[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

DWilson said:
Thoughts on possible Zulu inclusion?

For me personally, despite them being a mainstay, I think they're less deserving than either Georgia or Canada (neither of which I think should be included at this point in time, but have a fair shot). It seems apparent that, as a civilization, they're probably the least deserving to have achieved entry in the series history (so long as one is okay with a cultural blob civ that represents a group, rather than a distinct entity, such as Polynesia, Native Americans (atrocious depiction, but the cultures that it was meant to represent were more worthy), the Celts, etc.). They've been fun to play as, but we have a lot of similar play-style groups, and Africa (including southern Africa alone) seems like it has more to offer.
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They aren't something I really wish. I don't really care about them, I only think that there are many better Civs.

Btw. the Huns are still worse :P
 
DWilson said:
Thoughts on possible Zulu inclusion?

For me personally, despite them being a mainstay, I think they're less deserving than either Georgia or Canada (neither of which I think should be included at this point in time, but have a fair shot). It seems apparent that, as a civilization, they're probably the least deserving to have achieved entry in the series history (so long as one is okay with a cultural blob civ that represents a group, rather than a distinct entity, such as Polynesia, Native Americans (atrocious depiction, but the cultures that it was meant to represent were more worthy), the Celts, etc.). They've been fun to play as, but we have a lot of similar play-style groups, and Africa (including southern Africa alone) seems like it has more to offer.
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They will eventually make it in. We have one more Civ that we know will get a unique district. The Zulu at this point will most likely get a unique Encampment, but I don't see that happening now especially since the Ottomans will most likely be coming with a unique Commercial Hub (wishful thinking).
 
DWilson said:
Thoughts on possible Zulu inclusion?

For me personally, despite them being a mainstay, I think they're less deserving than either Georgia or Canada (neither of which I think should be included at this point in time, but have a fair shot). It seems apparent that, as a civilization, they're probably the least deserving to have achieved entry in the series history (so long as one is okay with a cultural blob civ that represents a group, rather than a distinct entity, such as Polynesia, Native Americans (atrocious depiction, but the cultures that it was meant to represent were more worthy), the Celts, etc.). They've been fun to play as, but we have a lot of similar play-style groups, and Africa (including southern Africa alone) seems like it has more to offer.
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I had them on my list of guesses for this XP, but between the Mongols and Chandragupta, warmongering seems to be covered for now. I expect they'll show up eventually, though, given that they've always been in the series.
 
Italy could have a unique Government Plaza and the Ottomans could have a unique Commercial Hub. Neither are considered complete warmongers, since we got much of the complete warmongers revealed.
 
It's hard to imagine the Zulu as anything other than warmongers because that's the role they've always played in Civ. For that reason I don't expect to see them in the same expansion as the Mongols.
 
God of Kings said:
Seondeok's trade delegation may offer kimchi.

Genghis Khan's trade delegation may offer yak wool and fermented mare's milk.

Chandragupta's trade delegation may offer rare gemstones.

Poundmaker's trade delegation may offer beaver pelts, buffalo hide, moccasins, and/or pemmican.
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I would be mildly annoyed if it were only kimchi for Korea - too stereotypical. But I don't have any better suggestions of the top of my head (I don't even know what present-day dishes would have even been around in her day)
 
God of Kings said:
Seondeok's trade delegation may offer kimchi.

Genghis Khan's trade delegation may offer yak wool and fermented mare's milk.

Chandragupta's trade delegation may offer rare gemstones.

Poundmaker's trade delegation may offer beaver pelts, buffalo hide, moccasins, and/or pemmican.
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None for Wilhelmina?
 
Looks like no livestream today, I'm disappointed. :(

Hopefully, there's a wonder video on Friday.
 
The next livestream is probably next Wednesday, featuring the Cree, Chandragupta's India, and maybe the next Civ to be revealed.
 
Cree are definitely a slam dunk for the next live stream. The devs still have to show off their fancy new alliance mechanic.
 
agonistes said:
That's not even funny. I'm seriously curious about this string of Civ VI related articles. Who's picking them?
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Well the day before, the picture was an Italian scudo.:)
 
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