...

 

[kryat]

I wouldn't be surprised if it gives some benefit to snow tiles, but that can't be the primary reason people would build it - it just wouldn't be worth it. Your guesses are as good as mine as to what that snow benefit might be. But I predict a benefit to snow tiles will not be the only thing the wonder gives.

Could be. Is this the last wonder available to be built on the tech tree? You’re right that this does have to be something game changing. As I’ve been thinking about it, I think it has to be something that so lopsidedly changes the value of snow tiles that humans see an incentive to put build cities in weird places just to get this wonder. That seems more in line with what Firaxis is prone to do. It could also be something that affects all snow empire-wide, like what the Eifel Tower does for appeal.

Another possibility: Snow is just the build requirement, and building it lets your city perform a special project called “Arctic Research” that doubles your current empire-wide output of GS and GE points, and provides +20% empire wide production and science while active.

 

[bite]

OK I am about to go to sleep, so as is tradition, the big news item/spoiler can drop now

 

[WillowBrook]

Could be. Is this the last wonder available to be built on the tech tree? You’re right that this does have to be something game changing. As I’ve been thinking about it, I think it has to be something that so lopsidedly changes the value of snow tiles that humans see an incentive to put build cities in weird places just to get this wonder. That seems more in line with what Firaxis is prone to do. It could also be something that affects all snow empire-wide, like what the Eifel Tower does for appeal.

Another possibility: Snow is just the build requirement, and building it lets your city perform a special project called “Arctic Research” that doubles your current empire-wide output of GS and GE points, and provides +20% empire wide production and science while active.

It's a late-game civic (I forget which one - they figured it out either in the screenshot thread or the Dec 13 livestream thread).

I fully expect snow to be a build requirement. The GS and GE doubling project idea is interesting - I don't think we have any wonder benefit like that yet.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

It's a late-game civic (I forget which one - they figured it out either in the screenshot thread or the Dec 13 livestream thread).

I fully expect snow to be a build requirement. The GS and GE doubling project idea is interesting - I don't think we have any wonder benefit like that yet.

I believe it was cold war. It would be around the same time as the Maracanã. It not being a late game science wonder would be mind boggling.

 

[God of Kings]

OK I am about to go to sleep, so as is tradition, the big news item/spoiler can drop now

...and it dropped.

No Mongolian Death Worms though.

 

[BenZL43]

Quick! Anybody that have access to Mongolian TV, please watch it maybe we will get a better hint lol

 

[God of Kings]

I'm so disappointed that the teaser doesn't depict those cute worms.

 

[Kimiimaro]

I'm so disappointed that the teaser doesn't depict those cute worms.

I still hope to see a cute lion with two tails once

 

[God of Kings]

I still hope to see a cute lion with two tails once

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the Ogopogo, the Loch Ness Monster, and other cryptids.

 

[brandonnj84]

Hi all, my apologies if this has been posted, but I haven't seen it talked about or posted in the features thread. There's some very different government effects for Most Tier 2 and 3 Governments. At 36 minutes into the dev livestream:

Communism: + 0.4 Prod per citizen in cities with governors
Democracy: +2 prod +1 Housing per district
Fascism: War weariness reduced by 15%
Merchant Republic: +15% toward districts
Theocracy: No faith buying? (Can't read the whole tip)

Have a nice day.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the Ogopogo, the Loch Ness Monster, and other cryptids.

http://cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Mali

Didn't know this existed until now. Better show this soon.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

The frankenstein build updated, which probably means their closed beta testing is imminent.

 

[God of Kings]

The frankenstein build updated, which probably means their closed beta testing is imminent.

That is great. We could see quill18 and the like do a preview Let's Play of R&F.

 

[darkace77450]

I know why they did it. I just don't like it. Then again, I don't think I've ever had more than eleven traders, and that's with Merchant Republic, so...I'm not the target audience for this change.

Same. You and I are collateral damage on this one, I'm afraid.

 

[God of Kings]

Same. You and I are collateral damage on this one, I'm afraid.

It's to make up for increased micromanagement in the late game.

 

[darkace77450]

So we've got teasers on Mondays, Civ First Looks on Tuesdays, and wonders on Fridays. Does this mean deep dive videos will be shown on Wednesdays or Thursdays? Or will the be folded into the streams?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

So we've got teasers on Mondays, Civ First Looks on Tuesdays, and wonders on Fridays. Does this mean deep dive videos will be shown on Wednesdays or Thursdays? Or will the be folded into the streams?

Wednesdays they review the Monday hints and have Livestreams.

 

[darkace77450]

Wednesdays they review the Monday hints and have Livestreams.

Ah, I didn't know those were officially a weekly thing. Thanks.

 

[DeutschDachs]

Can conform that Mongol Monday is not a thing atm

Really? I could have sworn the Bangles wrote a song about it...

It's just another Mongol Monday
I wish it was Kurultai
Cause that's my fun day
My "I don't have to run" day
It's just another Mongol Monday